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jimmyradio

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We all bash KNR relentlessly and deservedly so but today I think they deserve some credit. Roger Brown reported this morning that WKNR plans to air a high school football game of the week in the fall. Its about time a Cleveland station jumped on high school football play by play - they have it in Stark County.

Now that Ive given them credit for airing a high school football game of the week heres the important question. How do they screw this up? Im willing to bet Luzcak and company will do a masterful job of messing this up. Lemme see here. We'll probably get Neil Bender and Jim Isaballa as the broadcast team. Well there it goes. A great idea gone bad.

-jimmyradio
 
> We all bash KNR relentlessly and deservedly so but today I
> think they deserve some credit. Roger Brown reported this
> morning that WKNR plans to air a high school football game
> of the week in the fall. Its about time a Cleveland station
> jumped on high school football play by play - they have it
> in Stark County.
>
> Now that Ive given them credit for airing a high school
> football game of the week heres the important question. How
> do they screw this up? Im willing to bet Luzcak and company
> will do a masterful job of messing this up. Lemme see here.
> We'll probably get Neil Bender and Jim Isaballa as the
> broadcast team. Well there it goes. A great idea gone
> bad.

Jason Gibbs freelanced for WOBL/WDLW last year. Bob Karlovec worked at WEOL in the early 90's as a PBP guy. They should get a shot at being a part of the broadcast team.

Hell, why not call up Bob's former boss, Wally Mintus? Or dial up Metro's Chris Coleman, formerly of WEOL himself. They're both available.

I heard about this at the tail end of Izzy's Sat. morning show - with Gibbs and Gene Winters guest hosting for him, no less. Like you, I wonder just how Salem's ineptitude at 9446 Broadview will mess THIS up.

(Oh, I hate to beat the chest of Lorain County radio, but if you want to hear how high school football should be called, listen to both WEOL and WOBL/WDLW go at it in the fall...)

- nate81<P ID="signature">______________
Nathan Obral
University Partership Representative
Student Senate
Lorain County Community College, Elyria, Ohio

http://www.lorainccc.edu</P>
 
> I heard about this at the tail end of Izzy's Sat. morning
> show - with Gibbs and Gene Winters guest hosting for him, no
> less. Like you, I wonder just how Salem's ineptitude at 9446
> Broadview will mess THIS up.

Good question.

This is an excellent move, IMHO. High school football is "big enough" in Cleveland that a game a week doesn't sound too out of place on a sports station in a market this size. Heck, there are times watching Cleveland TV sports that I wonder if St. Ignatius and St. Ed's are not really college teams hiding in Cleveland private schools. ;)

And don't forget WVIZ/25's long-running coverage of HS football on Friday nights.

-OA
 
Exactly...the key is WHO do they get to do the play by play. I remember hearing sports veteran Jim Mueller do a Lakewood St. Ed's game awhile back and he was just awful. He said the score once every six or 8 minutes. I know this because I was driving as I listened. During the MAC basketball tournaments, we really can tell who can handle the p-b-p. Roda is not good. From what I remember Rich Passan wasn't too bad.

I am a Stark County native now living in Cleveland. Friday nights in the Massillon/Canton area are magical. People bring their radios to games to hear how the crosstown rivals are doing.
 
You're telling me no station in Cleveland airs high school football? 610 and 1230 in Columbus has been airing a high school game of the week on their stations for the past 4 or 5 years with a 90 minute post game show after the game. They will even air post season play on local teams, including championship games, on their sister AM station, and they sell out the advertising inventory with a title sponsor every year. I think a station in Cincinnati does High School games too! It's it profitable in Columbus, it sure can be in NE Ohio!



