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> Anyone care to speculate on this fall's ratings in
> Birmingham, Huntsville and Dothan?
>
Do you mean this past fall of 2005? If so, probably not that great since satellite radio continues to kick fm radio down due to dumbass decisions by Citadel, Cox, Clear Channel, and whomever else I left out.
> Birmingham, Huntsville and Dothan?
>
Do you mean this past fall of 2005? If so, probably not that great since satellite radio continues to kick fm radio down due to dumbass decisions by Citadel, Cox, Clear Channel, and whomever else I left out.
> > Anyone care to speculate on this fall's ratings in
> > Birmingham, Huntsville and Dothan?
> >
>
> Do you mean this past fall of 2005? If so, probably not that
> great since satellite radio continues to kick fm radio down
> due to dumbass decisions by Citadel, Cox, Clear Channel, and
> whomever else I left out.
>
Hmm.. let's see here... we have XM with about 4 million subscribers (as of May, 2005) and we have Sirius with about 3.3 million subscribers at the end of 05.
Now, in 2004 alone, there were appx 15 millions cars sold in the United States. It is safe to say that they all had AM/FM radios factory installed, and that almost all of those vehicles are still on the road and being used on a daily basis.
Free vs. Pay: lets face it most people are cheap. They don't want to pay for something they can get for free...
According to the U.S. Bureau of the Census, the resident population of the United States, projected to 01/19/06 at 19:34 GMT (EST+5) is 297,937,915. (Source census.gov)
Now, out of those 297,000,000+ people we have (i'll round up) 8 million people who are subscribers to Satellite radio. Lets say for the sake of argument that out of the 297,937,915 or so people in the US that only 297,000,000 of them have AM/FM radios. It is almost 100% assured that the 8 million sat radio subscribers also have AM/FM radios as well.
And lets remember that it is free, and John Q. Public doesn't want to pay for something that they can get for free.
Now, if you don't mind I have a terrestrial radio transmitter off that has the phone lines lit up... strange how that happens when no one is listening.
> > Birmingham, Huntsville and Dothan?
> >
>
> Do you mean this past fall of 2005? If so, probably not that
> great since satellite radio continues to kick fm radio down
> due to dumbass decisions by Citadel, Cox, Clear Channel, and
> whomever else I left out.
>
Hmm.. let's see here... we have XM with about 4 million subscribers (as of May, 2005) and we have Sirius with about 3.3 million subscribers at the end of 05.
Now, in 2004 alone, there were appx 15 millions cars sold in the United States. It is safe to say that they all had AM/FM radios factory installed, and that almost all of those vehicles are still on the road and being used on a daily basis.
Free vs. Pay: lets face it most people are cheap. They don't want to pay for something they can get for free...
According to the U.S. Bureau of the Census, the resident population of the United States, projected to 01/19/06 at 19:34 GMT (EST+5) is 297,937,915. (Source census.gov)
Now, out of those 297,000,000+ people we have (i'll round up) 8 million people who are subscribers to Satellite radio. Lets say for the sake of argument that out of the 297,937,915 or so people in the US that only 297,000,000 of them have AM/FM radios. It is almost 100% assured that the 8 million sat radio subscribers also have AM/FM radios as well.
And lets remember that it is free, and John Q. Public doesn't want to pay for something that they can get for free.
Now, if you don't mind I have a terrestrial radio transmitter off that has the phone lines lit up... strange how that happens when no one is listening.
>
> And lets remember that it is free, and John Q. Public
> doesn't want to pay for something that they can get for
> free.
>
Television, access to the internet (and subscriptions to sites of their interests), printed material often available in the library...water? (lol)
Of course, what broadcasters often fail to note in comparing satellite to terrestrial radio: The business models of each. The terrestrial side needs many ears to sell advertising and the satellite side needs many ears to buy subscriptions; the latter doesn't need nearly as many users as the former to achieve profitability.
XM and Sirius haven't gotten to that point yet--but given their recent offerings and promotions, they aren't going down without a fight.And personally, $10-13 is a relative drop in the hat compared to what most people are spending on digital media (cable/satellite television, WWW access, wireless phone and communication devices, video games, etc.).
Satellite radio will never kill broadcast, but don't pretend that it isn't a threat.
(Sorry for going off-topic, just felt the need to respond.)
<P ID="signature">______________
"I have the feeling about 60% of what you say is crap."--David Letterman underestimates Bill O'Reilly</P>
> And lets remember that it is free, and John Q. Public
> doesn't want to pay for something that they can get for
> free.
>
Television, access to the internet (and subscriptions to sites of their interests), printed material often available in the library...water? (lol)
Of course, what broadcasters often fail to note in comparing satellite to terrestrial radio: The business models of each. The terrestrial side needs many ears to sell advertising and the satellite side needs many ears to buy subscriptions; the latter doesn't need nearly as many users as the former to achieve profitability.
XM and Sirius haven't gotten to that point yet--but given their recent offerings and promotions, they aren't going down without a fight.And personally, $10-13 is a relative drop in the hat compared to what most people are spending on digital media (cable/satellite television, WWW access, wireless phone and communication devices, video games, etc.).
Satellite radio will never kill broadcast, but don't pretend that it isn't a threat.
(Sorry for going off-topic, just felt the need to respond.)
<P ID="signature">______________
"I have the feeling about 60% of what you say is crap."--David Letterman underestimates Bill O'Reilly</P>
B
brian5
Guest
> > > Anyone care to speculate on this fall's ratings in
> > > Birmingham, Huntsville and Dothan?
> > >
> >
> > Do you mean this past fall of 2005? If so, probably not
> that
> > great since satellite radio continues to kick fm radio
> down
> > due to dumbass decisions by Citadel, Cox, Clear Channel,
> and
> > whomever else I left out.
> >
>
> Hmm.. let's see here... we have XM with about 4 million
> subscribers (as of May, 2005) and we have Sirius with about
> 3.3 million subscribers at the end of 05.
>
> Now, in 2004 alone, there were appx 15 millions cars sold in
> the United States. It is safe to say that they all had AM/FM
> radios factory installed, and that almost all of those
> vehicles are still on the road and being used on a daily
> basis.
>
> Free vs. Pay: lets face it most people are cheap. They
> don't want to pay for something they can get for free...
>
> According to the U.S. Bureau of the Census, the resident
> population of the United States, projected to 01/19/06 at
> 19:34 GMT (EST+5) is 297,937,915. (Source census.gov)
>
> Now, out of those 297,000,000+ people we have (i'll round
> up) 8 million people who are subscribers to Satellite radio.
