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Pukers?

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observer11

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The old word Pukers have really come into play when i have been observing recently. They have always been there but who is the worst offender or offenders?

Corey Mottley?
Buddy on Star? (cause he can see his dead fish)
Todd Edwards? (probably cause he's old school)
most of them on WHTT (probably cause of format)
haven't scanned wyrk in a while but usually there's 1 or 2 on there

anyone hear any good ones?
 
WTF?

If you think that most of those guys are pukers, you haven't really heard one in action.

Buddy Shula a puker? I don't think that he has the capability.

Bill Lacy a puker? Jim Pastrick? Val? Joe Siragusa? Not a chance.

You want a puker? Listen to anything done by Steve Mitchell. He used to be on KB toward the end, and you still hear him on some car commercials. Great voice, but as big a puker as ever lived.
 
Re: WTF?

SirRoxalot said:
You want a puker? Listen to anything done by Steve Mitchell. He used to be on KB toward the end, and you still hear him on some car commercials. Great voice, but as big a puker as ever lived.

HAHA right, i know who he is and yes he certainly is. but modern day pukers have changed a bit, anyone on now who you think is one??
 
The_NU_Guy said:
OK... you'll have to excuse my lack of knowledge. Can someone explain to me what is meant by "pukers" ????

"Pukers" are the old-time radio "disk jockeys" who had way-y-y-y too much "smile" in their voices. It's the ultimate in affected radio speech. They were/are the guys that use so much diaphragm that they sound like they're about to puke.

As far as "modern day" pukers are concerned, I'll have to think about that one for a bit. Most of the guys who are still employed are a lot more conversational in their delivery, if not in their subject matter. You still hear a real "puker" in small markets from time to time, but I can't think of a really good example who's on the air currently.
 
I can remember when someone like that was referred to as "Ron Radio" (the FM counterpart was John Goodvoice). As for the modern day version, I think they all got jobs as PA announcers for sports teams...
 
Modern Day Pukers

observer11 said:
...but modern day pukers have changed a bit, anyone on now who you think is one??

Well, I happened to be in an office that had Bob Galli from WJYE on the other day. I'd say that he's got a bit too much "smile" in his voice for my taste. Way too much "yuk" in his style.
 
If any jock other than the esteemed Dan Neaverth had said "lookin' at you through the hole in the record," he would have been classified as one of those hack-jocks who uses lines like "how ya doin' everybody," "comin' atchya" "7-53, 7 minutes before the hour of o'clock mayhem in the a-em," "4:30 Aunt Gerty" and "hump day," among others.

As to the pukers... well, there was a guy on the old WIXC (Wixy 12-60) Cleveland who was waaaay over the top, but he was one of the most entertaining jocks I'd ever heard. Wish I could remember his name... hmmmm.... Gary "Something" ? Doesn't click. But I remember his act. The guy was always in deep reverb, used all the hackneyed cliches, but he was simply good at what he did. Never crashed a vocal... talked up every intro to the letter... PSA's, weather, time and temp... whatever it took. He used bells, whistles, wild tracks and gongs... yeah, he was a puker and probably over the top, but he was eminently entertaining.

Now, most of have heard bad pukers, but this guy from WIXC was one hell of a "hot rockin' Top-40 dee-jay." He always sounded like he was having fun, even did the O'Liners or Electric Weenie, customized the lines to his market and the people he worked with. And he did character voices to a "T," mostly Paul Lind and Don Rickles stuff... people every listener was aware of.

It bums me out that I can't remember the dude's name... but he's proof that you can't rip on a particular style, even though we hear it today as being a carricature of Top 40 radio in its hayday.

Now, how about the legendary Jack Armstrong? I mean, we revere the dude on this board, but there's a case that can be made for him being way over the top, too. No? The Go-rilla? The shtick... the fast-talkin' routine? C'mon... tell me it's not something the Simpsons would lampoon? Still, the man is god-like to any self respecting jock over the age of 35.

And what about the "side-mouth talkers?" The guys, who for whatever reason, sounded like they were on AM sideband? The late, great Larry Anderson used this technique for a while in his early days at WGR... still, he was a well-respected jock who went into the books as one of the best PD's in Buffalo. BTW, is he in the WNY Broadcasting Hall of Fame?

