Pulse 87 making fun of 92.3 Now, Z100

[nd2023]

A liner heard on Pulse 87 today
"Pulse 87, where you hear new music first. Hear it later on Now, and even later on Z100"

I have also noticed that many people on 92.3 Now's Facebook group say that 87.7 is better. And a caller on 92.3 said "I made the switch from Pulse 87 to the new 92.3 Now". Free advertising for Pulse 87

 

[Jeffrey]

A liner heard on Pulse 87 today
"Pulse 87, where you hear new music first. Hear it later on Now, and even later on Z100"

I have also noticed that many people on 92.3 Now's Facebook group say that 87.7 is better. And a caller on 92.3 said "I made the switch from Pulse 87 to the new 92.3 Now". Free advertising for Pulse 87

While 92.3 NOW is a work in progress the delivery of Pulse and the liners are undoubtedly more professional and better sounding than NOW.
People bash Pulse on this board but regardless of musical taste, Pulse has better delivery.

 

[mjb1124]

Now THIS is how it's done.

Although they should have added "...and later still on KTU".

 

[nd2023]

Pulse 87 bashes Z100 and KTU by playing better music. 92.3 Now plays the same music as Z100.

 

[Radaioman]

A liner heard on Pulse 87 today
"Pulse 87, where you hear new music first. Hear it later on Now, and even later on Z100"

I have also noticed that many people on 92.3 Now's Facebook group say that 87.7 is better. And a caller on 92.3 said "I made the switch from Pulse 87 to the new 92.3 Now". Free advertising for Pulse 87

Not bad, but a truthful promo would say "Pulse plays it first..then people actually hear it when Z100 plays it no matter when they play it".
Playing it first means next to nothing. Top40 is not a format that breaks songs. Top 40 play hits. Is Pulse going to break the next Nickleback song or All American Rejects? No. But if Kid Cudi has a remix, I know where I can hear it a few weeks early. Oh boy.

 

[Radaioman]

Pulse 87 bashes Z100 and KTU by playing better music. 92.3 Now plays the same music as Z100.

That is IF you think dance music is better than a variety of music. Many don't . You can say a station does a better job of delivering the same format to the same audience, but please don't tell me that YOUR music is better than MY music or anyone else's. i would much rather hear music by artists that write their own songs, and play instruments than non stop track acts but you can enjoy what you want.

 

[d21ofnj]

Well, there's always RXP for Nickelback or All American Rejects. 8) But you don't understand, dance music hasn't even had the chance to even be rated by most people, let alone not getting proper airtime, so don't assume that most people don't like dance if most people hadn't even heard it. What was meant about Pulse playing better music, was indeed MEANT that Pulse plays what people (listeners) want and not by what "the" people (corporate) wants. BTW, would you still bash Pulse if they played a dance remix of Niclelback and/or All American Rejects? If it wasn't for Pulse, we would find out who Kid Cudi was Now instead of earlier. And lets not forget that Z jumped to the dance mix of Day N Nite as soon as they aired it, while Hot 97 airs the original.

 

[JohnParker]

Pulse 87 bashes Z100 and KTU by playing better music. 92.3 Now plays the same music as Z100.

You can say a station does a better job of delivering the same format to the same audience, but please don't tell me that YOUR music is better than MY music or anyone else's. i would much rather hear music by artists that write their own songs, and play instruments than non stop track acts but you can enjoy what you want.

This quote confuses me. The first part I totally agree with. There is no way that one's music can be better than anothers in terms of what one likes. But then you go to make a generalization that is one of the biggest misconceptions in music, that dance artists aren't writers or musicians. One should note that just because an artist chooses to, or is forced to due to the way a dance artist can get gigs, perform as a track act that doesn't mean that they don't write or have the same skill set that a rock band does. Many are very talented writers and can play as well.

jp

 

[DanceDiva3]

When I heard world reknown Paul Van Dyk on Pulse 87 doing an interview, he said he is a "Composer" and I agree with that as many are. They even play all the multiple instruments via technology live which is AMAZING!

 

[Radaioman]

Well, there's always RXP for Nickelback or All American Rejects. 8) But you don't understand, dance music hasn't even had the chance to even be rated by most people, let alone not getting proper airtime, so don't assume that most people don't like dance if most people hadn't even heard it. What was meant about Pulse playing better music, was indeed MEANT that Pulse plays what people (listeners) want and not by what "the" people (corporate) wants. BTW, would you still bash Pulse if they played a dance remix of Niclelback and/or All American Rejects? If it wasn't for Pulse, we would find out who Kid Cudi was Now instead of earlier. And lets not forget that Z jumped to the dance mix of Day N Nite as soon as they aired it, while Hot 97 airs the original.