> Lets say for the sake of argument that out of the
> 297,937,915 or so people in the US that only 297,000,000 of
> them have AM/FM radios. It is almost 100% assured that the
> 8 million sat radio subscribers also have AM/FM radios as
> well.
>
> And lets remember that it is free, and John Q. Public
> doesn't want to pay for something that they can get for
> free.
>
> Now, if you don't mind I have a terrestrial radio
> transmitter off that has the phone lines lit up... strange
> how that happens when no one is listening.
>
You are painting with a very broad brush. You are correct that the US population is apx. 300 million. To say that 99.3% listen to their free terrestrial radio is insane! 300 million includes everyone from birth to 120! If your money making demo is 25 to 45, that is what 30% of the population. So your target just shrunk from 300 million to 90 million. Now 10%, 9 million of that core audience of 25 to 45 year olds (most satellite buyers fit in the core demo) have decided that free radio is so bad that they are willing to invest a minimum of $29 for a receiver plus 13 bucks a month to hear something different. If I was a radio station owner, I would be scrambling to find a solution to fix the problem ASAP. If local radio can't provide the core listening audience to its advertisers...they will advertise elsewhere where they can reach them better. Local radio will cut back more expenses to adjust for lost revenue and listeners will flock even faster to satellite.
<P ID="signature">______________
Brian
www.montgomerytvandradio.com</P>
> > > Birmingham, Huntsville and Dothan?
> > >
> >
> > Do you mean this past fall of 2005? If so, probably not
> that
> > great since satellite radio continues to kick fm radio
> down
> > due to dumbass decisions by Citadel, Cox, Clear Channel,
> and
> > whomever else I left out.
> >
>
> Hmm.. let's see here... we have XM with about 4 million
> subscribers (as of May, 2005) and we have Sirius with about
> 3.3 million subscribers at the end of 05.
>
> Now, in 2004 alone, there were appx 15 millions cars sold in
> the United States. It is safe to say that they all had AM/FM
> radios factory installed, and that almost all of those
> vehicles are still on the road and being used on a daily
> basis.
>
> Free vs. Pay: lets face it most people are cheap. They
> don't want to pay for something they can get for free...
>
> According to the U.S. Bureau of the Census, the resident
> population of the United States, projected to 01/19/06 at
> 19:34 GMT (EST+5) is 297,937,915. (Source census.gov)
>
> Now, out of those 297,000,000+ people we have (i'll round
> up) 8 million people who are subscribers to Satellite radio.
> Lets say for the sake of argument that out of the
> 297,937,915 or so people in the US that only 297,000,000 of
> them have AM/FM radios. It is almost 100% assured that the
> 8 million sat radio subscribers also have AM/FM radios as
> well.
>
> And lets remember that it is free, and John Q. Public
> doesn't want to pay for something that they can get for
> free.
>
> Now, if you don't mind I have a terrestrial radio
> transmitter off that has the phone lines lit up... strange
> how that happens when no one is listening.
>
You are painting with a very broad brush. You are correct that the US population is apx. 300 million. To say that 99.3% listen to their free terrestrial radio is insane! 300 million includes everyone from birth to 120! If your money making demo is 25 to 45, that is what 30% of the population. So your target just shrunk from 300 million to 90 million. Now 10%, 9 million of that core audience of 25 to 45 year olds (most satellite buyers fit in the core demo) have decided that free radio is so bad that they are willing to invest a minimum of $29 for a receiver plus 13 bucks a month to hear something different. If I was a radio station owner, I would be scrambling to find a solution to fix the problem ASAP. If local radio can't provide the core listening audience to its advertisers...they will advertise elsewhere where they can reach them better. Local radio will cut back more expenses to adjust for lost revenue and listeners will flock even faster to satellite.
<P ID="signature">______________
Brian
www.montgomerytvandradio.com</P>
> > > Anyone care to speculate on this fall's ratings in
> > > Birmingham, Huntsville and Dothan?
> > >
> >
> > Do you mean this past fall of 2005? If so, probably not
> that
> > great since satellite radio continues to kick fm radio
> down
> > due to dumbass decisions by Citadel, Cox, Clear Channel,
> and
> > whomever else I left out.
> >
>
> Hmm.. let's see here... we have XM with about 4 million
> subscribers (as of May, 2005) and we have Sirius with about
> 3.3 million subscribers at the end of 05.
>
> Now, in 2004 alone, there were appx 15 millions cars sold in
> the United States. It is safe to say that they all had AM/FM
> radios factory installed, and that almost all of those
> vehicles are still on the road and being used on a daily
> basis.
>
> Free vs. Pay: lets face it most people are cheap. They
> don't want to pay for something they can get for free...
>
> According to the U.S. Bureau of the Census, the resident
> population of the United States, projected to 01/19/06 at
> 19:34 GMT (EST+5) is 297,937,915. (Source census.gov)
>
> Now, out of those 297,000,000+ people we have (i'll round
> up) 8 million people who are subscribers to Satellite radio.
> Lets say for the sake of argument that out of the
> 297,937,915 or so people in the US that only 297,000,000 of
> them have AM/FM radios. It is almost 100% assured that the
> 8 million sat radio subscribers also have AM/FM radios as
> well.
>
> And lets remember that it is free, and John Q. Public
> doesn't want to pay for something that they can get for
> free.
>
> Now, if you don't mind I have a terrestrial radio
> transmitter off that has the phone lines lit up... strange
> how that happens when no one is listening.
>
Of course, all this assumes that over 297 million people are strictly listening to the radio, and are not using devices such as CD players, Walkmans, Ipods, as well as XM and Sirius. I don't know that research has been devised to show how many people are still with Free Media and how many use secondary media avenues.
Look, it boils down to this....people hate commercials. That's why programmers are constantly looking for ways to keep people from channel fishing during commercials. Ads ARE a necessary evil for free radio, and to a lesser extent, pay radio. But, they are intrusive into musical enjoyment.
We will never see 297 million subscribers to Pay radio. But, as more people get disenfranchsed and dissapointed with the fare on Free radio, some will shell out the $$$ for the selection and the freedom from ads. All alternate forms of media are eroding Free Radio. I'm not sure personally what the answer is, but radio companies and programmers must find a way to win back the loyalty of the hardcore radio consumer.
