Q100 and WILD

[mike7586]

Since it's a new year and all, I thought I would start a thread for all things Q100 and WILD.

Although I still HATE some of the song selections during the dayparting on Q100, I have to say the station has improved a lot. WILD on the other hand is still nothing special. I'm surprised Q100 is breaking out some pop/rhythmic music faster than WILD, for example:

Rihanna - S&M, Far East Movement - Rocketeer, Taio Cruz - Higher, they play Enrique - Tonight WITH LUDACRIS (I think it's weird WILD plays the version without it), Ke$ha - Blow, Usher - More, Black Eyed Peas - Just Can't Get Enough, and they even play Edward Maya - Stereo Love on the Billy Bush show. They both play the new Britney Spears though. I will give WILD credit for playing New Boyz/Dev - Back Seat, Kanye West - All of the Lights, and Mann - Buzzin', but that's it. Also, David J needs to tone down trying to act like he's ghetto... I liked him better when it was The Groove.

WILD also needs to get a single, stronger signal...

 

[atlantaboy]

As soon as Star 94 started up the "Your Life Your Music" Hot AC thing, Q100 started becoming much more pop/rhythmic - I'm guessing because they were no longer worried about Star moving back towards adult CHR

 

[ShawtyBlack_ATL]

WILD is very boring to be called "Atlanta's Party Station." Honestly,that positioner belongs to HOT 107.9 because they have live club broadcast from 10pm-2am Thursday through Sunday and tons of club promos. Mami Chula seems to be the back bone at WILD since she's known in town compared to the other jocks. I got a chance to checkout WILD 94.9 in SF and it makes WILD ATL look bad. Just my 2cents.

 

[musicman3355]

WiLD 94.9 is the true party station, WILD ATL is a joke. It's just your typical rhythmic CHR with a boring presentation. :

 

[mike7586]

WILD is very boring to be called "Atlanta's Party Station." Honestly,that positioner belongs to HOT 107.9 because they have live club broadcast from 10pm-2am Thursday through Sunday and tons of club promos. Mami Chula seems to be the back bone at WILD since she's known in town compared to the other jocks. I got a chance to checkout WILD 94.9 in SF and it makes WILD ATL look bad. Just my 2cents.

Agreed. WILD 94.9 in SF is a really good station - lots of energy. I don't understand why a similar format would not work here.

 

[radiolives]

I notice both playlists of KYLD and WWVA are very much simliar.

WiLD 94.9 Playlist from yes.com (5:35pm - 9:05pm PDT)