I'd hold back on doing a blanket hack-job on any of the guys who were no doubt extreme, certainly no more extreme than the "Laid Back Lennies" who were part of the early Progressive Rock radio days, the guys who sounded like they were perpetually stoned.

"Hey mannnnnnn.... Jerry and the boys...... that was, uhhh, one of the band's better tunes..... St. Stephen.... diggit.... allllllriiiiiiight.... (saliva smack) now, uh.... let's do some MC 5... (FX: bumps beard into mic)... very heavy, mannnnnnnn... (FX: turntable wows up to speed...)"

Tell me you're not laughing just a bit envisioning and re-creating that routine in your mind!

Man, the radio we lived through! Makes me wanna give up hanging drywall, working with Aunt Helen, Uncle Oskie and his stinkin', two day old, gnawed-on stogies. ;)
 
One of the all time great pukers retired this month after 40+ years in Miami radio. Rick Shaw is a Miami legend and I can't think of anyone who left such a lasting impression on generations of listeners in South Florida.

Glad to hear side mouth talkers mentioned. That seems to have started in the '70's

IF Larry Anderson (is it Anderson or Andersen? I've seen his name spelled both ways) isn't in the Buffalo Broadcasting Halll of Fame he should be. WGR was a hell of a great radio station in the '70's and into the '80's. I listened everything I came into town.
 
Mr. Radknowski, I read your post and was intrigued by your reminiscing of that jock in Cleveland. Sounds like he had quite the influence on you. You mentioned Jack Armstrong; how about another KB great in Dick Biondi? I suggest if you want to find out who he is, either put a post on the "Cleveland" or "where are they now?" boards. I'm sure if the guy is all you said he was, there will be someone out there who can help you...

I also remember the "side mouth talkers" and the "stoners". Kind of funny how it makes me think of "WKRP in Cincinnati". It's also funny when you see the "side mouth talkers" make the transition to tv. I used to refer to their unique "feature" as "announcer mouth". It's one thing to hear it but a real laugh to see it...
 
Oh wow I forgot about the "stoners"!

We had a station in Fort Lauderdale WSRF & WSHE that was a family operation owned by Van Patrick (he was a sportscaster for MBS) and Gene Milner who ran WKNR (Keener 13) in the Detroit area. Tommy Judge was Milner's son and started out on WSRF which was top 40. Tommy was a real puker on that station. Then he moved over to WSHE when it became Album Rock and boy he turned into the biggest stoner you ever heard!
 
Mr. Radknowski! Not WIXC, but WIXY in Cleveland. Johnny Canton went from WHAM in Rochester to work at the WIXY under their first PD, get this name, Jerry Spin. Interesting jump, in that WHAM was a straight ahead MOR (middle of the road) station back then.

Johnny could "lackle" (puke) a little bit. Eventually he ended up in Minneapolis at WDGY. He may still be doing some weekend work out there somewhere.
 
Just Call Me Sherlock said:
Not WIXC, but WIXY in Cleveland.
Ay carumba! WIXY indeed! Thanks for setting the record (no pun intended) straight. What great call letters, eh? I'm surprised I didn't confuse it with WIXZ 13-60 in Pittsburgh! The stations were co-owned and programmed by Chuck Dunaway. Check out the WIXZ Pittsburgh-McKeesport line-up which contains a familiar Rochester-Buffalo-Syracuse radio legend as you scroll down to the WIXZ line-up.
 
puker, ?!
that is a new one 2me, but
i will say one person on that original list, said
some thing "offensive" to me, at the niagara county fair...
looking back, it wasnt as offensive, as it was insulting,
to my passion for radio, anyways, since then, when
some one with the name that ryhmes with
cruddy poola, does any thing on-aire, it is
turned off, tuned out, or erased from my short term ....
(what was i gonna type, lol ?! ) oh, memory, i forgot !

but yea, that talent puts the 'bs' on almost any thing he does!
 
Cruddy Poola?

"Pukers" is about a type of delivery, not a type of personality. "Cruddy Poola" might be an ass, but that doesn't make him a "puker".