Ya know, in the 60's, Conventional wisdom was that no one would pay for cable TV either..........
> > > Birmingham, Huntsville and Dothan?
> > >
> >
> > Do you mean this past fall of 2005? If so, probably not
> that
> > great since satellite radio continues to kick fm radio
> down
> > due to dumbass decisions by Citadel, Cox, Clear Channel,
> and
> > whomever else I left out.
> >
>
> Hmm.. let's see here... we have XM with about 4 million
> subscribers (as of May, 2005) and we have Sirius with about
> 3.3 million subscribers at the end of 05.
>
> Now, in 2004 alone, there were appx 15 millions cars sold in
> the United States. It is safe to say that they all had AM/FM
> radios factory installed, and that almost all of those
> vehicles are still on the road and being used on a daily
> basis.
>
> Free vs. Pay: lets face it most people are cheap. They
> don't want to pay for something they can get for free...
>
> According to the U.S. Bureau of the Census, the resident
> population of the United States, projected to 01/19/06 at
> 19:34 GMT (EST+5) is 297,937,915. (Source census.gov)
>
> Now, out of those 297,000,000+ people we have (i'll round
> up) 8 million people who are subscribers to Satellite radio.
> Lets say for the sake of argument that out of the
> 297,937,915 or so people in the US that only 297,000,000 of
> them have AM/FM radios. It is almost 100% assured that the
> 8 million sat radio subscribers also have AM/FM radios as
> well.
>
> And lets remember that it is free, and John Q. Public
> doesn't want to pay for something that they can get for
> free.
>
> Now, if you don't mind I have a terrestrial radio
> transmitter off that has the phone lines lit up... strange
> how that happens when no one is listening.
>
Of course, all this assumes that over 297 million people are strictly listening to the radio, and are not using devices such as CD players, Walkmans, Ipods, as well as XM and Sirius. I don't know that research has been devised to show how many people are still with Free Media and how many use secondary media avenues.
Look, it boils down to this....people hate commercials. That's why programmers are constantly looking for ways to keep people from channel fishing during commercials. Ads ARE a necessary evil for free radio, and to a lesser extent, pay radio. But, they are intrusive into musical enjoyment.
We will never see 297 million subscribers to Pay radio. But, as more people get disenfranchsed and dissapointed with the fare on Free radio, some will shell out the $$$ for the selection and the freedom from ads. All alternate forms of media are eroding Free Radio. I'm not sure personally what the answer is, but radio companies and programmers must find a way to win back the loyalty of the hardcore radio consumer.
Ya know, in the 60's, Conventional wisdom was that no one would pay for cable TV either..........
> >
> > And lets remember that it is free, and John Q. Public
> > doesn't want to pay for something that they can get for
> > free.
> >
> Television, access to the internet (and subscriptions to
> sites of their interests), printed material often available
> in the library...water? (lol)
>
> Of course, what broadcasters often fail to note in comparing
> satellite to terrestrial radio: The business models of each.
> The terrestrial side needs many ears to sell advertising and
> the satellite side needs many ears to buy subscriptions; the
> latter doesn't need nearly as many users as the former to
> achieve profitability.
>
> XM and Sirius haven't gotten to that point yet--but given
> their recent offerings and promotions, they aren't going
> down without a fight.And personally, $10-13 is a relative
> drop in the hat compared to what most people are spending on
> digital media (cable/satellite television, WWW access,
> wireless phone and communication devices, video games,
> etc.).
>
> Satellite radio will never kill broadcast, but don't pretend
> that it isn't a threat.
>
> (Sorry for going off-topic, just felt the need to respond.)
>
All of you make very good points, and most of those points I had thought about. However, convenience was the point I was really trying to make (before a TX shut off and I had to go fix it). To those 300 million people or so, AM/FM is convenient because of reciever placement and the fact that you can buy a radio for a couple of bucks. I don't do so badly for myself, but I can't justify paying for radio. Do they offer some programming on Sirius and XM that I would enjoy.. yes, probably... but can I spend that $13 bucks elsewhere and still get programming I enjoy? Most of the time, yes.
I am not against XM and Sirius... I think they are great business concepts and I wish them the best. I was merely trying to respond to the blatent accusation that sat radio is killing terrestrial. Just untrue!
I agree that my assertion that 300 million people use AM/FM everyday was extreme. I will, however disagree that the only money making demo is 25-45. For the cluster I work in, our biggest money maker is Urban. We don't market it to 25-45 by any means... in fact i'd be suprised if anyone over 30 listens anytime other than morning drive (a very popular local morning show).
For those of us who work in terrestrial radio, I think we can agree that no one is running around pulling their hair out about lost revenue to XM.
I'm much more threatened by the IPOD/MP3 players than I am XM.
I would also like to re-extend my invitation to silentgreg (irony in the name, huh?) to be among the XM/Sirius subscribers because frankly I tire of his incessant whining. If they are so great, why don't you tear the AM/FM set out of your car, and your house and replace it with a great XM or Sirius set. Oh, that's because then you couldn't complain!
If you want to let a station know how you feel, send them a nice e-mail letting them know things you would like to hear! Point out that you fall in the demo and that you'd love to give your loyalty to that station! When a station does something right, tell them! An e-mail that is positive will certainly not hit the bit-bucket as fast as an e-mail that starts out with "Do you know how bad you suck, let me name the ways".
Terrestrial radio needs a swift kick in the pants, no doubt... but whining on an internet radio forum is hardly the way to make changes.
As for cable TV, you are correct... but somehow broadcast TV has managed to stay on the air and be quite profitable. They still offer something people want to see FOR FREE. So you only get 22 minutes of programming out of 30.. so what! Go make some coffee, turn the volume down and talk to your kids... oh and find a mainstream cable channel that doesn't have advertising!
Movies and radio survived television, television has survived cable and sattelite, and radio will survive satelite too..
> > And lets remember that it is free, and John Q. Public
> > doesn't want to pay for something that they can get for
> > free.
> >
> Television, access to the internet (and subscriptions to
> sites of their interests), printed material often available
> in the library...water? (lol)
>
> Of course, what broadcasters often fail to note in comparing
> satellite to terrestrial radio: The business models of each.
> The terrestrial side needs many ears to sell advertising and
> the satellite side needs many ears to buy subscriptions; the
> latter doesn't need nearly as many users as the former to
> achieve profitability.