Let me clarify. I wasn't bashing Pulse. I was saying that playing a song first is no big deal. but to answer your question, dance mixes of rock songs make me sick. Rock songs are rock songs. As for Kid Cudi...we all could have lived waiting another few weeks to discover this rare talent.
Now, to assume that Pulse plays what "people" want is to assume YOU represent all real people. This corporate conspirace theory is tired. Top 40 stations (In large markets especially) play audience tested music through call out research and auditorium testing, not corporate mandates. BTW, corprate mandates come from actual "people" as well. The dance mix of Day N Nite is the hit because the regular version is BORING and awful.
I was really only commenting on the Promo, not the station as it does what it does well.

 

[Radaioman]

Pulse 87 bashes Z100 and KTU by playing better music. 92.3 Now plays the same music as Z100.

You can say a station does a better job of delivering the same format to the same audience, but please don't tell me that YOUR music is better than MY music or anyone else's. i would much rather hear music by artists that write their own songs, and play instruments than non stop track acts but you can enjoy what you want.

This quote confuses me. The first part I totally agree with. There is no way that one's music can be better than anothers in terms of what one likes. But then you go to make a generalization that is one of the biggest misconceptions in music, that dance artists aren't writers or musicians. One should note that just because an artist chooses to, or is forced to due to the way a dance artist can get gigs, perform as a track act that doesn't mean that they don't write or have the same skill set that a rock band does. Many are very talented writers and can play as well.

jp

Not trying to confuse you. I prefer guitars bass and drums and singer songwriters with meaningful lyrics to artists that sing to tracks (that they may or may not have composed ) on a synthesizer or computer and perform with dancers behind them in a club. To ME, a band like U2 or Matchbox 20 or Pearl Jam or Plain White T's or Red Jumpsuit Apparatus are more enjoyable and longer lasting and have more creativity and meaning in their music and lyrics than Poker Face. That doesn't mean Poker Face isn't a great example of that genre, I just don't think it's fair to say one type of music is "better". It's only better for YOU. The second part of my post was only pointing out as I said, what I and I alone prefer.

 

[MarcR]

But you don't understand, dance music hasn't even had the chance to even be rated by most people, let alone not getting proper airtime, so don't assume that most people don't like dance if most people hadn't even heard it.

Why don't you, and others, face the reality that most dance music just isn't for home or automobile consumption. As the estimable music critic Robert Christgau, formerly of the Village Voice, wrote:
>>"Inextricable from massive sound systems, mixed in the live moment by the
DJs who were its true auteurs, heightened by communal ecstasy and the
chemical Ecstasy that made it feel real, dance/techno music was designed
to be accessed exclusively by its subculture."<<

Translation: a 24/7 Dance format just won't work on commerical radio, so deal with it!

 

[TonySantiago]

But you don't understand, dance music hasn't even had the chance to even be rated by most people, let alone not getting proper airtime, so don't assume that most people don't like dance if most people hadn't even heard it.

Why don't you, and others, face the reality that most dance music just isn't for home or automobile consumption. As the estimable music critic Robert Christgau, formerly of the Village Voice, wrote:
>>"Inextricable from massive sound systems, mixed in the live moment by the
DJs who were its true auteurs, heightened by communal ecstasy and the
chemical Ecstasy that made it feel real, dance/techno music was designed
to be accessed exclusively by its subculture."<<

Translation: a 24/7 Dance format just won't work on commerical radio, so deal with it!

I was actually going to stay quiet here. But being that people are bringing up the same crap once again, it's time I throw some water on this.

I am going to sum it up like this to the "haters".......you like your music, I like MY music. If there is a certain sound that I'm not into, then that's just how it is. I am not going to bash that sound nor knock anyone that likes it. Music is relative to the person that hears it. If someone loves thrash metal, then God bless 'em! I don't but I'm certainly not going to bash anyone on it. A lot of those that do hate dance music don't really know or understand it because despite that quote above, dance is a lot more than that.

Deal with it? I am. I'm trying to make change somehow and yes it is tough. It's not just about getting "accepted" but cleaning things within our own "house" to push things forward. Then, will things thrive further. In comparison to as recent as 2 years ago, dance music is making forward strides!

