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WGVU 1480 gets out well with 2000 watts nondirectional. WGVS 850? That's so directional, and I don't see an STA filed recently. What kind of RCVR and ANT were you using? I have only heard it in the Straits Area for any distance. Scandinavia is more likely than Arizona.
 
bulwnkl said:
The MI & MN receptions were in SE Phoenix.

The KSL & KLO daytime reception was in the car (not with the HDR-18, obviously) traveling west along I-10 across and out of Phoenix.
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Oh nice, so you are in my neck of the woods! KSL and KLO get out very well from Salt Lake City down to Phoenix. I consistently get an HD radio lock of KSL in my car and at home in Gilbert. KTNN AM 660 actually can be picked up with a very good sensitive radio during the day in Phoenix via ground wave all the way from Window Rock since it has a massive 50,000 watt non-directional daytime signal. Same with KAZM 780 AM from Sedona even though that’s only a 5,000 watt station during the day. I posted this elsewhere on this forum, but I was picking up WCCO consistently at night back in October here in Phoenix fighting it out with KDRI down in a Tucson when they forgot to power down their massive 50,000 watt signal at night. Not a lot of competition on that frequency since KLAA throws a lot of their signal away from us to protect WCCO.
 
I thought it was pretty lucky & cool to get WGVS and even WCCO here. :) Those were coming in on my Sangean HDR-18 table radio on my desk at work (I get there quite early). I have a Terk Tower indoor antenna hooked up to both the AM and FM connections, but I don't know whether or how much the AM side helps. I know that the built-in ferrite bar in the HDR-18 is decent-sized, and I've read that for whatever reason attaching an external AM antenna lead does not disconnect the internal bar antenna. I was able to move and change some things in and near my office recently to get rid of a lot of interference where that radio is, so the AM band is now useful.

Asugeorge1, I can sometimes get KSL to lock HD on my portable Sangean (HDR-16) at home, but the antenna in that one is smaller and I have quite a bit of interference inside the house, so I can only get it sometimes. You're right that I can get KTNN (660 AM) on the table radio at work during the day sometimes, but normally it's quite fuzzy if it's there for me. The radio in my car is very good, so I could try for lots of things with it if only I wasn't driving. (-:

In the end, no doubt it was just good luck, but to me it was neat!
 
Ordered a used Sony CF-450 on eBay. It came today. I turned it on, and amazingly, I heard a station I had never heard before in the first 10 minutes. It was at almost FCC Sunset itime in Western New York. I heard 10 kW Daytime (it's 450 watts Nighttime) WABH 1380 Bath, NY, with a strong lobe to the WSW. It's over 2000 mV/m @ 1 km toward SE Michigan. The ID was clear and unambiguous. I have never heard the station before.

I have an old CF-450 but it needs work. It was one of my first radios I actually owned, not just household radios that I wore out dial cords on, and had to learn to fix. It had good sensitivity on AM BC and phenomenal FM BC sensitivity for a portable. The cassette recorder made it possible to quickly record DX. In Western Michigan, I heard and recorded KFI 640 and KNBR 680 barefoot back in the late 1970s!
 
I'm going to give y'all a little tip to find FCC sunrise/sunset time for a specific station you're interested in

https://transition.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?list=0&facid=59035

That link takes you to KMTI 650 Manti, UT.

See the numbers at the end? thats the stations facility id number.

The fcc's own website can be a bit slow, cumbersome and hard to figure out for a newbie.

Save that link above.

now, lets say you want the facility ID number for WABH 1380 Bath NY. go to www.fccinfo.com type in wabh and hit search, the facility id will be on the right... change out that facility id with the one in the link above.


In the daytime record of the fcc's website look for " Approximate Sunrise & Sunset Times at the transmitter site: Mountain time zone" and then make sure you have the right time, standard or daylight selected

The FCC website can be a little slow and clunky to load and if youre having a good night of DXing, just keep one stations fcc am query results pulled up like KMTI's above and just change out the number

Is it the best way? no, but its the quickest, i think
 
A couple of days ago, while surfing the dial around 4pm EST (roughly one hour before sunset), I heard the following AM stations on seek from Manistee, MI:
620 WTMJ Milwaukee, WI (the strongest AM signal by day)
640 WMFN Peotone, IL
670 WSCR Chicago, IL
720 WGN Chicago, IL
840 WHAS Louisville, KY
860 CJBC Toronto, ON
And that's it! There's only one AM within 40 miles, and it's a graveyarder (1450 WKLA) that doesn't make it to Manistee (however, its FM translator on 92.7 does make it in fairly often).

Also, 1040 WHO was listenable but not strong enough to trip the seek.
 
ftballfan said:
A couple of days ago, while surfing the dial around 4pm EST (roughly one hour before sunset), I heard the following AM stations on seek from Manistee, MI:
620 WTMJ Milwaukee, WI (the strongest AM signal by day)
640 WMFN Peotone, IL
670 WSCR Chicago, IL
720 WGN Chicago, IL
840 WHAS Louisville, KY
860 CJBC Toronto, ON
And that's it! There's only one AM within 40 miles, and it's a graveyarder (1450 WKLA) that doesn't make it to Manistee (however, its FM translator on 92.7 does make it in fairly often).

Also, 1040 WHO was listenable but not strong enough to trip the seek.
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I'm surprised that WBBM didn't make it.
 
With a good radio, you should also be able to hear WIND 560, WBBM 780, WCPT 820, WLS 890, WOKY 920, and WMVP 1000. I heard all of these, and many more, with a vertical wire and one transistor preamp, inland 50 miles, over the lake and then sand. Muskegon was very weak though, and Grand Rapids was also, across all sand.
 
Schroedingers Cat said:
With a good radio, you should also be able to hear WIND 560, WBBM 780, WCPT 820, WLS 890, WOKY 920, and WMVP 1000. I heard all of these, and many more, with a vertical wire and one transistor preamp, inland 50 miles, over the lake and then sand. Muskegon was very weak though, and Grand Rapids was also, across all sand.
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Yes I would think that WIND would also be strong enough there.
 
Schroedingers Cat said:
With a good radio, you should also be able to hear WIND 560, WBBM 780, WCPT 820, WLS 890, WOKY 920, and WMVP 1000. I heard all of these, and many more, with a vertical wire and one transistor preamp, inland 50 miles, over the lake and then sand. Muskegon was very weak though, and Grand Rapids was also, across all sand.
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It's likely most (if not all) of them would have been there if I had just scrolled through the dial and not just go through the ones strong enough to stop the seek
 
DXBob said:
Yes! WSCR is a regular cold day, winter daytime skywave regular here in Overland Park as is WBBM. Distance is actually 406 miles...

Bob
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I wonder if a trace of the ground wave could be heard midday in summer on a sensitive receiver.

Some of the best ground conductivity is in that region of the country.
 
hawaiigar said:
I wonder if a trace of the ground wave could be heard midday in summer on a sensitive receiver.

Some of the best ground conductivity is in that region of the country.
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I used to get into Kansas City on a fairly regular basis on my biz trips, which often included other stops along I-35. The Kansas City 710 (ex WHB) was typically good daytime from Northwest Arkansas to the Minnesota state line....with 10,000 watts. KFEQ (680/10kw) and WDAF (610/5kw) were comparable.
 


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