>
> XM and Sirius haven't gotten to that point yet--but given
> their recent offerings and promotions, they aren't going
> down without a fight.And personally, $10-13 is a relative
> drop in the hat compared to what most people are spending on
> digital media (cable/satellite television, WWW access,
> wireless phone and communication devices, video games,
> etc.).
>
> Satellite radio will never kill broadcast, but don't pretend
> that it isn't a threat.
>
> (Sorry for going off-topic, just felt the need to respond.)
>
All of you make very good points, and most of those points I had thought about. However, convenience was the point I was really trying to make (before a TX shut off and I had to go fix it). To those 300 million people or so, AM/FM is convenient because of reciever placement and the fact that you can buy a radio for a couple of bucks. I don't do so badly for myself, but I can't justify paying for radio. Do they offer some programming on Sirius and XM that I would enjoy.. yes, probably... but can I spend that $13 bucks elsewhere and still get programming I enjoy? Most of the time, yes.
I am not against XM and Sirius... I think they are great business concepts and I wish them the best. I was merely trying to respond to the blatent accusation that sat radio is killing terrestrial. Just untrue!
I agree that my assertion that 300 million people use AM/FM everyday was extreme. I will, however disagree that the only money making demo is 25-45. For the cluster I work in, our biggest money maker is Urban. We don't market it to 25-45 by any means... in fact i'd be suprised if anyone over 30 listens anytime other than morning drive (a very popular local morning show).
For those of us who work in terrestrial radio, I think we can agree that no one is running around pulling their hair out about lost revenue to XM.
I'm much more threatened by the IPOD/MP3 players than I am XM.
I would also like to re-extend my invitation to silentgreg (irony in the name, huh?) to be among the XM/Sirius subscribers because frankly I tire of his incessant whining. If they are so great, why don't you tear the AM/FM set out of your car, and your house and replace it with a great XM or Sirius set. Oh, that's because then you couldn't complain!
If you want to let a station know how you feel, send them a nice e-mail letting them know things you would like to hear! Point out that you fall in the demo and that you'd love to give your loyalty to that station! When a station does something right, tell them! An e-mail that is positive will certainly not hit the bit-bucket as fast as an e-mail that starts out with "Do you know how bad you suck, let me name the ways".
Terrestrial radio needs a swift kick in the pants, no doubt... but whining on an internet radio forum is hardly the way to make changes.
As for cable TV, you are correct... but somehow broadcast TV has managed to stay on the air and be quite profitable. They still offer something people want to see FOR FREE. So you only get 22 minutes of programming out of 30.. so what! Go make some coffee, turn the volume down and talk to your kids... oh and find a mainstream cable channel that doesn't have advertising!
Movies and radio survived television, television has survived cable and sattelite, and radio will survive satelite too..
B
brian5
Guest
> > >
> > > And lets remember that it is free, and John Q. Public
> > > doesn't want to pay for something that they can get for
> > > free.
> > >
> > Television, access to the internet (and subscriptions to
> > sites of their interests), printed material often
> available
> > in the library...water? (lol)
> >
> > Of course, what broadcasters often fail to note in
> comparing
> > satellite to terrestrial radio: The business models of
> each.
> > The terrestrial side needs many ears to sell advertising
> and
> > the satellite side needs many ears to buy subscriptions;
> the
> > latter doesn't need nearly as many users as the former to
> > achieve profitability.
> >
> > XM and Sirius haven't gotten to that point yet--but given
> > their recent offerings and promotions, they aren't going
> > down without a fight.And personally, $10-13 is a relative
> > drop in the hat compared to what most people are spending
> on
> > digital media (cable/satellite television, WWW access,
> > wireless phone and communication devices, video games,
> > etc.).
> >
> > Satellite radio will never kill broadcast, but don't
> pretend
> > that it isn't a threat.
> >
> > (Sorry for going off-topic, just felt the need to
> respond.)
> >
>
> All of you make very good points, and most of those points I
> had thought about. However, convenience was the point I was
> really trying to make (before a TX shut off and I had to go
> fix it). To those 300 million people or so, AM/FM is
> convenient because of reciever placement and the fact that
> you can buy a radio for a couple of bucks. I don't do so
> badly for myself, but I can't justify paying for radio. Do
> they offer some programming on Sirius and XM that I would
> enjoy.. yes, probably... but can I spend that $13 bucks
> elsewhere and still get programming I enjoy? Most of the
> time, yes.
>
> I am not against XM and Sirius... I think they are great
> business concepts and I wish them the best. I was merely
> trying to respond to the blatent accusation that sat radio
> is killing terrestrial. Just untrue!
>
> I agree that my assertion that 300 million people use AM/FM
> everyday was extreme. I will, however disagree that the only
> money making demo is 25-45. For the cluster I work in, our
> biggest money maker is Urban. We don't market it to 25-45
> by any means... in fact i'd be suprised if anyone over 30
> listens anytime other than morning drive (a very popular
> local morning show).
>
> For those of us who work in terrestrial radio, I think we
> can agree that no one is running around pulling their hair
> out about lost revenue to XM.
>
> I'm much more threatened by the IPOD/MP3 players than I am
> XM.
>
> I would also like to re-extend my invitation to silentgreg
> (irony in the name, huh?) to be among the XM/Sirius
> subscribers because frankly I tire of his incessant whining.
> If they are so great, why don't you tear the AM/FM set out
> of your car, and your house and replace it with a great XM
> or Sirius set. Oh, that's because then you couldn't
> complain!
>
> If you want to let a station know how you feel, send them a
> nice e-mail letting them know things you would like to hear!
> Point out that you fall in the demo and that you'd love to
> give your loyalty to that station! When a station does
> something right, tell them! An e-mail that is positive will
> certainly not hit the bit-bucket as fast as an e-mail that
> starts out with "Do you know how bad you suck, let me name
> the ways".
>
> Terrestrial radio needs a swift kick in the pants, no
> doubt... but whining on an internet radio forum is hardly
> the way to make changes.
>
> As for cable TV, you are correct... but somehow broadcast TV
> has managed to stay on the air and be quite profitable.
> They still offer something people want to see FOR FREE. So
> you only get 22 minutes of programming out of 30.. so what!
> Go make some coffee, turn the volume down and talk to your
> kids... oh and find a mainstream cable channel that doesn't
> have advertising!
>
> Movies and radio survived television, television has
> survived cable and sattelite, and radio will survive
> satelite too..
