It's great to see the american stations make a come back! Here's to a great '08!
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Thunderlips said:
If they are licensed by the FCC, they are all American stations.
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mrtexmex2007
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I'm talking about the stations that cater to people who speak english. English is the official language here....not spanish.
Thunderlips said:
The United States has no official language.
Non-English media existed here since before 1776.
If you want to get picky, every station from Puntarenas, Chile to Alaska is "American" as all are in either north or South America.
The "known" language for the United States of America is english, I believe all of our countries founding documents where written in oh gosh what language was it?? Oh yeah FREAKING ENGLISH! VIVA LA RAZA PUTO!
I see no reason for Vulgarity here. The Word "Puto" is the spanish equivalent to (correct me if I'm wrong, my "espanol" is "no muy bueno" ;D) a male "concubine". The FCC cannot mandate stations to cater in certain languages. The only thing that is mandated in English on all stations is the Call Letters.
If you also really want to make an argument for "American" stations, you would also have to include Spanish as one of its languages since Conjunto/Spanish Polka (a sub genre of Tejano) and Tejano itself were born in the state of Texas. They are American Formats and (If I am not mistaking) it has no Mexican influence. There are still a couple of Tejano stations around the state and only two (counted them myself) Conjunto stations left, but they are still just as American as Texas Country.
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mrtexmex2007
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The Word puto stands for male hooker. And there is no oficial language for the United States!!!
oldjohnny said:
Not even that. In Puerto Rico, IDs in, at a station's option, English or Spanish have been permitted for at least 70 years. And the FCC allows US Spanish language stations to ID en Spanish, and many do.
Salsa is also an American creation, being a fusion of jazz and Afro-Antillian music that came out of New York and Puerto Rico... both part of the US last I checked! And reggaetón, while technically born in Panamá, was bred in Puerto Rico for two decades before it went international.
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van hespen
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FYI- When our founding forefathers voted to determine the official language for this newly founded country English only won by one vote. What language took second place?
French? Spanish? Italian? Portuguese?
It was German. We almost became a German speaking country.
Ponder this ----
Can you imagine all the soggy, spit splattered microphones with jocks speaking German? Yuk!
French? Spanish? Italian? Portuguese?
It was German. We almost became a German speaking country.
Ponder this ----
Can you imagine all the soggy, spit splattered microphones with jocks speaking German? Yuk!
van hespen said:
That is pure urban legend. There was no such vote, and there is no official language and German was not considered for the writing of the Constitution.
David, good answers...just perusing the dial in Houston listening to the brokered time stations here running programs in, let's see, Farsi, Vietnamese, multi-Indian dialects, and OMG, English...how should we define these in terms of "American?" (e.g. KXYZ which is 50% English and the rest various)....
Harold Levine, Controller, Latin America Broadcasting, Inc., sitting here dealing with all these FCC renewal forms, EEOC reports and the like for our 5 station Hispanic TV group with funky call letters like KISA, KVPA, KJJM, KVAT and KCVH....
Harold Levine, Controller, Latin America Broadcasting, Inc., sitting here dealing with all these FCC renewal forms, EEOC reports and the like for our 5 station Hispanic TV group with funky call letters like KISA, KVPA, KJJM, KVAT and KCVH....
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van hespen
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David,
Gosh, my 6th grade german teacher told me that story and I believed her for, let me count the years.....
True story - A hispancic guy was trying to hit on me tonight at a laundromat. Our washing machine died, but I digress. Anyway, he spoke zero English and I speak zero Spanish. The one thing I could understand was "numbre" with his hand held up to his ear and "beautiful". First, I think the guy must have been nuts. I am a middle age mom and am not proud to say I have gained a few lbs.
Second......
Did he really think we would be able to communicate on a phone if we had no success communicating in a laundromat? If I wasn't a happily married woman, the only way he would have had a chance is IF he could have spoken OUR language. We're in America, don't cha know?
I probably shouldn't post this, but I am a little sappy after doing a million loads of laundry. Plus there is no radio in this joint. Don't mean to be offensive. I do believe anyone coming to this country from any other country should learn to speak English as a means of communicating with society. Certainly, keep your native tongue, but conform, first to this way of life, here. It would prove to have many benefits.
C'ya!
Gosh, my 6th grade german teacher told me that story and I believed her for, let me count the years.....
True story - A hispancic guy was trying to hit on me tonight at a laundromat. Our washing machine died, but I digress. Anyway, he spoke zero English and I speak zero Spanish. The one thing I could understand was "numbre" with his hand held up to his ear and "beautiful". First, I think the guy must have been nuts. I am a middle age mom and am not proud to say I have gained a few lbs.
