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Proof that hearing Hotel California repeatedly will drive you crazy

Does anyone have a playlist showing the times of each track played on KRTH from 10 or so years ago? I'm curious to see how many times that over-played tired track was played then. KRTH was owned by a different company then correct? CBS does have a reputation for tight playlist rotations. The only station today owned by CBS that I actually love and is one of my favorites is WOCL-FM (105-9 Sunny FM) in Orlando, which plays classic hits. MUCH better than K-EARTH. No offense to anyone.
 
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Ten years ago Jay Coffey was the PD of KRTH. The station at that time had a very tight rotation of 1964-1972 oldies so I doubt Hotel California was played at all.
 
RadioFaninTexas said:
Does anyone have a playlist showing the times of each track played on KRTH from 10 or so years ago? I'm curious to see how many times that over-played tired track was played then. KRTH was owned by a different company then correct? CBS does have a reputation for tight playlist rotations. The only station today owned by CBS that I actually love and is one of my favorites is WOCL-FM (105-9 Sunny FM) in Orlando, which plays classic hits. MUCH better than K-EARTH. No offense to anyone.
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CBS has owned KRTH since 1996. While CBS merged with Viacom in 2000, it remained in the CBS Radio division.

I went back exactly 10 years. Here is what I can see:

The playlist was 411 songs in 2004.. In the last two months of 2014, when the station was #1 or #2 they played 300 different songs in any given 7 day period.

No America songs were played at all in 2004; it was pure 60's stuff.

The most played songs played about 25 times a week. Surpise... just about the same as the rotations today.

Top spins were songs by
Fontella Bass
Sonny & Cher
Artetha
Marvin Gaye
Toys
Orbison
Lovin' Spoonfull
Temptations
Supremes
Ronnettes
Stevie
 
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Ten years ago Jay Coffey was the PD of KRTH. The station at that time had a very tight rotation of 1964-1972 oldies so I doubt Hotel California was played at all.
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The playlist in the last week of July, 2004 was 411 songs. In the same period of 2014 they played 300 songs.

In 2004, the list has no America songs and it was almost pure 60's.


Jhani Kaye began in January of 2006 at KRTH. By July of that year, the playlist was 683 songs.
 
David, by any chance do you know which of Roy Orbison's ten top-ten hits were being played on KRTH in 2004? Did they play Crying and In Dreams and It's Over and Mean Woman Blues and.....Oh, never mind. I just remembered. The only Roy Orbison song KRTH played was Oh Pretty Woman. And this was the station with the slogan "All the great oldies." "All"? More like "One percent."
 
I'm sure Brown Eyed Girl was aired six times a day instead of three, 10 years ago! Much like what they are doing with Hotel California. Can't stand it either, hearing it 500 times a year on my local classic hits and semi-local soft rock stations. (Yes, Yakima has NO Soft Rock station!)

-crainbebo
 
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David, by any chance do you know which of Roy Orbison's ten top-ten hits were being played on KRTH in 2004? Did they play Crying and In Dreams and It's Over and Mean Woman Blues and.....Oh, never mind. I just remembered. The only Roy Orbison song KRTH played was Oh Pretty Woman. And this was the station with the slogan "All the great oldies." "All"? More like "One percent."
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They didn't even play "Only the Lonely". And I sure hope the BigA isn't inferring that these other titles aren't great. They're not just great, they are, to use a phrase "legendary". Don't think so? Here is a trivia question for you. Who is the only performer Elvis Presley said he would never go on after? You guessed it. If Elvis knows, then K-Earth should have known too.

Unfortunately, this isn't the first time Roy has been dissed on this board. A few years back David E. claimed the only reason his 1989 Mystery Girl album succeeded was because of his work with the Traveling Wilburys. Anyone who has actually heard the album knows that is pure nonsense.

For those who may be younger and don't know what I am talking about, check out Roy Orbison and Friends, A Black and White Night, a concert special featuring Roy and several contemporary artists paying tribute to him which was filmed about a year before his death in 1988. You'll be glad you did.
 
crainbebo said:
I'm sure Brown Eyed Girl was aired six times a day instead of three, 10 years ago!
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You should not be so sure of things that have been accurately memorialized.

I checked KRTH on BDS for 8 random weeks in the middle of 2004, and Brown Eyed Girl played at the most 17 times a week and at the least 10 times with the average thus being two times a day, including overnights.
 
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David, by any chance do you know which of Roy Orbison's ten top-ten hits were being played on KRTH in 2004? Did they play Crying and In Dreams and It's Over and Mean Woman Blues and.....Oh, never mind. I just remembered. The only Roy Orbison song KRTH played was Oh Pretty Woman. And this was the station with the slogan "All the great oldies." "All"? More like "One percent."
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In 2004, sampling different mid-year periods, "Oh Pretty Woman" was played on average 18 times a week. No other song by Orbison was played.
 
