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Problem with HD Radio sales

I was in a mall yesterday and happened to be walking by a Radio Shack when I noticed they had a display in the window of the Boston Acoustics HD Radio. I stopped in to see how it sounded. Unfortunately, I couldn't get any HD signals at all. The salesman told me it had been set up right earlier in the day, but obviously something had been changed. He wasn't sure what was wrong.

He then did his best "sales" job. He told me the radio itself was very good. He said HD radio sounds pretty good. He said the difference in FM stations was not as big as some might think. He said there's less noise in the signal and you can hear different programming on some of the stations. He'd never been able to pick up an AM station for comparison since the store is inside a mall. He showed me how good the radio sounded by tuning it to the spot on the dail where they had their Sirius satellite radio adapter tuned in. It was quite nice. He of course then showed me the Sirius display which was right next to the HD radio display.

There are, of course, many problems with an experience like this. For one thing, the store couldn't demonstrate to me (or anyone else) what great thing I'll get for plunking down $300 for this radio. If you've got an HD radio on display, you better be able to show off HD radio stations. This is akin to trying to get someone to spend $5,000 on an HDTV when all you can show is a snowy analog pictue of a black and white film.

Furthermore, if the only thing I can hear on the HD radio is how good satellite radio sounds, why on earth wouldn't I just buy a satellite radio?

Finally, if all the sales guy is able to do is tell me how good HD sounds, he needs to do a better sales job with it. You can't just say there's less noise in the background and the difference in FM isn't that great. Tell people you were impressed that there's no noise and it sounds like a CD. Let them judge for themselves whether the difference is a big one or not. Of course, you would have to be able to let them do that on their own by having the radio working right to begin with.

I'm sure there are better sales efforts going on elsewhere with consumers able to listen to the difference and being sold on the benefits.
However, experiences like the one I had are probably more common than they should be and probably permanently turn off many consumers who might otherwise adopt this technology. It's just not a good sign for the HD radio proponents.
 
I would be interested, if RS was using the long-wire, or 7-foot dipole antenna ?
 
"analogAMforever"


David Sarnoff, have you returned from the dead to be proven wrong once again?
 
analogAMforever said:
I would be interested, if RS was using the long-wire, or 7-foot dipole antenna ?

Well, that was the odd thing. The radio was hooked into some kind of coax cable that I assume went to an antenna somewhere. I don't know if that was to the roof or what. I suspect that somewhere along the way the connection had been undone somehow.
 
I bet they had it to an the external dipole - I wonder, how many people are not going to realize this situation, not ask the salesman, then return it once they get it home and find out it has lousy reception. I would love to be able to see the return figures for RS and Amazon - I bet they are pretty high.
 
I also tried the display HD radio at my local Radio Shack and found it connected to a dipole. It was pulling in only analog from the the local AM or FM stations that are in HD. But NO HD at all! Only weak analog FM and NOISE on AM band. Great demo! The Sirius display was nice and clean and hooked up to a remote antenna someplace outside. Tried the same visit at other local Radio Shack's and none of the other stores visited had a single HD radio. One had a display but no radio, and the rest were aware of HD but said you would need to order from RS web site.
What most people would want are car HD radios, but Radio Shack doesn't know anything about car radios! Some Best Buys have HD adapters but the sales people "haven't sold one" and know little about them. I think HD may help XM/Sirius as the sales people always point out the big sat. displays when you mention "HD." Nice reverse "bait and switch" to a lower priced product---sat. radio!
 
Ray22 said:
I also tried the display HD radio at my local Radio Shack and found it connected to a dipole. It was pulling in only analog from the the local AM or FM stations that are in HD. But NO HD at all! Only weak analog FM and NOISE on AM band. Great demo! The Sirius display was nice and clean and hooked up to a remote antenna someplace outside. Tried the same visit at other local Radio Shack's and none of the other stores visited had a single HD radio. One had a display but no radio, and the rest were aware of HD but said you would need to order from RS web site.
What most people would want are car HD radios, but Radio Shack doesn't know anything about car radios! Some Best Buys have HD adapters but the sales people "haven't sold one" and know little about them. I think HD may help XM/Sirius as the sales people always point out the big sat. displays when you mention "HD." Nice reverse "bait and switch" to a lower priced product---sat. radio!

Yep, just the way people ran out and got sat radio when it first came out!

As for not selling any, write to Crutchfield and ask how many they've sold.
 
I was in Radio Shack the other day too and the HD Radio wasn't even plugged in. Neither was the Sirius Radio too. Instead they had MTV on. Radio Shack has to get the ball rollin. Start showing off HD Radio and Sirius.
 
Ray22: "I also tried the display HD radio at my local Radio Shack and found it connected to a dipole. It was pulling in only analog from the the local AM or FM stations that are in HD. But NO HD at all! Only weak analog FM and NOISE on AM band. Great demo! The Sirius display was nice and clean and hooked up to a remote antenna someplace outside. Tried the same visit at other local Radio Shack's and none of the other stores visited had a single HD radio. One had a display but no radio, and the rest were aware of HD but said you would need to order from RS web site. What most people would want are car HD radios, but Radio Shack doesn't know anything about car radios! Some Best Buys have HD adapters but the sales people "haven't sold one" and know little about them. I think HD may help XM/Sirius as the sales people always point out the big sat. displays when you mention "HD." Nice reverse "bait and switch" to a lower priced product---sat. radio!"

Glad to hear that - I was figuring the whole HD Radio setup at RS would be a big farse ! I did read an article, that predicted the HD Radio demos would only serve to drive customers to the Satellite Radio displays !
 
cheffo200: "I was in Radio Shack the other day too and the HD Radio wasn't even plugged in. Neither was the Sirius Radio too. Instead they had MTV on. Radio Shack has to get the ball rollin. Start showing off HD Radio and Sirius."

The Receptor HD, at Besy Buy, wasn't plugged in either - I had to get the saleman to plug it in. It had the supplied long-wire antenna, but I could only get two FM stations, and the analog boom-boxes sounded much better. This whole HD Radio thing is going to be a joke - this just goes to show, that even retailers aren't taking HD Radio seriously, don't even know anything about it, and probably don't care to.
 
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