: Far East Movement - Rocketeer (w/ Ryan Tedder)
10.02.2011 5:35pm

: New Boyz - Back Seat (w/ Dev)
10.02.2011 5:38pm

: Pitbull - Hey Baby (Drop It To The Floor) (w/ T-Pain)
10.02.2011 5:49pm

: Ke$ha - We R Who We R
10.02.2011 5:52pm

: Drake - Best I Ever Had
10.02.2011 5:56pm

: Rihanna - S&M
10.02.2011 6:00pm

: Jason DeRulo - Whatcha Say
10.02.2011 6:04pm

: Mike Posner - Bow Chicka Wow Wow
10.02.2011 6:07pm

: Katy Perry - Firework
10.02.2011 6:17pm

: Aaliyah - Are You That Somebody?
10.02.2011 6:21pm

: Mike Posner - Please Don't Go
10.02.2011 6:25pm

: Jeremih - Down On Me (w/ 50 Cent)
10.02.2011 6:29pm

: Eminem - Love The Way You Lie (w/ Rihanna)
10.02.2011 6:32pm

: Jay Sean - Hit The Lights (w/ Lil Wayne)
10.02.2011 6:36pm

: Britney Spears - Hold It Against Me
10.02.2011 6:40pm

: Kanye West - Heartless
10.02.2011 6:52pm

: Cee-Lo Green - F**k You
10.02.2011 6:55pm

: Usher - DJ Got Us Fallin' In Love (w/ Pitbull)
10.02.2011 6:59pm

: Far East Movement - Rocketeer (w/ Ryan Tedder)
10.02.2011 7:02pm

: Nicki Minaj - Moment 4 Life (w/ Drake)
10.02.2011 7:06pm

: Enrique Iglesias - Tonight
10.02.2011 7:10pm

: T.I. - Dead And Gone (w/ Justin Timberlake)
10.02.2011 7:19pm

: Rihanna - S&M
10.02.2011 7:23pm

: Trey Songz - Say Aah
10.02.2011 7:27pm

: Bruno Mars - Grenade
10.02.2011 7:30pm

: Britney Spears - Gimme More
10.02.2011 7:34pm

: Lil Wayne - 6 Foot 7 Foot (w/ Cory Gunz)
10.02.2011 7:37pm

: Britney Spears - Hold It Against Me
10.02.2011 7:47pm

: Chris Brown - Yeah 3X
10.02.2011 7:50pm

: Rihanna - What's My Name (w/ Drake)
10.02.2011 7:54pm

: Nicki Minaj - Moment 4 Life (w/ Drake)
10.02.2011 7:58pm

: Ke$ha - We R Who We R
10.02.2011 8:02pm

: Mike Posner - Please Don't Go
10.02.2011 8:05pm

: Dr. Dre - The Next Episode (w/ Snoop Dogg & Nate Dogg)
10.02.2011 8:08pm

: Far East Movement - Rocketeer (w/ Ryan Tedder)
10.02.2011 8:11pm

: Lil Wayne - 6 Foot 7 Foot (w/ Cory Gunz)
10.02.2011 8:14pm

: Drake - Forever (w/ Kanye West, Eminem & Lil Wayne)
10.02.2011 8:19pm

: Rihanna - S&M
10.02.2011 8:24pm

: Usher - OMG (w/ Will.I.Am)
10.02.2011 8:27pm

: Cee-Lo Green - F**k You
10.02.2011 8:31pm

: Mike Posner - Bow Chicka Wow Wow
10.02.2011 8:37pm

: Trey Songz - Bottoms Up (w/ Nicki Minaj)
10.02.2011 8:39pm

: Rihanna - Only Girl (In The World)
10.02.2011 8:48pm

: Jeremih - Down On Me (w/ 50 Cent)
10.02.2011 8:53pm

: David Guetta - Sexy Chick (w/ Akon)
10.02.2011 8:56pm

: Mike Posner - Please Don't Go
10.02.2011 8:59pm

: New Boyz - Back Seat (w/ Dev)
10.02.2011 9:02pm

: LMFAO - La La La
10.02.2011 9:05pm

 

[radiolives]

WiLD 105.7 Playlist from yes.com (8:25pm - 12:11am EST):

Ke$ha - We R Who We R
10.02.2011 8:25pm

: Usher - DJ Got Us Fallin' In Love (w/ Pitbull)
10.02.2011 8:29pm

: LMFAO - Shots (w/ Lil' Jon)
10.02.2011 8:31pm

: Far East Movement - Like A G6 (w/ The Cataracs & Dev)
10.02.2011 8:34pm

: Pitbull - Hey Baby (Drop It To The Floor) (w/ T-Pain)
10.02.2011 8:37pm

: Kanye West - All Of The Lights
10.02.2011 8:43pm

: Lil Wayne - 6 Foot 7 Foot (w/ Cory Gunz)
10.02.2011 8:51pm

: Rick Ross - Aston Martin Music (w/ Drake & Chrisette Michele)
10.02.2011 8:57pm