>
Radio will definitely survive satellite...but it will have to be reborn. Another example is FM versus AM. AM is still around, but is it used the same as it was 40 years ago? The example of broadcast tv surviving is not a good one. Broadcast TV survived by getting picked up and put on the air on cable. How many houses do you see those 20 foot antennae on these days?
I will disagree with you firmly on one thing...if you are working for a true urban formatted radio station, your core audience is the 25 to 45. Ask your local sales manager which figures he pulls the ratings for when talking to his clients. Ask the program director what kind of listener he is thinking of when he makes his programming decisions. If they aren't focused on the 25 to 45 demo on an urban format, I would be extremely surprised.
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www.montgomerytvandradio.com</P>
> > > And lets remember that it is free, and John Q. Public
> > > doesn't want to pay for something that they can get for
> > > free.
> > >
> > Television, access to the internet (and subscriptions to
> > sites of their interests), printed material often
> available
> > in the library...water? (lol)
> >
> > Of course, what broadcasters often fail to note in
> comparing
> > satellite to terrestrial radio: The business models of
> each.
> > The terrestrial side needs many ears to sell advertising
> and
> > the satellite side needs many ears to buy subscriptions;
> the
> > latter doesn't need nearly as many users as the former to
> > achieve profitability.
> >
> > XM and Sirius haven't gotten to that point yet--but given
> > their recent offerings and promotions, they aren't going
> > down without a fight.And personally, $10-13 is a relative
> > drop in the hat compared to what most people are spending
> on
> > digital media (cable/satellite television, WWW access,
> > wireless phone and communication devices, video games,
> > etc.).
> >
> > Satellite radio will never kill broadcast, but don't
> pretend
> > that it isn't a threat.
> >
> > (Sorry for going off-topic, just felt the need to
> respond.)
> >
>
> All of you make very good points, and most of those points I
> had thought about. However, convenience was the point I was
> really trying to make (before a TX shut off and I had to go
> fix it). To those 300 million people or so, AM/FM is
> convenient because of reciever placement and the fact that
> you can buy a radio for a couple of bucks. I don't do so
> badly for myself, but I can't justify paying for radio. Do
> they offer some programming on Sirius and XM that I would
> enjoy.. yes, probably... but can I spend that $13 bucks
> elsewhere and still get programming I enjoy? Most of the
> time, yes.
>
> I am not against XM and Sirius... I think they are great
> business concepts and I wish them the best. I was merely
> trying to respond to the blatent accusation that sat radio
> is killing terrestrial. Just untrue!
>
> I agree that my assertion that 300 million people use AM/FM
> everyday was extreme. I will, however disagree that the only
> money making demo is 25-45. For the cluster I work in, our
> biggest money maker is Urban. We don't market it to 25-45
> by any means... in fact i'd be suprised if anyone over 30
> listens anytime other than morning drive (a very popular
> local morning show).
>
> For those of us who work in terrestrial radio, I think we
> can agree that no one is running around pulling their hair
> out about lost revenue to XM.
>
> I'm much more threatened by the IPOD/MP3 players than I am
> XM.
>
> I would also like to re-extend my invitation to silentgreg
> (irony in the name, huh?) to be among the XM/Sirius
> subscribers because frankly I tire of his incessant whining.
> If they are so great, why don't you tear the AM/FM set out
> of your car, and your house and replace it with a great XM
> or Sirius set. Oh, that's because then you couldn't
> complain!
>
> If you want to let a station know how you feel, send them a
> nice e-mail letting them know things you would like to hear!
> Point out that you fall in the demo and that you'd love to
> give your loyalty to that station! When a station does
> something right, tell them! An e-mail that is positive will
> certainly not hit the bit-bucket as fast as an e-mail that
> starts out with "Do you know how bad you suck, let me name
> the ways".
>
> Terrestrial radio needs a swift kick in the pants, no
> doubt... but whining on an internet radio forum is hardly
> the way to make changes.
>
> As for cable TV, you are correct... but somehow broadcast TV
> has managed to stay on the air and be quite profitable.
> They still offer something people want to see FOR FREE. So
> you only get 22 minutes of programming out of 30.. so what!
> Go make some coffee, turn the volume down and talk to your
> kids... oh and find a mainstream cable channel that doesn't
> have advertising!
>
> Movies and radio survived television, television has
> survived cable and sattelite, and radio will survive
> satelite too..
>
Radio will definitely survive satellite...but it will have to be reborn. Another example is FM versus AM. AM is still around, but is it used the same as it was 40 years ago? The example of broadcast tv surviving is not a good one. Broadcast TV survived by getting picked up and put on the air on cable. How many houses do you see those 20 foot antennae on these days?
I will disagree with you firmly on one thing...if you are working for a true urban formatted radio station, your core audience is the 25 to 45. Ask your local sales manager which figures he pulls the ratings for when talking to his clients. Ask the program director what kind of listener he is thinking of when he makes his programming decisions. If they aren't focused on the 25 to 45 demo on an urban format, I would be extremely surprised.
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www.montgomerytvandradio.com</P>
Ask the program director what kind of listener he
> is thinking of when he makes his programming decisions. If
> they aren't focused on the 25 to 45 demo on an urban format,
> I would be extremely surprised.
>
We also have an Urban A/C that focuses more on the older demo (and does quite well, too)
Then again, maybe i'm wrong... it HAS happened before
> is thinking of when he makes his programming decisions. If
> they aren't focused on the 25 to 45 demo on an urban format,
> I would be extremely surprised.
>
We also have an Urban A/C that focuses more on the older demo (and does quite well, too)
Then again, maybe i'm wrong... it HAS happened before
I can't believe I end up pissing more people off again. All I was saying that the fm ratings won't be great due to more people switching to satellite radio and the decreasing confidence in major radio companies providing what the consumers want.
I don't need this. I quit.
I don't need this. I quit.
Greg, it is because of your history. All you ever do on this board is gripe and complain. you never make positive statements or add anything of value. You continually bloviate about how terrible terrestrial radio is! I think if I started a thread on what a beautiful day it is, you would argue that even though it is sunny and 85 degrees with low humidity, the day actually sucks because terrestrial radio doesn't satiate every craving for your niche.
Someone starts a thread about "Who's gonna be #1", and you say that no one should because XM and Sirius are superior to all.
When you start a thread you point it at negative to begin with! ("How many of you hate the kind of music they play at work? - SilentGreg")
How about, starting one like this "Anyone know of a great station that plays XYZ?" or "Why do you listen to your station of choice" "Anyone know of a great station somewhere with a 'net stream I might like?"