ChannelFlipper said:
They didn't even play "Only the Lonely". And I sure hope the BigA isn't inferring that these other titles aren't great. They're not just great, they are, to use a phrase "legendary". Don't think so? Here is a trivia question for you. Who is the only performer Elvis Presley said he would never go on after? You guessed it. If Elvis knows, then K-Earth should have known too.
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The problem is that we are talking about airplay in 2004. Elvis died over 25 years before that. What concerned Elvis prior to 1977 was not of any importance to a radio station in LA in 2004.

Unfortunately, this isn't the first time Roy has been dissed on this board. A few years back David E. claimed the only reason his 1989 Mystery Girl album succeeded was because of his work with the Traveling Wilburys. Anyone who has actually heard the album knows that is pure nonsense.
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The Wilburys experience made Orbison relevant and cool again at a time when he was about two decades away from his last Top 40 hit. That relevance set the stage for the album to be notices, something that would have been unlikely without that credit in his résumé.
 
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The Wilburys experience made Orbison relevant and cool again at a time when he was about two decades away from his last Top 40 hit. That relevance set the stage for the album to be notices, something that would have been unlikely without that credit in his résumé.
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That is like saying the Beatles paved the way for British Invasion that gave us the Stones, The Who and the Kinks. Nothing in life happens in a vacuum.
 
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That is like saying the Beatles paved the way for British Invasion that gave us the Stones, The Who and the Kinks. Nothing in life happens in a vacuum.
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Poor simile.

The Beatles opened a door, and hundreds of their countrymen filed in right behind them because Top 40 / Pop was ready for a new sound. And many of those artists already had hits and a track record in England. The Beatles were agents of change.

Nobody was milling around wondering what Roy Orbison would do next. He popped up on the musical radar only because he did something that made people notice and like him... thus setting the stage for his great new album.
 
His 1989 hit "You Got It", released one year after Orbison's death, was a hit on the AC charts, hitting #1. Also was top 10 on the Billboard County Charts. Hardly hear any ACs playing "You Got It" anymore. Just like all these other AC stations out here (except for a selected few - already talked about the "Sierra Wave" and there's several Soft ACs that are not who I am talking about) they would much rather play "Rolling in the Deep," "Roar" and "When I Was Your Man" to death, 3 times a day, every day - with a sprinkling of burnt to a crisp 80s stuff.

-crainbebo
 
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His 1989 hit "You Got It", released one year after Orbison's death, was a hit on the AC charts, hitting #1. Also was top 10 on the Billboard County Charts. Hardly hear any ACs playing "You Got It" anymore. Just like all these other AC stations out here (except for a selected few - already talked about the "Sierra Wave" and there's several Soft ACs that are not who I am talking about) they would much rather play "Rolling in the Deep," "Roar" and "When I Was Your Man" to death, 3 times a day, every day - with a sprinkling of burnt to a crisp 80s stuff.

-crainbebo
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"They" would rather play precisely what the audience says it wants to hear. And in a business predicated on selling the largest slice of a desired audience to the paying customers, why would they not do precisely that?
 
Radio stations don't program to people who post on radio boards. You armchair PDs should build your own station
in Pandora. You could build it around HOTEL CALIFORNIA if you like.
 
Seems to me the question here is the audience. The casual listener may well be curious as to why certain songs they may remember aren't being played any more, but they may also in fact be content to hear "Brown-Eyed Girl" or "Oh Pretty Woman" when they turn on the car radio for the commute home. The old farts and anoraks who hang around the used-vinyl shop grumble about the conspiratorial THEY who "won't let us" hear even the most obscure 50's oldies, as they dig in the crates for a copy of "Nanny-Nanny-Boo-Boo" by the Three Fourths with a maroon-label-not-a-purple-one. You can't please everybody.
 
The Wikipedia entry for "taunting" includes this:

"In modern Britain the chant 'Nyah, nyah, nyah-nyah, nyah' sung to the tune of Bye Baby Bunting is an insult among children. In the American South this is often used as 'Nanny nanny boo-boo' and repeated with words such as "You ca-an't catch me".

Now I've gotta find a copy of that song! Jeff, those of us who complain about dinky playlists are not "casual listeners." We grew up with KFWB, KRLA, KHJ, KDAY, KGBS, KIQQ, KTNQ, KKDJ, KIIS and other stations and we listened to every countdown show. We look at old music surveys and are dismayed to see that only three or four top-30 hits from any given week are still being played. The real "casual listeners" probably don't care. For some reason, they seem to enjoy listening to a station that tells them which songs they like.
 
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The real "casual listeners" probably don't care. For some reason, they seem to enjoy listening to a station that tells them which songs they like.
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Because those ARE the songs they like. We've been through this a thousand times. We survey listeners all over the country and find out what they like. They we play it. That's how it's done. They enjoy it because it's what they asked for. We give 'em what they want. It's not about what we don't play...it's what we DO play that makes the difference.
 
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A/C today is the Hot A/C of 5 or 10 years ago. "You Got It" doesn't fit into an A/C format these days.

In fact, check what the local Cumulus A/C has for their 'top songs"

http://wxkc.tunegenie.com/tophits/
 
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