: Chris Brown - Look At Me Now (w/ Lil Wayne & Busta Rhymes)
10.02.2011 9:01pm

: Waka Flocka Flame - No Hands (w/ Roscoe Dash & Wale)
10.02.2011 9:05pm

: Ke$ha - Tik Tok
10.02.2011 9:20pm

: Nicki Minaj - Moment 4 Life (w/ Drake)
10.02.2011 9:23pm

: Kanye West - All Of The Lights
10.02.2011 9:28pm

: Bruno Mars - Grenade
10.02.2011 9:33pm

: Usher - Yeah (w/ Lil' Jon & Ludacris)
10.02.2011 9:36pm

: Chris Brown - Yeah 3X
10.02.2011 9:41pm

: Enrique Iglesias - Tonight
10.02.2011 9:50pm

: Wiz Khalifa - Black And Yellow
10.02.2011 9:54pm

: Katy Perry - Teenage Dream
10.02.2011 9:58pm

: Chris Brown - Yeah 3X
10.02.2011 10:05pm

: New Boyz - Back Seat (w/ Dev)
10.02.2011 10:08pm

: Black Eyed Peas - Boom Boom Pow
10.02.2011 10:11pm

: Rihanna - S&M
10.02.2011 10:16pm

: Taio Cruz - Dynamite
10.02.2011 10:20pm

: Usher - OMG (w/ Will.I.Am)
10.02.2011 10:22pm

: Soulja Boy - Turn My Swag On
10.02.2011 10:25pm

: Waka Flocka Flame - Grove St. Party (w/ Kebo Gotti)
10.02.2011 10:28pm

: Trey Songz - Bottoms Up (w/ Nicki Minaj)
10.02.2011 10:32pm

: Chris Brown & Tyga - Deuces
10.02.2011 10:35pm

: Wiz Khalifa - Black And Yellow
10.02.2011 10:47pm

: Cali Swag District - Teach Me How To Dougie
10.02.2011 10:54pm

: Rihanna - Hard (w/ Young Jeezy)
10.02.2011 10:56pm

: Britney Spears - Hold It Against Me
10.02.2011 11:03pm

: Far East Movement - Like A G6 (w/ The Cataracs & Dev)
10.02.2011 11:08pm

: Enrique Iglesias - Tonight
10.02.2011 11:19pm

: Trey Songz - Say Aah
10.02.2011 11:22pm

: T.I. - Big Things Poppin'
10.02.2011 11:26pm

: Lil Wayne - 6 Foot 7 Foot (w/ Cory Gunz)
10.02.2011 11:28pm

: Jeremih - Down On Me (w/ 50 Cent)
10.02.2011 11:32pm

: Unk - Walk It Out
10.02.2011 11:35pm

: Keri Hilson - Pretty Girl Rock
10.02.2011 11:37pm

: Jay-Z - Empire State Of Mind (w/ Alicia Keys)
10.02.2011 11:39pm

: Chris Brown - I Can Transform Ya (w/ Lil Wayne & Swizz Beatz)
10.02.2011 11:42pm

: Rihanna - S&M
10.02.2011 11:49pm

: Britney Spears - Hold It Against Me
11.02.2011 12:00am

: Usher - Love In This Club (w/ Young Jeezy)
11.02.2011 12:03am

: Chris Brown - Yeah 3X
11.02.2011 12:07am

: Jay-Z - Empire State Of Mind (w/ Alicia Keys)
11.02.2011 12:11am

 

[Wildstyle K]

Well you know me. WiLD is sort of like a "girlfriend"; I critique and talk about WiLD all the time, but as soon as others do the exact same thing, I step up and get all defense and stand up for WiLD, then get into the whole "I know they aren't perfect, but.." attitude!

I mean, yes, they aren't everything a "WiLD style" rhythmic party station could or should be, BUT... they are doing and sounding pretty well. I still cannot understand why they "refuse" to add certain established (or even new potential) hits, but while they are slow on certain things, they are somewhat fast on other things. I think they're doing better now than they were back when things "went haywire" with the playlist and I began expressing how I almost lost hope (which was, ironically, around the same time period ratings dropped drastically). I should also add; I tend to talk about that time period when things went haywire a lot, but I keep forgetting to mention that things have improved since then. I don't want people misunderstanding and thinking that I'm saying "it's been awful ever since". Yes, it was bad back at that one point in time, but has gotten better since then.

As far as Hot 107.9 being a Party Station, I don't think that would really be a good (or appropriate) idea - since they only play mainly one type of sound. I'd feel the same way about them doing that as I did when KVIB Club 95 Latino Vibe came into town playing "reggaeton y mas" and decided to adopt the slogan "Arizona's Party Station" while still somewhat using the slogan "For Latino's, By Latino's". What would be nice is an Atlanta rhythmic format with a Hot 107.9 time schedule layout style. Hot 107.9 is fine with "Atlanta's Real Hip Hop Station", or any hip hop related slogan that is appropriate for their sound. To convert into a "party station", I'd say WHTA would have to start adopting mixshows with dj's playing..... other things.

