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President's Televised Address

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cc333 said:
And long before California actually tried (successfully) to do it.
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And do you know why California was able to ban gasoline chain saws? Not the fact that they used gasoline, but the fact that they were so noisy. This was approved due to NIMBY influence from people who did not want those noisy devices running near them... with the fossil fuel leaf and grass blower the next target.
 
davideduardo said:
And do you know why California was able to ban gasoline chain saws? Not the fact that they used gasoline, but the fact that they were so noisy. This was approved due to NIMBY influence from people who did not want those noisy devices running near them... with the fossil fuel leaf and grass blower the next target.
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Yup.

Those NIMBYs are in part what makes living in so many parts of the SF Bay Area so untenable. They just don't want to accept anything new, and they seem to be at war with anything that burns fuel and makes noise.

For example, the east bay city I was living in passed a ban on gas leaf blowers a couple years ago, and while that's fine and good, the electric blowers they expect everyone to now use cost more and do less. And they're not necessarily quieter (many models make an annoying whining sound when run at or near full speed, which is about the only speed that actually works for anything), although they don't stink and they don't pollute the environment, so yay, I guess?

That being said, I'd rather put up with such annoyances than go back to how things were before the EPA in the early 1970s, with smog so thick you could barely breathe sometimes and toxic waste of all kinds being dumped into waterways with little regard for the health and safety of the people and wildlife who rely on those waterways for all sorts of things. I feel like they're going too far the other way now.

So, in summary, I think there's a balance. Regulators did too little back then, and now perhaps they're trying to do too much. Rolling back all regulations at once is not a good solution, however. Especially when it's done out of spite.

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TheBigA said:
My portfolio has lost a lot of money in the last month, so I'm expecting him to say something that will help.
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The market gained back a lot of its losses on Tuesday. Presumably a lot of trading was happening by members of Congress and the president's colleagues ahead of the public announcement again.
 
Theater of My Mind said:
The market gained back a lot of its losses on Tuesday. Presumably a lot of trading was happening by members of Congress and the president's colleagues ahead of the public announcement again.
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An economist at Deutsche Bank came up with a "Trump Pressure Index" based on things like stocks, crude oil prices, U.S. gas prices, Treasury bonds and so on.

There is a pattern, and a tipping point - every time oil goes over a certain figure, Trump will release a social media statement that the war is "done" to try and cool oil. That worked for a few weeks, and then stopped working. A televised press conference seems like an attempt to calm the oil price again (which nearly hit $120 yesterday) given that posting on Truth Social isn't working any more.

www.ft.com

Iran war tests Donald Trump’s tolerance for ‘pain’ in oil market

US president appears to make abrupt policy pivots based on swings in crude prices
www.ft.com www.ft.com

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TheBigA said:
The president will make another televised address Wednesday night. He says it will be about Iran:

www.nbcnews.com

Trump to address the nation with 'important' update on the Iran war

Trump will speak at 9 p.m. ET Wednesday after he said he expects the U.S. to leave Iran "soon."
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com

My portfolio has lost a lot of money in the last month, so I'm expecting him to say something that will help.
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Your portfolio may not be the only thing you will lose after tonight's address. Leaving the current Iranian leadership (which is arguably worse than those he killed) in power is a sure way of inviting another 9/11 into the U.S. And leaving the Strait of Hormuz in Iranian hands after all of the killing he's done over there sure isn't going to help our own oil companies. I really hope, for the sake of our own nation, that our media is willing to call him out on this and other destructive behaviors he's done.
 
ted chittenden said:
Your portfolio may not be the only thing you will lose after tonight's address. Leaving the current Iranian leadership (which is arguably worse than those he killed) in power is a sure way of inviting another 9/11 into the U.S. And leaving the Strait of Hormuz in Iranian hands after all of the killing he's done over there sure isn't going to help our own oil companies. I really hope, for the sake of our own nation, that our media is willing to call him out on this and other destructive behaviors he's done.
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I don't think it is possible to overstate the anger felt towards the President, and in turn the USA from citizens of other countries, especially those who were just starting to see some economic improvements after a tough few years before he decided, seemingly at random, to go bomb crazy. It will be hard for American interests to regain trust from allies after this debacle.

A process is starting to take shape of an economic and political decoupling from America among allies. Maybe that was the intention all along of "America First", maybe America doesn't need us, but it's sad to see our American friends go in this direction. Among much of the public, they are not seen much differently to Russia or China now - self interested powers best kept at arms length, something to protect ourselves from rather than something we can rely on for protection.
 
“My portfolio.”

I’m a hell of a lot more worried about the future for my kids, their kids, and people all over the world. His lies and the insider trading manipulation may make his cronies richer through manipulation, and maybe as a byproduct some other portfolios see a supposed benefit. But none of that matters one bit when we’re destroying our environment, starting illegal wars, gleefully enacting policies designed to kill people and making the lives of the marginalized worse.

This propaganda has no legitimate reason to be on network television, but they will dutifully slobber all over it. They’ll pretend it isn’t just another lie-filled rant with no tether to reality. Because at the major outlets, actual journalism is dead.
 
Miss Tuned said:
I don't think it is possible to overstate the anger felt towards the President, and in turn the USA from citizens of other countries, especially those who were just starting to see some economic improvements after a tough few years before he decided, seemingly at random, to go bomb crazy. It will be hard for American interests to regain trust from allies after this debacle.
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I don't think it's practical to represent that MANY Americans feel the same way about the current individual that lives in that big, white house in D.C.

But, hey, we're still *winning*, right?

Look at the date today - any significance? 🃏
 
TheBigA said:
The president will make another televised address Wednesday night. He says it will be about Iran:

www.nbcnews.com

Trump to address the nation with 'important' update on the Iran war

Trump will speak at 9 p.m. ET Wednesday after he said he expects the U.S. to leave Iran "soon."
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com

My portfolio has lost a lot of money in the last month, so I'm expecting him to say something that will help.
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"The new Iranian leader, President Kushner, has asked for a ceasefire. And don't EVEN THINK you're going to be allowed to vote the GOP out in the midterms."
 
TheBigA said:
What would you like them to say that would make any difference?
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After every sentence he utters, a fact check should appear on the screen stating what is, and isn't, true in that sentence. After the speech is over, for those like me who can't read what is on the screen, the "talking heads" should immediately *and* forcefully break down his speech explaining each and every lie that was uttered and why it was a lie.

and this should occur after *every* speech he gives from now until his presidency is terminated. I can't say anymore without possibly being removed from this site.
 
ted chittenden said:
After every sentence he utters, a fact check should appear on the screen stating what is, and isn't, true in that sentence.
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They tried doing that in the first term, and there simply isn't enough time or space. Several major newspapers do a running commentary, in real time, that does what you want. It simply works better in print.

ted chittenden said:
the "talking heads" should immediately *and* forcefully break down his speech explaining each and every lie that was uttered and why it was a lie.
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It depends on the channel. Some will, and some won't. Freedom of the press. He can say whatever he wants, and so can the press.

The president himself is his own worst enemy. They will write a 10 minute speech for him, and he will turn it into a 20 minute unhinged rant. We don't need the media to tell us what we just saw. We're all adults and we know when we've just watched a disaster.

This president knows what good TV is, and yet these speeches are bad TV. Lecturing people on TV isn't good for ratings. People are getting tired of the act.
 
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