Second......
Did he really think we would be able to communicate on a phone if we had no success communicating in a laundromat? If I wasn't a happily married woman, the only way he would have had a chance is IF he could have spoken OUR language. We're in America, don't cha know?
I probably shouldn't post this, but I am a little sappy after doing a million loads of laundry. Plus there is no radio in this joint. Don't mean to be offensive. I do believe anyone coming to this country from any other country should learn to speak English as a means of communicating with society. Certainly, keep your native tongue, but conform, first to this way of life, here. It would prove to have many benefits.
C'ya!
Oh !!!!
My spanish is bad, but if I am not mistaking, he wasn't asking you for your phone number, it was your name. Are you familiar with the word "Nombre"? I guess not. Maybe the hand language might have signaled the phone number, I don't know, I can't tell what Hand signs he was giving you since I wasn't there.
Although I agree with you about immigrants learning english, I have eye witnessed myself that for many it is hard to learn. Many don't have the money to pay for english classes. And when the classes are offered for free, many people don't just find the time. It's an issue that will probably be forgotten very slowly.
You know, I had a reality check a while back, many of us will just have to deal with it. There is no way we can force english down the throaths of non-english speaking people curently residing in the U.S. It's just an issue that is now part of our lives. Be happy or be sad, it's not going away.
!!!! My spanish is bad, but if I am not mistaking, he wasn't asking you for your phone number, it was your name. Are you familiar with the word "Nombre"? I guess not. Maybe the hand language might have signaled the phone number, I don't know, I can't tell what Hand signs he was giving you since I wasn't there.
Although I agree with you about immigrants learning english, I have eye witnessed myself that for many it is hard to learn. Many don't have the money to pay for english classes. And when the classes are offered for free, many people don't just find the time. It's an issue that will probably be forgotten very slowly.
You know, I had a reality check a while back, many of us will just have to deal with it. There is no way we can force english down the throaths of non-english speaking people curently residing in the U.S. It's just an issue that is now part of our lives. Be happy or be sad, it's not going away.
van hespen said:
A little more history for you... beyond the German urban legend... ;D
Most large immigrant groups like the Italians, Germans, Poles, Chinese, even the Gaelic speaking Irish have had little success in the first generation in learning more than rudimentary English. Few became bilingual. It's the second generation thAt becomes bilingual, and the third English dominant. Language learning skills decline after about age 7 or 8, and are pretty much gone for most by post-adolesence so there is not much chance for most, and the pressures of making a living in a new country pretty much preclude spending much time in classes.
It's always been that way.
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van hespen
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Please accept my apology for my earlier post. Don't know what got into me. This issue is not that big of deal to me generally and David, you do make some good points. Again, no offense intended.
G'nite all.
G'nite all.
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mrtexmex2007
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Like me for an example my little sister and I were born and raised here in houston, she speaks English but only when she wants to. She says she is Mexican and that she dose not speak English. Most imigrants dont want to learn english, where I work we get some none englsih speaking customers that get angry when some of my co workers dont speak spanish. Its like my friends need to learn spanish, they dont have to learn english. :
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kendro
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I hope your sister eventually realizes that she is American. Learning and embracing the English language is the only way out of a life of low earning potential and unseen opportunity.
mrtexmex2007 said:Like me for an example my little sister and I were born and raised here in houston, she speaks English but only when she wants to. She says she is Mexican and that she dose not speak English. Most imigrants dont want to learn english, where I work we get some none englsih speaking customers that get angry when some of my co workers dont speak spanish. Its like my friends need to learn spanish, they dont have to learn english. :
i will disagree that immigrants dont want to learn english. i bet most if not all want to learn but have a hard time to learn or dont want to spend the time to learn. they do want to speak english but its not an easy language. those immigrant who get angry are those who dont want spend the time and since they cant speak it, they dont want to be left out and rather get angry with those and have them speak spanish.
speaking, reading, and writing english will help you more live a better life here than hurt you. and if english is your second language, you already have an advantage.
I have to completely agree.Kendromedia said:
And on a side note, I in some ways find it offensive when a lot of people claim and make fame over their country of origin over America. It's a big slap in the face to America. I can understand when someone says that they are Mexican or Kenyan and have pride for being from there, but when they go to the extremes and try to put their country of origin over America, which by the way is the country you work and live in, and make it seem that it is better, it is a huge slap on the face to many of us. One great example is the whole "Los Angeles, Mexico" that Liberman had going on a while back
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