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POSSIBLE SAVANNAH SHAKE-UP TO HELP JACKSONVILLE

Wat would be the benefit for either of the Savannah stations to agree to any of the changes discussed here? If I were the CEO of either one, it would take a rule-making decision from the FCC, which would be strenuously opposed by my company. If nothing else, I would attempt to keep the issue bottled up in the process for as long as possible so that Renda would find their efforts too costly to pursue.
 
Witchlover said:
Wat would be the benefit for either of the Savannah stations to agree to any of the changes discussed here? If I were the CEO of either one, it would take a rule-making decision from the FCC, which would be strenuously opposed by my company. If nothing else, I would attempt to keep the issue bottled up in the process for as long as possible so that Renda would find their efforts too costly to pursue.

There is an FCC rule that allows for a licensee to petition to have another station involunatrily move to another frequency if certain conditions are present. In theory, those conditions are met under the Renda propsal; however, Clear Channel and Cumulus is also well armed in defense of any such forced moved.
 
Would Renda have even bothered with this application without some implication from CC and Cumulus that they were willing to play ball? i.e. CC or Cumulus would wind up owning 94.1 in Jax in the end.
 
poledo said:
Would Renda have even bothered with this application without some implication from CC and Cumulus that they were willing to play ball? i.e. CC or Cumulus would wind up owning 94.1 in Jax in the end.

Under that scenario all entities are in agreement and an involuntary petition would not be necessary as the entire proposal is voluntary. This application and PRM is an involuntary request from Renda.
 
jmtillery said:
poledo said:
Would Renda have even bothered with this application without some implication from CC and Cumulus that they were willing to play ball? i.e. CC or Cumulus would wind up owning 94.1 in Jax in the end.

Under that scenario all entities are in agreement and an involuntary petition would not be necessary as the entire proposal is voluntary. This application and PRM is an involuntary request from Renda.

Well, if Cumulus was willing to take a minor signal upgrade in SAV in exchange for moving to 94.1 then CC gets first option to purchase 94.1 in JAX... It seems like a lot of these upgrades/moves take place under the ownership of smaller companies before a big fish shows up in the picture.

Dunno. I just really despise situations where a government agency can tell you it's in others better interest for someone to involuntarily do something. I had to do a real estate exchange once against my will. The lawyers and city told me they were prepared to go through imminent domain proceedings if I wouldn't cooperate. I was prepared to show they had multiple other options including at least one interested seller that only wanted 10x market value for his land. The exchange offered was in my favor (about 3x market value) but the land I gave up was the last possession of my father's that I still owned. It really hurt and I'll never forgive the people involved. Emotions don't have a place in business. I was ready to fight until I had exhausted my resources but was talked down off the ledge by "my people".
 
acheron82 said:
So are we still hearing rumors that the formats of 95.5 and 94.1 will switch? Also, I see all this "if they downgrade a signal" talk for an upgrade in Jacksonville but why not move towers further northwest of Savannah so that Jacksonville is not impacted. Seems a waste that all the 100k stations have half their signal over open waters over the Atlantic anyway. Why not set up these towers in Statesboro (away from the coast) while still having the main 60db signal through the heart of Savannah.

Most Savannah FM's are side mounted on one of four TV towers to give them 1000+ ft in height without buying the steel. I can't see a physical move of facilities happening. Also, who says 94 & 95 have to change ownership and formats?

G
 
I guess I'm really confused on what changes pertaining to Savannah would be likely. Reading at the beginning of this threat, suggestion was that formats would switch on 95 and 94. I guess I'm a little confused.

Regarding all out tower moves, I understand your point about the expensive nature of the move and I guess it would NOT be a good idea but I believe the 70 db contour would cover a tower is located between Statesboro and Fort Stewart. I believe the public radio station would be a good example. Again though, I understand that would be expensive.
 
Could Renda's petition be the response to some failed negotiations or rejected proposal? Reading the past day's postings after I asked my question, it occurs to me that filing a PRM, without first asking to see whether affected parties would be willing to come to an accord privately, would generate ill will unnecessarily.
 
Witchlover said:
Could Renda's petition be the response to some failed negotiations or rejected proposal? Reading the past day's postings after I asked my question, it occurs to me that filing a PRM, without first asking to see whether affected parties would be willing to come to an accord privately, would generate ill will unnecessarily.

That's what I was trying to suggest in my last post. CC or Cumulus should already be on board with this and the application was only filed to put a little pressure on the other... Trying to send a message that they COULD do this without reasonable cooperation. That's the only way this proposal makes any sense to me.
 
Neither CC or Cumulus were contacted before the app was filed.
 
Witchlover said:
rcombs said:
Neither CC or Cumulus were contacted before the app was filed.

Interesting. Thank you, Mr. Combs.

Yes, very interesting indeed. Do the folks at Renda need a lesson in manners or the proper way to conduct business?. I would assume they screwed themselves by doing business this way. You can't beat both the 700 and 800 pound gorillas of the radio industry.
 
IMHO: Renda filed this so they can negotiate with CC an Cumulus and have a little leverage. The "real" goal might not even be in this market. Renda might want:

a deal on a Volt or Aloha station(s),

increase the value of this station to sell it or whole company split between CC or Cumulus,

make signal improvements in another market.
 
Still on the table?

Was on the FCC site reviewing a filing by WRWN to move, boost signal & height for their HD2 translator on 93.5. On the paperwork, it makes mention of adjacent stations & possible interference. One listed was 95.5 WIXV. But...the technical specs used to make the case for the translator move were dependent on....the pending move of I-95 to 94.1. Looky here:

https://licensing.fcc.gov/cdbs/CDBS...?appn=101633011&qnum=5120&copynum=1&exhcnum=1

So....is the Jax Renda deal still on the table?

G
 
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