I also wouldn't call WWVA a "typical rhythmic CHR" (although, they are not too many hits away from being a typical rhythmic chr). They are still pretty unique with their playlist programming. As far as Q100 becoming much more pop/rhythmic, I also wouldn't say that. I'd say they've gone more straight pop and less alternative-pop sounding, but definitely not much more pop / rhythmic. As far as I know, they don't play "black & yellow" by Wiz Khalifa or "Hey baby" by Pitbull, and some of the material presented on the Fox All Access Hit Music Countdown. Both Q100 and WiLD are fast and slow with certain material.

But yes, I do agree that WiLD Atlanta could do a lot better than what they are currently doing. I still strongly believe that if done properly, a "proper style" rhythmic format WITH a decent signal can and will succeed in Atlanta AND even surpass the overall average ratings level that WBTS had maintained during their entire existence. As a matter of fact, I bet WiLD could pull acceptable ratings as they are now (and do even better with a better managed playlist and song arrangement). I think what is needed are folks who have a passion for the sound, style, and format to take over as the "higher ups" and "call the shots" when it comes to formatting. Having people who don't have any personal 'feel', interest, or desire for the format(s) they are in charge of is like... actually, never mind with the analogy. I think you get the overall point.

 

[Wildstyle K]

Also, keep in mind that mixshow schedules tend to "interfere" with regular playlist music, when doing the playlist comparisons. There are certain similarities that exist only because some of the recorded data was taken during a mixshow time period, and since WWVA only mixes about once a day during the weekday, some of those songs possibly only play a few times a week, while they are heavily played on the other station that is being compared to WWVA. I'd say that in this case, this comparison is pretty safe to use, since tonight's mixshow didn't play too many "exclusive" non playlist hits.

In reality, I'd say that all WWVA would really have to do to "complete their playlist" is finally add Fareast Movement "Rocketeer" and Pitbull's "Hey baby". Those, out of all that are "missing", I'm absolutely positive to be "solid, unquestionable hits".

 

[ShawtyBlack_ATL]

BTW, WILD 105.7/96.7 is bring back "Beat The Buzzer" on Monday morning. Nothing is original with this station. Nothing but old promos not to mention jocks Cox used with 95.5 THE BEAT.

 

[Wildstyle K]

Beat The Buzzer? How will this local thing work with a syndicated morning show? At least the mixes are original. It's just too bad that now ClearChannel can't provide them with a signal as decent as Cox did, now that there's actually some "action" other than just the regular playlist music going on at the station.

 

[ShawtyBlack_ATL]

Beat The Buzzer? How will this local thing work with a syndicated morning show? At least the mixes are original. It's just too bad that now ClearChannel can't provide them with a signal as decent as Cox did, now that there's actually some "action" other than just the regular playlist music going on at the station.

Im sure The Buzzer thing will start after Elvas Duran. Where's the action you're talking about? Usually new stations hit the streets hard, but Clear Channel never did put effort into this station. They went through too many changes with the names and format not for Clear Channel to promote WILD harder. They will stay stuck being #4 compared to V, HOT and Q. STAR is no longer a threat.

 

[radiolives]

WiLD should bill themselves as "The Beat 2.0, Atlanta's Party Station"

 

[mike7586]

Is something going on with WILD? If you check out their playlist last night starting at midnight to this morning, you'll notice they played a bunch of different songs (some new, some old). Was it a remix or special show? Or maybe they are flirting with adding more of a mix to their playlist? I hope the latter is true!

 

[Wildstyle K]

Well.. it's definitely not a mixshow, because it would surely be impossible to produce a (properly done & professional) mix with songs arranged in the order in which they were played, unless there are new remixes out there that I never knew of, or the dj who did it is horrible with bpm management & acknowledgement. Also, the timing of the songs show that entire length songs were played (with exception for "Nu Shooz - I can't wait", which I'm sure had to be some glitch caused by "Mann - Buzzin"). The odds of a dj mixshow with a bunch of remixes I've never heard of or bad bpm structure, also consisting of all full length played songs, is highly unlikely.

By the way, as surprising as some of those songs may be, none of those songs should really be surprising or shocking on a rhythmic/top 40 format because they are really nothing new. They're normal. What I consider to be exciting & somewhat out of the ordinary is; *The dance house party mix show that our KZON started doing every late night from 3-4am following the Saturday night Jamsession, AND; *Our new high school hit music station - that ALSO has a dance show on Friday nights (sorry, but I just had to brag and tease about the new news here ;D), and you can find out more about our latest high school operated, no need to worry about ratings-ated, commercial free-ated high school station, and what they play, HERE!! http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php?topic=183742.0

(Still don't feel compelled to go check it out because "it's not your town, so what do you care"? Well, then check out this here playlist..)