Guess what, Greg... this is a TERRESTRIAL RADIO BOARD... there is an XM board on this site as well as one for Sirius. I notice that you have not posted on either of them.
You also display a glaring lack of knowlege about radio stations. You say things like "...change Mixx 102.9 to go to completely alternative rock and pump up their signal..." Ya know, it's not like we in terrestrial radio can just go hit the "High Power" button and do that. There are years and years of filings and FCC red tape to get around before one can move towers, increase power or make any major facility changes.
My point in that last paragraph is this: It is insulting to me as a radio professional to see lackeys like you out crying about things you don't understand. You think too much. You place importance on yourself. This is a capitalistic venture. We are in this to make money. If we can't prove that we can make money in Guntersville Alabama with a rock station, then we aren't going to target Guntersville for a rock station. I used to live very near Guntersville. We aren't talking about a very "Hip" town. Country, AC and religious programming are the fare that makes the $$$$$ in a town like that. Huntsville and Bham stations probably don't care much about G'ville because they don't get advertisers that far out.
I'm not saying it's not okay to get on here and vent some of your frustrations, but I have looked back through many of your posts and I could not find one single time that you said "hey, they did that well" (I didn't read the ones where you posted about the simpsons or something like that, not relevant to our conversation). Every time you post, I can almost bet money before the page even loads that I know what you are going to say.
You don't want change, you want to complain. That is useless and immature.
Now... Good day...
I SAID GOOD DAY!
> I can't believe I end up pissing more people off again. All
> I was saying that the fm ratings won't be great due to more
> people switching to satellite radio and the decreasing
> confidence in major radio companies providing what the
> consumers want.
>
> I don't need this. I quit.
>
Someone starts a thread about "Who's gonna be #1", and you say that no one should because XM and Sirius are superior to all.
When you start a thread you point it at negative to begin with! ("How many of you hate the kind of music they play at work? - SilentGreg")
How about, starting one like this "Anyone know of a great station that plays XYZ?" or "Why do you listen to your station of choice" "Anyone know of a great station somewhere with a 'net stream I might like?"
Guess what, Greg... this is a TERRESTRIAL RADIO BOARD... there is an XM board on this site as well as one for Sirius. I notice that you have not posted on either of them.
You also display a glaring lack of knowlege about radio stations. You say things like "...change Mixx 102.9 to go to completely alternative rock and pump up their signal..." Ya know, it's not like we in terrestrial radio can just go hit the "High Power" button and do that. There are years and years of filings and FCC red tape to get around before one can move towers, increase power or make any major facility changes.
My point in that last paragraph is this: It is insulting to me as a radio professional to see lackeys like you out crying about things you don't understand. You think too much. You place importance on yourself. This is a capitalistic venture. We are in this to make money. If we can't prove that we can make money in Guntersville Alabama with a rock station, then we aren't going to target Guntersville for a rock station. I used to live very near Guntersville. We aren't talking about a very "Hip" town. Country, AC and religious programming are the fare that makes the $$$$$ in a town like that. Huntsville and Bham stations probably don't care much about G'ville because they don't get advertisers that far out.
I'm not saying it's not okay to get on here and vent some of your frustrations, but I have looked back through many of your posts and I could not find one single time that you said "hey, they did that well" (I didn't read the ones where you posted about the simpsons or something like that, not relevant to our conversation). Every time you post, I can almost bet money before the page even loads that I know what you are going to say.
You don't want change, you want to complain. That is useless and immature.
Now... Good day...
I SAID GOOD DAY!
> I can't believe I end up pissing more people off again. All
> I was saying that the fm ratings won't be great due to more
> people switching to satellite radio and the decreasing
> confidence in major radio companies providing what the
> consumers want.
>
> I don't need this. I quit.
>
R
RDP
Guest
> Greg, it is because of your history. All you ever do on this
> board is gripe and complain. you never make positive
> statements or add anything of value. You continually
> bloviate about how terrible terrestrial radio is! I think
> if I started a thread on what a beautiful day it is, you
> would argue that even though it is sunny and 85 degrees with
> low humidity, the day actually sucks because terrestrial
> radio doesn't satiate every craving for your niche.
>
> Someone starts a thread about "Who's gonna be #1", and you
> say that no one should because XM and Sirius are superior to
> all.
>
> When you start a thread you point it at negative to begin
> with! ("How many of you hate the kind of music they play at
> work? - SilentGreg")
>
> How about, starting one like this "Anyone know of a great
> station that plays XYZ?" or "Why do you listen to your
> station of choice" "Anyone know of a great station somewhere
> with a 'net stream I might like?"
>
> Guess what, Greg... this is a TERRESTRIAL RADIO BOARD...
> there is an XM board on this site as well as one for Sirius.
> I notice that you have not posted on either of them.
>
> You also display a glaring lack of knowlege about radio
> stations. You say things like "...change Mixx 102.9 to go to
> completely alternative rock and pump up their signal..." Ya
> know, it's not like we in terrestrial radio can just go hit
> the "High Power" button and do that. There are years and
> years of filings and FCC red tape to get around before one
> can move towers, increase power or make any major facility
> changes.
>
> My point in that last paragraph is this: It is insulting to
> me as a radio professional to see lackeys like you out
> crying about things you don't understand. You think too
> much. You place importance on yourself. This is a
> capitalistic venture. We are in this to make money. If we
> can't prove that we can make money in Guntersville Alabama
> with a rock station, then we aren't going to target
> Guntersville for a rock station. I used to live very near
> Guntersville. We aren't talking about a very "Hip" town.
> Country, AC and religious programming are the fare that
> makes the $$$$$ in a town like that. Huntsville and Bham
> stations probably don't care much about G'ville because they
> don't get advertisers that far out.
>
> I'm not saying it's not okay to get on here and vent some of
> your frustrations, but I have looked back through many of
> your posts and I could not find one single time that you
> said "hey, they did that well" (I didn't read the ones where
> you posted about the simpsons or something like that, not
> relevant to our conversation). Every time you post, I can
> almost bet money before the page even loads that I know what
> you are going to say.
>
> You don't want change, you want to complain. That is
> useless and immature.
>
> Now... Good day...
> I SAID GOOD DAY!
I predict that Jack 104.9 in the York Alabama and Meridian Mississippi area, will soon be a top 5 contender, once people discover this station.
