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Prediction re: 98Rock

M

MarkW

What do you wanna bet this brouhaha involving Cowhead & Medlin is nothing more than CC finding an excuse to fire some people & not pay them?

Why would they want to fire these folks? Simple. I'm guessing they've given up on 98Rock. I smell a format change ahead.

Firing these folks "with cause" probably enables CC not to pay out the remainder of their contracts. A clever, yet very unethical move on their part, if my speculation is right.
 
Mark W. asked:

> Why would they want to fire these folks? Simple. I'm
> guessing they've given up on 98Rock. I smell a format
> change ahead.

Perhaps "L'Affaire Cowhead" provided WXTB owner Clear Channel with the excused they need to make a format change.....maybe even to Spanish-language programming.
 
> What do you wanna bet this brouhaha involving Cowhead &
> Medlin is nothing more than CC finding an excuse to fire
> some people & not pay them?

I'll bet you ten dollars!


> Why would they want to fire these folks? Simple. I'm
> guessing they've given up on 98Rock. I smell a format
> change ahead.

Check your pants. That might be where the smell is coming from.

> Firing these folks "with cause" probably enables CC not to
> pay out the remainder of their contracts. A clever, yet
> very unethical move on their part, if my speculation is
> right.


Unethical? If the story is true about engineering screwing up (just like sales people blame the traffic department), then the P.D.'s job would be to MAKE SURE that engineering fixed the equipment immediately, especially when you're dealing with the DUMP BUTTON, given the current climate with the FCC. If the P.D. knew the DUMP BUTTON wasn't working, and the jock knew it wasn't working, and the F-Bomb gets through... THEY WEREN'T DOING THEIR JOB.

These days, having the DUMP BUTTON work correctly is as important as having the MICROPHONES work correctly.

It's a very unfortunate situation for everyone involved.
 
> Check your pants. That might be where the smell is coming
> from.
>

Seems to me Cowhead was never informed that the Dump button wasn't working!

If anyone should've been fired over the f-bomb, it should've been the station engineer, assuming Cowhead was telling the truth in his post to this board.

How the hell is a malfunctional dump button the jock's fault?

Furthermore, how do you know whether or not Medlin was even made aware the Dump button was malfunctioning?

I'll stand by my theory that 98Rock is a goner, and this is nothing more than an excuse CC is using to save money.

Maybe we'll see them plug in a syndicated morning show for a while (until a new format is finalized), but I'll be surprised if 98Rock still exists 12 months from now.
 
> > Check your pants. That might be where the smell is coming
>
> > from.
> >
>
> Seems to me Cowhead was never informed that the Dump button
> wasn't working!
>
> If anyone should've been fired over the f-bomb, it should've
> been the station engineer, assuming Cowhead was telling the
> truth in his post to this board.
>
> How the hell is a malfunctional dump button the jock's
> fault?
>
> Furthermore, how do you know whether or not Medlin was even
> made aware the Dump button was malfunctioning?
>
> I'll stand by my theory that 98Rock is a goner, and this is
> nothing more than an excuse CC is using to save money.
>
> Maybe we'll see them plug in a syndicated morning show for a
> while (until a new format is finalized), but I'll be
> surprised if 98Rock still exists 12 months from now.
>


I think the issue to some extent is whether the time has passed for shows that live and die by the dump button.

Spanish might generate less revenue, but by the same token the airstaff will be very inexpensive, as it's not personality driven. I'd hate to see it happen but I just think it's the path of least resistance for management.

What baffles me is this: CC's VP of rock programming, Gene Romano, sits in the corner office at WDVE/Pittsburgh. DVE is #1 in every meaningful demo in the Burgh, and they do it with an almost all classic rock format (they will play small amounts of current stuff that fits the sound), relatable personalities, and overall a very clean adult-oriented presentation. Why then, is that not tried elsewhere? In its glory days, 102.5 the Point played great music and kept it clean, and it was a cash cow for a long time. Thunder faded when it was dumbed down to 500 songs (if that), and the classic rock pie was split three ways by the two Cox entities, but why couldn't you be safe and profitable (low cost) with a new rock jukebox, and do a super-high quality adult rock presentation with the likes of Riggie, Ledge, Russ Albums and folks like that?

