Pros and Cons on Dave Ramsey

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These program directors who program ideology (as opposed to entertainment and information) feel that an advice show such as Ramsey's can fit into their "Conservative" and "Religious Right" talk lineup...
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I think you miss the point entirely. Most PD's don't program based on their ideology but on the what get them two things...ratings and revenue.

This guy is a just another self promoting fraud. He comes across as arrogant and condescending with his "better than I deserve" quip...Here in South Texas, he does commercials for anyone who will pay him to mouth out their sales pitches. There are some commercials, which do not air during HIS show's timeslot, which are somewhat contradictory to the 'advice' he vomits out.

This I find hard to believe. An AE I know told me that they had to jump through hoops recently to try and get an endorsement from Dave for an advertiser and at the end of the day Dave's people refused saying that the service didn't align with what Dave says on air. As for the spots airing outside of his show...what is wrong with that? If the advertiser wants to use a host endorsement they can buy placement wherever they want it. Plus...if I'm the station I love it because it places the host into a new daypart and maybe, in a way, helps promote the host.

Sometimes I think that people on this board 1. let their personal ideology outweigh the merits of a show/hosts success or 2. are just jealous that people like Dave and Dr. Laura can produce a show that is carried by hundreds of stations. Maybe your lack of success in market after market has you a bit bitter so you armchair quarterback and attack those who have made it.

Just a thought.

 

[The Ultimate Warrior]

Sometimes I think that people on this board 1. let their personal ideology outweigh the merits of a show/hosts success or 2. are just jealous that people like Dave and Dr. Laura can produce a show that is carried by hundreds of stations. Maybe your lack of success in market after market has you a bit bitter so you armchair quarterback and attack those who have made it.

Quoted for truth.

 

[gr8oldies]

Now if you want a less preachy consumer show, there is Clark Howard. Clark Howard does not do live reads or endorsements, and though he says he's a capatalist, he is in favor of some regulation (and closing down the payday loan industry). He can be a little dry but generally good information.

 

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These program directors who program ideology (as opposed to entertainment and information) feel that an advice show such as Ramsey's can fit into their "Conservative" and "Religious Right" talk lineup...


I think you miss the point entirely. Most PD's don't program based on their ideology but on the what get them two things...ratings and revenue.

No, sir. That's not what I said, at all. I talked about program directors programing an ideology. Not their ideology.

Some PD's are under the impression that in order for talk radio to win, it needs to be cater to a religious right audience. It doesn't It's been proven over and over again that it doesn't. Entertaining and Informative talk radio does. Rush wins because he entertains. Salem's talk radio syndication rarely wins because much of it is boring.

You'd be surprised at the number of PDs out their who are personally not in their audience when it comes to this stuff. I know a PD who puts this stuff on his station, but is politically liberal and gay. If his audience only knew, they might tune out the station entirely!

Sometimes I think that people on this board 1. let their personal ideology outweigh the merits of a show/hosts success or 2. are just jealous that people like Dave and Dr. Laura can produce a show that is carried by hundreds of stations. Maybe your lack of success in market after market has you a bit bitter so you armchair quarterback and attack those who have made it.

Just a thought.

Now, I know you don't mean me. I've had plenty of success and am certainly not bitter. I do quite well, only changing markets every few years when I get a better gig. Or sometimes I stay in the market when the boss offers me more money to stay.

 

[dustintv]

Can you smell the stereotyping? :

It's easy to sort out the hobbyists from the professionals on this board with trite comments such as the one above.

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Strike a nerve did I? White trash occurs everywhere. Those foreclosures in Charlotte and Atlanta and Florida just happen to be Yankee trash. Besides there are three minority groups that fared even worse in the home foreclosure crisis. Everyone suffered from either being misinformed, uninformed, and taken advantage of.

 

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Well, to me it just sounds fishy that a self-imposed "financial guru" would encourage people to spend money, probably money which they don't have, on vacation packages, home remodeling, landscaping, swimming pools, or any other unnecessary, non vital and expensive services or products (especially in this recessionary period), which would most likely require some sort of financing. Especially when he 'lectures' or admonishes those poor, brainless dolts who can't pay their bills with their 6 digit income. As I posted previously, what type of impression would be produced by a known chemical/substance abuse rehab talk show host or medical professional who advertises and/or endorses a liquor, beer, or tobacco company, or ads for bars, casinos, nightclubs, etc, outside of their program's timeslot? Why doesn't this fraud ever endorse sound financial products or services, safe investments or ways to stay out of debt and bankruptcy? Maybe those businesses know something you don't. And after having worked in the financial services field for over 15 years, I can smell a fraud when I see or hear one.

 

[The Ultimate Warrior]

Well, to me it just sounds fishy that a self-imposed "financial guru" would encourage people to spend money, probably money which they don't have, on vacation packages, home remodeling, landscaping, swimming pools, or any other unnecessary, non vital and expensive services or products (especially in this recessionary period), which would most likely require some sort of financing. Especially when he 'lectures' or admonishes those poor, brainless dolts who can't pay their bills with their 6 digit income. As I posted previously, what type of impression would be produced by a known chemical/substance abuse rehab talk show host or medical professional who advertises and/or endorses a liquor, beer, or tobacco company, or ads for bars, casinos, nightclubs, etc, outside of their program's timeslot? Why doesn't this fraud ever endorse sound financial products or services, safe investments or ways to stay out of debt and bankruptcy? Maybe those businesses know something you don't. And after having worked in the financial services field for over 15 years, I can smell a fraud when I see or hear one.

I don't like Ramsey's show but this isn't what he does.

He says don't buy things on credit and don't buy things you can't afford.

I have also heard him tell people who make 6 figures it is ridiculous that you can't get out of debt.