West Alabama has never had anything like this before and I predict that this station will soon have runaway success.
RDP <><
> board is gripe and complain. you never make positive
> statements or add anything of value. You continually
> bloviate about how terrible terrestrial radio is! I think
> if I started a thread on what a beautiful day it is, you
> would argue that even though it is sunny and 85 degrees with
> low humidity, the day actually sucks because terrestrial
> radio doesn't satiate every craving for your niche.
>
> Someone starts a thread about "Who's gonna be #1", and you
> say that no one should because XM and Sirius are superior to
> all.
>
> When you start a thread you point it at negative to begin
> with! ("How many of you hate the kind of music they play at
> work? - SilentGreg")
>
> How about, starting one like this "Anyone know of a great
> station that plays XYZ?" or "Why do you listen to your
> station of choice" "Anyone know of a great station somewhere
> with a 'net stream I might like?"
>
> Guess what, Greg... this is a TERRESTRIAL RADIO BOARD...
> there is an XM board on this site as well as one for Sirius.
> I notice that you have not posted on either of them.
>
> You also display a glaring lack of knowlege about radio
> stations. You say things like "...change Mixx 102.9 to go to
> completely alternative rock and pump up their signal..." Ya
> know, it's not like we in terrestrial radio can just go hit
> the "High Power" button and do that. There are years and
> years of filings and FCC red tape to get around before one
> can move towers, increase power or make any major facility
> changes.
>
> My point in that last paragraph is this: It is insulting to
> me as a radio professional to see lackeys like you out
> crying about things you don't understand. You think too
> much. You place importance on yourself. This is a
> capitalistic venture. We are in this to make money. If we
> can't prove that we can make money in Guntersville Alabama
> with a rock station, then we aren't going to target
> Guntersville for a rock station. I used to live very near
> Guntersville. We aren't talking about a very "Hip" town.
> Country, AC and religious programming are the fare that
> makes the $$$$$ in a town like that. Huntsville and Bham
> stations probably don't care much about G'ville because they
> don't get advertisers that far out.
>
> I'm not saying it's not okay to get on here and vent some of
> your frustrations, but I have looked back through many of
> your posts and I could not find one single time that you
> said "hey, they did that well" (I didn't read the ones where
> you posted about the simpsons or something like that, not
> relevant to our conversation). Every time you post, I can
> almost bet money before the page even loads that I know what
> you are going to say.
>
> You don't want change, you want to complain. That is
> useless and immature.
>
> Now... Good day...
> I SAID GOOD DAY!
I predict that Jack 104.9 in the York Alabama and Meridian Mississippi area, will soon be a top 5 contender, once people discover this station.
West Alabama has never had anything like this before and I predict that this station will soon have runaway success.
RDP <><
B
brian5
Guest
> > Greg, it is because of your history. All you ever do on
> this
> > board is gripe and complain. you never make positive
> > statements or add anything of value. You continually
> > bloviate about how terrible terrestrial radio is! I think
>
> > if I started a thread on what a beautiful day it is, you
> > would argue that even though it is sunny and 85 degrees
> with
> > low humidity, the day actually sucks because terrestrial
> > radio doesn't satiate every craving for your niche.
> >
> > Someone starts a thread about "Who's gonna be #1", and you
>
> > say that no one should because XM and Sirius are superior
> to
> > all.
> >
> > When you start a thread you point it at negative to begin
> > with! ("How many of you hate the kind of music they play
> at
> > work? - SilentGreg")
> >
> > How about, starting one like this "Anyone know of a great
> > station that plays XYZ?" or "Why do you listen to your
> > station of choice" "Anyone know of a great station
> somewhere
> > with a 'net stream I might like?"
> >
> > Guess what, Greg... this is a TERRESTRIAL RADIO BOARD...
> > there is an XM board on this site as well as one for
> Sirius.
> > I notice that you have not posted on either of them.
> >
> > You also display a glaring lack of knowlege about radio
> > stations. You say things like "...change Mixx 102.9 to go
> to
> > completely alternative rock and pump up their signal..."
> Ya
> > know, it's not like we in terrestrial radio can just go
> hit
> > the "High Power" button and do that. There are years and
> > years of filings and FCC red tape to get around before one
>
> > can move towers, increase power or make any major facility
>
> > changes.
> >
> > My point in that last paragraph is this: It is insulting
> to
> > me as a radio professional to see lackeys like you out
> > crying about things you don't understand. You think too
> > much. You place importance on yourself. This is a
> > capitalistic venture. We are in this to make money. If we
>
> > can't prove that we can make money in Guntersville Alabama
>
> > with a rock station, then we aren't going to target
> > Guntersville for a rock station. I used to live very near
> > Guntersville. We aren't talking about a very "Hip" town.
> > Country, AC and religious programming are the fare that
> > makes the $$$$$ in a town like that. Huntsville and Bham
> > stations probably don't care much about G'ville because
> they
> > don't get advertisers that far out.
> >
> > I'm not saying it's not okay to get on here and vent some
> of
> > your frustrations, but I have looked back through many of
> > your posts and I could not find one single time that you
> > said "hey, they did that well" (I didn't read the ones
> where
> > you posted about the simpsons or something like that, not
> > relevant to our conversation). Every time you post, I can
> > almost bet money before the page even loads that I know
> what
> > you are going to say.
> >
> > You don't want change, you want to complain. That is
> > useless and immature.
> >
> > Now... Good day...
> > I SAID GOOD DAY!
>
> I predict that Jack 104.9 in the York Alabama and Meridian
> Mississippi area, will soon be a top 5 contender, once
> people discover this station.
>
> West Alabama has never had anything like this before and I
> predict that this station will soon have runaway success.
>
> RDP <
>
How well does it penetrate Meridian? According to its service countour map it doesn't cover the whole city of Meridian, http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM201828.html. I could be wrong...but the old format was the lowest ranked FM in Meridian according to arbitrons 12+ numbers on radioandrecords.com and that could partially be signal related.
Check out the ratings for the Jack FM station in Jackson, MS. Their Jack formatted station is already taking the path taken by 80's music, urban gold, etc...all trendy formats that made great ratings success when first introduced but couldn't keep the listeners.
You could be correct though that Meridian's Jack may jump into the top 5 for the next full ratings book. I don't know the market well enough. They have got to promote it big time for that to happen and the signal has got to cover the whole city. Holladay and Clear Channel will work hard to make sure it doesn't happen.