Or am I just nuts?<P ID="signature">______________
"With God as my witness, I could have sworn turkeys could fly."</P>
 
i think everyone here is missing the fact that it has nothing to
do with the dump button cow has said so himself on different boards and here
it has to do with content that aired no fcc fine, no f bombs it was a
difference of whats acceptable in todays medium cow and crew were pushing the
line while listening to the show i never thought they crossed it i think 98
rock is just plain snakebit with bubba and the monsters sensitvity training
i just dont think cow's bosses were willing to take any chances
 
> Seems to me Cowhead was never informed that the Dump button
> wasn't working!

Have you ever worked with a DUMP BUTTON? It's impossible to NOT KNOW if it's working. You have to monitor the station in PROGRAM. It's easy to check if it's working... switch the source on your monitors from "program" to "air". If there is a DELAY... it is working!!!!


> How the hell is a malfunctional dump button the jock's
> fault?

The malfunction is NOT the jock's fault. Inviting GUESTS on air (in-studio or on the phone) with a malfunctioning DUMP BUTTON is the jock's fault.



> Furthermore, how do you know whether or not Medlin was even
> made aware the Dump button was malfunctioning?

I don't. I'm only offering a different perspective on WHY a P.D. and Jock would get fired if the DUMP BUTTON was broken for a week.


> I'll stand by my theory that 98Rock is a goner, and this is
> nothing more than an excuse CC is using to save money.
> Maybe we'll see them plug in a syndicated morning show for a
> while (until a new format is finalized), but I'll be
> surprised if 98Rock still exists 12 months from now.

Wow... now you're giving your "prediction" 12 months to foment. Way to increase your odds. <P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by BigSmelly420 on 03/18/06 08:49 PM.</FONT></P>
 
I say take 102.5 The Bone and make them both current and classic rock. Or give 97X a better signal so we can hear something more then what CC has to offer. I like hearing every side of the format. CBS doesnt have a rock station so we have 97X, 102.5 The Bone, and 98Rock.

> > > Check your pants. That might be where the smell is
> coming
> >
> > > from.
> > >
> >
> > Seems to me Cowhead was never informed that the Dump
> button
> > wasn't working!
> >
> > If anyone should've been fired over the f-bomb, it
> should've
> > been the station engineer, assuming Cowhead was telling
> the
> > truth in his post to this board.
> >
> > How the hell is a malfunctional dump button the jock's
> > fault?
> >
> > Furthermore, how do you know whether or not Medlin was
> even
> > made aware the Dump button was malfunctioning?
> >
> > I'll stand by my theory that 98Rock is a goner, and this
> is
> > nothing more than an excuse CC is using to save money.
> >
> > Maybe we'll see them plug in a syndicated morning show for
> a
> > while (until a new format is finalized), but I'll be
> > surprised if 98Rock still exists 12 months from now.
> >
>
>
> I think the issue to some extent is whether the time has
> passed for shows that live and die by the dump button.
>
> Spanish might generate less revenue, but by the same token
> the airstaff will be very inexpensive, as it's not
> personality driven. I'd hate to see it happen but I just
> think it's the path of least resistance for management.
>
> What baffles me is this: CC's VP of rock programming, Gene
> Romano, sits in the corner office at WDVE/Pittsburgh. DVE is
> #1 in every meaningful demo in the Burgh, and they do it
> with an almost all classic rock format (they will play small
> amounts of current stuff that fits the sound), relatable
> personalities, and overall a very clean adult-oriented
> presentation. Why then, is that not tried elsewhere? In its
> glory days, 102.5 the Point played great music and kept it
> clean, and it was a cash cow for a long time. Thunder faded
> when it was dumbed down to 500 songs (if that), and the
> classic rock pie was split three ways by the two Cox
> entities, but why couldn't you be safe and profitable (low
> cost) with a new rock jukebox, and do a super-high quality
> adult rock presentation with the likes of Riggie, Ledge,
> Russ Albums and folks like that?
>
> Or am I just nuts?
>
 