> > I heard about this at the tail end of Izzy's Sat. morning
> > show - with Gibbs and Gene Winters guest hosting for him,
> no
> > less. Like you, I wonder just how Salem's ineptitude at
> 9446
> > Broadview will mess THIS up.
>
> Good question.
>
> This is an excellent move, IMHO. High school football is
> "big enough" in Cleveland that a game a week doesn't sound
> too out of place on a sports station in a market this size.
> Heck, there are times watching Cleveland TV sports that I
> wonder if St. Ignatius and St. Ed's are not really college
> teams hiding in Cleveland private schools. ;)
>
> And don't forget WVIZ/25's long-running coverage of HS
> football on Friday nights.
>
> -OA
>
 
> > I heard about this at the tail end of Izzy's Sat. morning
> > show - with Gibbs and Gene Winters guest hosting for him,
> no
> > less. Like you, I wonder just how Salem's ineptitude at
> 9446
> > Broadview will mess THIS up.
>
> Good question.
>
> This is an excellent move, IMHO. High school football is
> "big enough" in Cleveland that a game a week doesn't sound
> too out of place on a sports station in a market this size.
> Heck, there are times watching Cleveland TV sports that I
> wonder if St. Ignatius and St. Ed's are not really college
> teams hiding in Cleveland private schools. ;)
>
> And don't forget WVIZ/25's long-running coverage of HS
> football on Friday nights.
>
> -OA
>

Last fall I seem to remember a game of the week on 1420 (maybe it was 1300?). Regardless, there is no reason why high school football in Cleveland shouldn't be radiocast--especially with the likes of St Eds, St Iggy's, Benedictine, Glenville, Strongsville, Brunswick, Lake Catholic, Solon, etc. in the area. Plus, the conferences are again being re-aligned, so the competition may get even bigger.

The key is for 850 to choose the RIGHT game of the week. One bad selection and it will blow their whole idea. St Eds vs. St Iggy's is a no-brainer. So is Strongsville vs. Brunswick. But the moment incompetence at 850 chooses bad team A vs. excellent team B instead of deadheat conference play, the game of the week will become farce of the week. There's really no reason to have a schedule before the season--pick by who's good each week, and PUBLICIZE THE HELL OUT OF IT! Promos, newspaper ads (people read the PD for High School Sports, and they read the local papers even more).

Also, I don't think Channel 25 does their HS games anymore. They did for a while after longtime PBP man Mike Massa died (early 90s), but I think it might eat into their now weekly pledge drives. Adelphia does show a game of the week, and repeats it.
 
TV High School Football in NE Ohio

> Also, I don't think Channel 25 does their HS games anymore.
> They did for a while after longtime PBP man Mike Massa died
> (early 90s), but I think it might eat into their now weekly
> pledge drives. Adelphia does show a game of the week, and
> repeats it.

Oh, forgot about that. (And I have Adelphia, and have seen a game or two on Ch. 15...)

If I'm not mistaken, PBS 45 & 49 basically took over that "game of the week" franchise, with a game produced for them by Classic Teleproductions. Though 45/49 are ostensibly Akron/Canton/Youngstown stations, I seem to recall that many of the games involve Cleveland area teams.

-OA
 
> You're telling me no station in Cleveland airs high school
> football? 610 and 1230 in Columbus has been airing a high
> school game of the week on their stations for the past 4 or
> 5 years with a 90 minute post game show after the game. They
> will even air post season play on local teams, including
> championship games, on their sister AM station, and they
> sell out the advertising inventory with a title sponsor
> every year. I think a station in Cincinnati does High School
> games too! It's it profitable in Columbus, it sure can be in
> NE Ohio!

St. Ed's and St. Ignatius both produce their own radio broadcasts - and apparently have done so for some time. Last year, the Salem/Cleveland cluster (WHKW/1220 for Ed's and WHK/1420 for Ignatius; spillover on WKNR) aired both teams. (IIRC, Eddy had Jim Muller as lead PBP man, while Ignatz had Al Pawalowski in the like role.)

STC.com also probably has had some high school football games in the past, too.

And yes, WSAI/1360 in Cincy has a "Friday Night Game of the Week."

- nate81<P ID="signature">______________
Nathan Obral
University Partership Representative
Student Senate
Lorain County Community College, Elyria, Ohio

http://www.lorainccc.edu</P>
 
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