<P ID="signature">______________
Brian
www.montgomerytvandradio.com</P>
> this
> > board is gripe and complain. you never make positive
> > statements or add anything of value. You continually
> > bloviate about how terrible terrestrial radio is! I think
>
> > if I started a thread on what a beautiful day it is, you
> > would argue that even though it is sunny and 85 degrees
> with
> > low humidity, the day actually sucks because terrestrial
> > radio doesn't satiate every craving for your niche.
> >
> > Someone starts a thread about "Who's gonna be #1", and you
>
> > say that no one should because XM and Sirius are superior
> to
> > all.
> >
> > When you start a thread you point it at negative to begin
> > with! ("How many of you hate the kind of music they play
> at
> > work? - SilentGreg")
> >
> > How about, starting one like this "Anyone know of a great
> > station that plays XYZ?" or "Why do you listen to your
> > station of choice" "Anyone know of a great station
> somewhere
> > with a 'net stream I might like?"
> >
> > Guess what, Greg... this is a TERRESTRIAL RADIO BOARD...
> > there is an XM board on this site as well as one for
> Sirius.
> > I notice that you have not posted on either of them.
> >
> > You also display a glaring lack of knowlege about radio
> > stations. You say things like "...change Mixx 102.9 to go
> to
> > completely alternative rock and pump up their signal..."
> Ya
> > know, it's not like we in terrestrial radio can just go
> hit
> > the "High Power" button and do that. There are years and
> > years of filings and FCC red tape to get around before one
>
> > can move towers, increase power or make any major facility
>
> > changes.
> >
> > My point in that last paragraph is this: It is insulting
> to
> > me as a radio professional to see lackeys like you out
> > crying about things you don't understand. You think too
> > much. You place importance on yourself. This is a
> > capitalistic venture. We are in this to make money. If we
>
> > can't prove that we can make money in Guntersville Alabama
>
> > with a rock station, then we aren't going to target
> > Guntersville for a rock station. I used to live very near
> > Guntersville. We aren't talking about a very "Hip" town.
> > Country, AC and religious programming are the fare that
> > makes the $$$$$ in a town like that. Huntsville and Bham
> > stations probably don't care much about G'ville because
> they
> > don't get advertisers that far out.
> >
> > I'm not saying it's not okay to get on here and vent some
> of
> > your frustrations, but I have looked back through many of
> > your posts and I could not find one single time that you
> > said "hey, they did that well" (I didn't read the ones
> where
> > you posted about the simpsons or something like that, not
> > relevant to our conversation). Every time you post, I can
> > almost bet money before the page even loads that I know
> what
> > you are going to say.
> >
> > You don't want change, you want to complain. That is
> > useless and immature.
> >
> > Now... Good day...
> > I SAID GOOD DAY!
>
> I predict that Jack 104.9 in the York Alabama and Meridian
> Mississippi area, will soon be a top 5 contender, once
> people discover this station.
>
> West Alabama has never had anything like this before and I
> predict that this station will soon have runaway success.
>
> RDP <
>
How well does it penetrate Meridian? According to its service countour map it doesn't cover the whole city of Meridian, http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM201828.html. I could be wrong...but the old format was the lowest ranked FM in Meridian according to arbitrons 12+ numbers on radioandrecords.com and that could partially be signal related.
Check out the ratings for the Jack FM station in Jackson, MS. Their Jack formatted station is already taking the path taken by 80's music, urban gold, etc...all trendy formats that made great ratings success when first introduced but couldn't keep the listeners.
You could be correct though that Meridian's Jack may jump into the top 5 for the next full ratings book. I don't know the market well enough. They have got to promote it big time for that to happen and the signal has got to cover the whole city. Holladay and Clear Channel will work hard to make sure it doesn't happen.
<P ID="signature">______________
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www.montgomerytvandradio.com</P>
B
brian5
Guest
> Anyone care to speculate on this fall's ratings in
> Birmingham, Huntsville and Dothan?
>
Back to the original post...I am not too familiar with Huntsville or Dothan, but I can give you a prediction for Birmingham...
WBHK-FM SAME - no changes
WBHJ-FM SAME - no changes
WDXB-FM UP - #1 country
WZRR-FM UP - only "rock" station left in Bham
WQEN-FM DOWN - on the CHR roller coaster
WYSF-FM SAME - rick and bubba station, must do something in rest of the day
WENN-FM SAME - topped out in listeners
WMJJ-FM UP - christmas music
WZZK-FM DOWN - blew out staff, listeners head to bull
WBPT-FM UP - change to classic hits will improve over 80's
WDJC-FM DOWN - philsophical change, same format, different goals
WUHT-FM SAME - no changes
WJOX-AM UP - Sports in the fall=football and increased ratings
WERC-AM SAME - Finebaum saves the station
WAGG-AM SAME - topped out for AM
WYDE-FM SAME - won't improve in ratings till receives direction
WAPI-AM SAME - No compelling reason to listen yet
WRAX-FM DOWN - Tuscaloosa station out of touch with listners
WNCB-FM SAME - 3rd country station, topped out, no personality
Just my thoughts...
<P ID="signature">______________
Brian
www.montgomerytvandradio.com</P>
> Birmingham, Huntsville and Dothan?
>
Back to the original post...I am not too familiar with Huntsville or Dothan, but I can give you a prediction for Birmingham...
WBHK-FM SAME - no changes
WBHJ-FM SAME - no changes
WDXB-FM UP - #1 country
WZRR-FM UP - only "rock" station left in Bham
WQEN-FM DOWN - on the CHR roller coaster
WYSF-FM SAME - rick and bubba station, must do something in rest of the day
WENN-FM SAME - topped out in listeners
WMJJ-FM UP - christmas music
WZZK-FM DOWN - blew out staff, listeners head to bull
WBPT-FM UP - change to classic hits will improve over 80's
WDJC-FM DOWN - philsophical change, same format, different goals
WUHT-FM SAME - no changes
WJOX-AM UP - Sports in the fall=football and increased ratings
WERC-AM SAME - Finebaum saves the station
WAGG-AM SAME - topped out for AM
WYDE-FM SAME - won't improve in ratings till receives direction
WAPI-AM SAME - No compelling reason to listen yet
WRAX-FM DOWN - Tuscaloosa station out of touch with listners
WNCB-FM SAME - 3rd country station, topped out, no personality
Just my thoughts...
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