The PD AND the talent did their jobs. Cowhead did the right thing by dumping (or what he thought was dumping) the f bomb. As soon as I heard the bomb go through, I went to investigate. The problem WAS fixed immediately.
The jock DID his job by dumping the offesive words. I DID my job by finding out why the material went out over the air. The Engineers DID their job by fixing the problem.

Just wanted to set it straight that everybody did thier jobs.



> Unethical? If the story is true about engineering screwing
> up (just like sales people blame the traffic department),
> then the P.D.'s job would be to MAKE SURE that engineering
> fixed the equipment immediately, especially when you're
> dealing with the DUMP BUTTON, given the current climate with
> the FCC. If the P.D. knew the DUMP BUTTON wasn't working,
> and the jock knew it wasn't working, and the F-Bomb gets
> through... THEY WEREN'T DOING THEIR JOB.
>
> These days, having the DUMP BUTTON work correctly is as
> important as having the MICROPHONES work correctly.
>
> It's a very unfortunate situation for everyone involved.
>
 
> The PD AND the talent did their jobs. Cowhead did the right
> thing by dumping (or what he thought was dumping) the f
> bomb. As soon as I heard the bomb go through, I went to
> investigate. The problem WAS fixed immediately.
> The jock DID his job by dumping the offesive words. I DID my
> job by finding out why the material went out over the air.
> The Engineers DID their job by fixing the problem.
>
> Just wanted to set it straight that everybody did thier
> jobs.
>

If everyone did their jobs then why is the jock out of a job now?



>
>
> > Unethical? If the story is true about engineering
> screwing
> > up (just like sales people blame the traffic department),
> > then the P.D.'s job would be to MAKE SURE that engineering
>
> > fixed the equipment immediately, especially when you're
> > dealing with the DUMP BUTTON, given the current climate
> with
> > the FCC. If the P.D. knew the DUMP BUTTON wasn't working,
>
> > and the jock knew it wasn't working, and the F-Bomb gets
> > through... THEY WEREN'T DOING THEIR JOB.
> >
> > These days, having the DUMP BUTTON work correctly is as
> > important as having the MICROPHONES work correctly.
> >
> > It's a very unfortunate situation for everyone involved.
> >
>
 
The fact that we were let go had to do with something else. We were talking about the F bomb that slipped.



> If everyone did their jobs then why is the jock out of a job
> now?
 
A format change, would leave CC with out a rocker in this market. I just can't see that happening now. But I've been wrong many times before. We'll see...

Cedric

> Mark W. asked:
>
> > Why would they want to fire these folks? Simple. I'm
> > guessing they've given up on 98Rock. I smell a format
> > change ahead.
>
> Perhaps "L'Affaire Cowhead" provided WXTB owner Clear
> Channel with the excused they need to make a format
> change.....maybe even to Spanish-language programming.
>
 
ya' know, after reading all of this, and hear what tripe this area has to offer in "music," i took the plunge a few months ago and bought xm.

lemme tell you, bitching about who is fired and what the nazis as CC will do for the average listener is so past tense.

satalite radio is the bomb. there's a reason why people are flocking there. and cc executives has only to look in the mirror to wonder why they are losing audience numbers in droves.
 
> The fact that we were let go had to do with something else.
> We were talking about the F bomb that slipped.
>
>
>
> > If everyone did their jobs then why is the jock out of a
> job
> > now?
>

Apologies for making assumptions, was basing hypothetical on limited information.
 
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