Grenade-Bruno Mars
Who Dat Girl-Flo Rida fea Akon
Me Myself and I-De la Soul
Let it Rock-Kevin Rudolph
Life is a Highway-Tom Cochrane
Tighten Up the Black Keys
I Miss You-Blink 182
We are Who We are-Kesha
Vogue-Madonna
Dynamite-Taio Cruz
Mo Money Mo Problems-Notorius BIG
1, 2 Step-Ciara
Speak Now-Taylor Swift
Baby-Justin Bieber feat Luda!

....NOW you know you want to go, so just go. No one will know...

 

[Wildstyle K]

Well it definitely sounds like the music is "under total Clearchannel automated control over night". In other words, WWVA sounds like a straight up ClearChannel owned rhythmic top 40 chr from 12am until the morning show. Even the versions of certain songs used in the regular playlist during that time match the specific version(s) that a typical ClearChannel rhythmic top 40 chr station (including Sirius / XM KISS) would use. I've noticed that they even use the Dj Xquizit X remix of "Memories" by David Guetta ft Kid Cudi, a remix version I've only heard clearchannel chr stations use regularly in a regular playlist (which doesn't register on yes dot com). I did notice that although the overnight music sounds automated (to the point where it even sounds simulcasted) with exception to the WiLD commercial breaks and drops, there are some things I haven't heard play (Such as P!NK "raise your glass"), which makes me question whether or not the overnight music is truly automated, programmed, or simulcasted from an "outside source" because most likely that source wouldn't just exclude P!NK from "hit music".

While they do sound somewhat drastically differently at night from the day, I also notice that their softer, but true rhythmic top 40 sound at night does not sound like it's being programmed for the Atlanta, or even the southeast market at all (while during the day they do sound more programmed for the Atlanta market, but with a rather poor musical arrangement and a lack of quite a few nationwide-established hits that could be added).

I could go on, but.. I think the bottom line is this; Things at WWVA should have been left alone from the get go and kept going in the direction they were headed in back when everything was seemingly starting to look good for the station in late September through some of October 2010, back when ratings were on the rise and a 3 share + was being established. I don't think I'll ever fully understand why it was ever messed up to begin with, or who chose to "make it all go haywire". I also don't think I understand this overnight move either, because now with these two different format sounds going on, you have a day time sound that fits Atlanta, BUT with a few established hits lacking, and then a full blown chr night sound - that almost completely LACKS the Atlanta regional sound while containing some other "non-Atl regional sounding filler recurrent" stuff. As the saying goes, "two wrongs don't make a right". I'm not saying that they shouldn't have a "real" chr rhythmic sound or cater to the Atl region. I'm simply saying that somehow, the two format sound styles have to be properly and sensibly fused together -  in such a way that it still fits the Atl regional sound - All Day - without lacking the established hits. Agree or disagree, but I'm sure what I'm suggesting couldn't hurt the ratings anymore than they've already been hurt back in late 2010...

In conclusion, I don't understand how Lil Wayne "6 foot 7 foot" or Wiz Khalifa "Black & yellow" or WAKA FLOCKA FLAME "no hands" (Things that would obviously work for the Atl regional chr rhythmic top 40 sound) aren't played at night WITH the traditional hit music sound, then fully established hits like "rocketeer" by FM and "hey baby" by Pitbull and certain material from Mike posner..etc. are excluded during the day. I also don't understand how a full traffic report is played over "grenade" by Bruno Mars at 5:45am.....

Other than that, I still believe in WiLD and the fact that THEY CAN succeed - IF done correctly and given a chance to.

 

[mike7586]

I personally prefer the "real" CHR/rhythmic sound to the "ATL regional sound", but I agree in that they could be fused together. But I don't even think WILD does the best it could of representing ATL/Southeast and actually some other stations do a better job that aren't even in the south. Where is Usher - More? Gorilla Zoe - Echo? Cee Lo Green? More FloRida songs? More Akon songs? Where is Pitbull? I mean, I know stations in Los Angeles that play Lloyd - You, Trick Daddy - Sugar, 112 - Peaches & Cream, DJ Felli Fel - Get Buck In Here, Lil Jon/Youngbloodz - Damn!