Okay, I may be a bad example being CORE to the music but I DO listen at home, in my car, on the subway, etc. Yet I also believe there are those that may be less core doing the exact same thing!

I will only agree that for SOME markets, dance music won't work. I certainly don't expect farmers out in Omaha bopping their heads to Ercola feat. Daniela's "Every Word". But to say that the music wont work so DEAL WITH IT??? How about deal with the fact that I will do my damndest to get this to work somehow. That way the same doubters can drop their jaw once we succeed. Not IF we succeed.....ONCE we succeed.

Okay...said my peace.

 

[CHRles]

Tony, relax and let him say what he wants. Some people will never get it, but I'm glad you try to set the record straight.
It's b/c of passionate people like you that a Pulse 87 can now seriously think about expanding to other markets.

 

[MarcR]

Don't get mad at me, get mad at Robert Christgau! I shouldn't have added the "so deal with it" after my prognosis for dance music on commercial radio, but I just don't think that, as Allan Sniffen puts it, the "casual listeners" will become converts to the genre. As Mr. Christgau also said, the music was "designed to leave its claims to magic immune to empirical verification", which translates as it just doesn't fit well in (most) home, car or work enviornments.

 

[TonySantiago]

I was mad at the "so deal with it" along with what Radaioman had said.

Whatever Mr. Christgau's opinion is, its just that...an opnion. I won't argue with people's opinions as long as they don't cross the line to bash people who are fans of this music.

If any of you think Pulse 87 sucks, that's fine! Hey, not everyone can like a dance station if their tastes aren't geared to that. That is perfectly okay. If any of you don't like the fact that the music is mainly electronic, that's okay. But don't bash on the dance music fans that enjoy the sounds and listen to the various (but few) sources of dance music that's around in the U.S. That's just not gonna fly anymore.

We're sorry you lost a rock station, but don't blame us!

 

[Radaioman]

I was mad at the "so deal with it" along with what Radaioman had said.

Whatever Mr. Christgau's opinion is, its just that...an opnion. I won't argue with people's opinions as long as they don't cross the line to bash people who are fans of this music.

If any of you think Pulse 87 sucks, that's fine! Hey, not everyone can like a dance station if their tastes aren't geared to that. That is perfectly okay. If any of you don't like the fact that the music is mainly electronic, that's okay. But don't bash on the dance music fans that enjoy the sounds and listen to the various (but few) sources of dance music that's around in the U.S. That's just not gonna fly anymore.

We're sorry you lost a rock station, but don't blame us!


Tony, What the heck did I write that you were upset with? I just said that playing an artist first is not the most important thing to most fans. I would hope that Pulse has more to offer than rushing to play a song. I am sure you would agree that they do.
I didn't insult dance music or it's fans. Nothing I wrote was untrue and I made sure to say that music likes and dislikes are personal.

 

[Jeffrey]

Don't get mad at me, get mad at Robert Christgau! I shouldn't have added the "so deal with it" after my prognosis for dance music on commercial radio, but I just don't think that, as Allan Sniffen puts it, the "casual listeners" will become converts to the genre. As Mr. Christgau also said, the music was "designed to leave its claims to magic immune to empirical verification", which translates as it just doesn't fit well in (most) home, car or work enviornments.

Why don't you think the casual listener could become a convert to dance music? They have in Europe. Just because American radio is biast towards dance doesn't actually mean it couldn't be popular in this country as in others. It's a matter of exposure.

Also the argument of dance not fitting well in most homes, cars or work environment doesn't seem like a valid argument since one could claim the same for hip, hop....a genre hugely popular in this country.

 

[nd2023]

I'm a Pulse 87 P1 (that means it's my #1 station to listen to), but I also like CHR, oldies, AC, and alternative rock. I can completely understand people getting mad at CBS Radio or Press when they have been listening to KRock or GRock all their lives. The only alternative for GRock listeners is 101.9 which plays a lot of classic rock and doesn't sound as edgy as GRock (101.9 is to alt rock like KTU is to dance). Their other alternative is 104.5 out of Philly, which has a lot of static in most of GRock's listening area (104.5 is great for alt rock like Pulse 87 is for dance)

If we had a dance station in Omaha, NE, people would listen to it. There probably are people in St George, Utah who love dance music because 94.5 The Vibe is one of the only stations that can be heard there.

 

[CHRles]

If we had a dance station in Omaha, NE, people would listen to it.

Maybe we can get Warren Buffet to launch a Dance station in Omaha ;D