There are not a lot of classic "pukers" left - at least in this town. Crusty the Clown from The Simpsons gets there from time to time, as does Kent Brockman. Even they aren't reliable examples. I'm back to Steve Mitchell, and maybe Bob Galli as a "puker wannabe".
 
lmao @ Pukers.. I think observer works @ kiss or hes observing from Kiss haha!
 
correction:

sry, but eight years ( YES *8* long years ago) "cruddy" said aired out what he said;
and i still remember, the remarks he made...Puker, or not, that is why he will -always- have a strike against him.

but i agree: personality, vs. puker, is 2 seperate things...but, a great/awesome broadcaster
(from 92.9, during the 'alice' years) once told me, u be nice to listeners,
that one listener may not tell anyone; BUT u be an (colourful word , inserted here)
...just like a poorly treated customer, they will make sure every one knows, and make certain
they tell 10people, and they tell....and so on, and so on.

objectively, which is tough for me, but...i would rate him as an average-to-
slightly higher end, buffalo-area broadcaster...with that said, there is alot
of 'extra's' u get...on dvd's extra's are gems, not in this case.
 
In My Mind, I look at the board postings and still see no credibility to what observers original comments were. Nobody even agrees to his original comments, Obviously he's listening to something were not.. especially to pull out names like he did... So my opinion, he's probably observing from the kiss studios. Im pretty sure since all his Posts are to slag others.. “Keep your feet on the ground, and keep reaching for the stars.”
 
My puking heritage

I never thought of myself as a puker until one day some years ago I dug up an aircheck of my morning show on the mighty 1120AM, circa 1975. Whoa! I never realized it during those years on the air, but there I was - in full 100 percent puke mode.

At that moment, it occurred to me that I'd probably sounded better four years earlier on Buffalo State’s WSCB. You know you’re in trouble if your college radio airchecks sound better than your commercial work.

I called a HAZMAT team to dispose of the cassette.

I also briefly experimented with the celebrated “side-mouth talkin’” technique. (“Shixhty-sheven degreesh on your Shaturday”), but must have instinctively realized that this wasn’t the way to go. Fortunately, there are no existing airchecks of my Side Mouth period.

At some point along the way, I think in the early 80’s, a PD suggested that I “just talk.” Be natural. Stop being Mr. Announcer. After my initial indignation (what do you mean???? Everybody knows I sound great!!!!), I began to take this to heart. In fact, I’ve been working on trying to sound natural for the last 25 years. I feel like I’ve made progress, but I’m never quite where I want to be. An aircheck that sounds fine the following day frequently sounds too rigid and announcery when I listen to it two years later. And horror of horrors, even some residual puke has crept in.

This morning, I had an audition for a radio spot in which I had the role of, you guessed it, “A DJ!” The copy direction called for a “folksy, country DJ” sound. So I did what I felt what was a nice country jock delivery. The booth director then said, “no, no, do it again. You need to ‘pour it on’ a little thicker.”

Hmmm. What to do? Then it hit me: I’ll reach back to those glory years toiling in the little shack in the lobby of the Hotel Lafayette.

So, for take 2, I spiced it up with a few degrees of puke. Nothing intense, just a gentle wiggywag of the uvula and a few puffs of air gently nudged through the nostrils. As the French would say, a “soupcon” of puke.

The booth director exclaimed, “that’s it! That’s it! That’s exactly what we need!” Go figure.

So, we’ll see if this audition is successful. If it is, I’ll have my puking heritage to thank for it.

Nick Seneca
 
blahsallthetime said:
In My Mind, I look at the board postings and still see no credibility to what observers original comments were. Nobody even agrees to his original comments, Obviously he's listening to something were not.. especially to pull out names like he did... So my opinion, he's probably observing from the kiss studios. Im pretty sure since all his Posts are to slag others.. “Keep your feet on the ground, and keep reaching for the stars.”

There was no "slag", simply observing. Apparently i must hear something others don't, sorry. I guess others must have liked the topic or else there wouldn't be 2 pages of responses. oh and you got me, I'm in the kiss studio as we speak, congrats BLAH.

I hear announcerish jocks, which may or may not be your definintion of puker. just starting a thread, sorry, didn't mean to get under your skin with a simple post. i have no affiliation with any station, just a former radio employee who likes to listen. but hey what do i know.
 
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