Anyways, I don't see how meshing the two together wouldn't work. Your basically playing songs the rest of the country hears/established hits while mixing in more "regional/local" songs. Other stations do it and so can WILD... and who knows, maybe they are going to go in that direction. I've noticed that they usually play songs in the middle of the night for a little bit before moving them into the daytime playlist.

And they really need to get a single, better signal.

 

[Wildstyle K]

I will admit - this "day vs. night" thing, where day and night sounds almost as different as night and day, is better than doing nothing at all when it comes to trying more national hit music. I am not complaining about it at all (although I am pointing out that it is a bit unique to not include the regional friendly songs played during the day during the overnights and not include certain established hits that are used with the overnight music formatting during the day time). I did once mention that WWWQ should try something where they played extra traditional hits (and new potential hits) overnights, but I never expected WWVA to adopt this idea - and not only adopt it, but adopt it to the fullest extent.

Reflecting on the Groove / WiLD transition;
In addition to the whole haywire ordeal that went down in October 2010, I also think the way they went about flipping the Groove format may have hurt them a bit. I'm speculating here, but the way I see it is if you slowly try to transition into a new format in the fashion that WWVA chose to around the end of last summer, you slowly lose the old listeners while you also transition so slowly that your potential new listeners aren't even aware that the station is evolving into a station they'll eventually like full time. Therefore, in some ways, it's better (in THIS case) to just do a full, sudden flip... and I'll explain why I say this, shortly. It was also a little funny to me that the slow evolution took place for many weeks/months, then suddenly one night at 12:00am in the middle of the week, all the rhythmic old school was suddenly dropped and a full rhythmic approach surfaced. Not to mention that in addition to that, the name change and extra signal pick up were all done on different days as well. Not only did I see suddenly dropping all the old school rhythmic titles and going full blown rhythmic one day as defeating the whole purpose of the slow transition that took place before hand, but I also believe everything (name, music, extra signal...etc.) should have just been changed all at once, and the focus should've been more on the new listeners as oppose to trying to "get sneaky with" and attempt to keep the old Groove listeners - that were obviously going to be scared away by the full rhythmic approach. At first, I used to question myself for thinking these things, but now, looking back on everything that went down since then ratings and format-wise, I don't think my idea would've been any worse than some of the things that did ended up happening anyway. What's also funny is that I bet the old Groove listeners would've been more acceptive of the station the way it is NOW, than they were of all those tweaks that took place in later 2010...

EXPLANATION ON SUDDEN FLIP VS. SLOW TRANSITION; HIND-SIGHT
Now, let me briefly explain what I promised to explain earlier. I said "in some ways, it's better (in THIS case) to just do a full, sudden flip... than a slow transition". The reason I say this - and even agree more with it NOW is due to the fact that EITHER WAY, there would've been a drop in ratings - especially with the way things had been handled shortly after the transition to rhythmic was fully established. I know the saying is "hind sight is 20/20"; No one could see the future and predict or assume that things would've still 'fallen apart' ratings-wise after the whole transition thing. However... it's still something to reflect on, briefly talk about, and take into consideration for future references. Looking back now, I doubt that a full, sudden flip (with name change and signal addition all included) all in one day would've caused anymore of a dip in ratings than the dip that occurred around the whole "airplanes fiasco & haywire period" that went down in late October.

Well anyway, all that is in the past now, so there's really no point in continuing to revisit it and talking about what coulda or shoulda have been done. Lets just focus on the now and doing what's best for the future of the modern WWVA.

 

[ShawtyBlack_ATL]

Is something going on with WILD? If you check out their playlist last night starting at midnight to this morning, you'll notice they played a bunch of different songs (some new, some old). Was it a remix or special show? Or maybe they are flirting with adding more of a mix to their playlist? I hope the latter is true!

I listened to WILD for a few tonight around 2am and heard Nessa introduce herself, took a caller and palyed Cee Lo's "F*** You". Of course she didn't mention "Wild". Is she voicetracked overnights now?

 

[DToTheJ]

Wild must be using a CC "Premium Choice" robo-jock on the overnights. They even use canned jocks on their stations in New York - market no. 1. I'd like to know of any CC stations anywhere that are live on the overnights.