Yeah, I have not listened to the Morning Show for weeks now, and the playlist is obviously stale. I really hate to pull away, but can't take it anymore. Their listener base has to be an older age group now with no new joining. Very disappointing. Seriously, is it management, or is anyone to blame here?
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iHeartSiriusXM said:I've had Sirius now for over a year because of how lame radio is in Columbus. It's been a pleasure to cut local terrestrial radio completely out of my life. I suggest anyone who was as miserable as I was to do the same.
The audio quality of SiriusXM is crap. I just listen to my iphone.
faaradar said:iHeartSiriusXM said:I've had Sirius now for over a year because of how lame radio is in Columbus. It's been a pleasure to cut local terrestrial radio completely out of my life. I suggest anyone who was as miserable as I was to do the same.
The audio quality of SiriusXM is crap. I just listen to my iphone.
I agree it is bad but I like to be able to get in my car, turn it on, and have music playing. I use my iPhone any other time I listen to music.
The problem with the format is, in fact, as you mention, that it is stale.
Classic Rock is moving forward. It is no longer a 60's format...or even early 70's, unless
you want to attract aging hippies.
What's happening to the format is exactly what happened to the original oldies format, and
for the same reasons.
More titles, though is not the answer. (Sorry, Alans 613) It's the right number of the right titles with
music rotated correctly (a major problem at many stations), and personalities who can properly
relate to the new sound.
Q was a tremendous station in its heyday. But, yes...listening to it does make one feel it's getting long in the tooth...
Classic Rock is moving forward. It is no longer a 60's format...or even early 70's, unless
you want to attract aging hippies.
What's happening to the format is exactly what happened to the original oldies format, and
for the same reasons.
More titles, though is not the answer. (Sorry, Alans 613) It's the right number of the right titles with
music rotated correctly (a major problem at many stations), and personalities who can properly
relate to the new sound.
Q was a tremendous station in its heyday. But, yes...listening to it does make one feel it's getting long in the tooth...
Rock radio evolved into something I didn't understand, so I haven't listened in a lonnnnggg time. The whole "I just took a valium and I'm ready for bed" sound of the air talent killed the "feel" for me. How do you come out of Born to be Wild with an NPR delivery???? As a listener, it just didn't appeal to me.
With regard to Q, the fact that they've brought back music that neither they nor anyone else has played locally for years -- like "Pinball Wizard" or "Space Cowboy" -- has *freshened* their sound. Those songs have been off the air so long locally (talking big signals only here) that by definition they're not stale -- yet, anyway. That's actually an advantage to playing the songs; the question is the degree to which it could be outweighed by disadvantages.Jason Roberts said:The problem with the format is, in fact, as you mention, that it is stale.
Jason Roberts said:Classic Rock is moving forward. It is no longer a 60's format...or even early 70's, unless
you want to attract aging hippies.
What's happening to the format is exactly what happened to the original oldies format, and
for the same reasons.
First off, despite adding back a good dollop of late 60s and early 70's tunes that are still played by many CR's currently making a mint (e.g., Hubbard's Drive in Chicago), on the Q those tunes are still very outnumbered by later stuff. And have you noticed how, over the last year, the Brew ("The Next Generation of Classic Rock," "Not Your Father's") has actually moved their average era *backwards* some? A year ago the only Pink Floyd they would touch is "Another Brick In The Wall" but now they play aging hippie standard "Comfortably Numb."
In a similar vein, how do you explain so many of today's supposedly "un-staled" oldies stations -- including CC Premium Choice (WODC and a zillion others) actually moving their musical center significantly BACKWARDS in time over the last year or two? 80's have been completely banished from CC Oldies PC, and the proportion of 60's went UP. This backtracking constituted an even more-jolting backtracking for more-established CC Classic Hits/Oldies like KJR Seattle than it did for 93.3. So what's their strategy? Are they just getting aging hippies? Are they making money off them? Then you have others like the True Oldies Channel moving in both directions at once, e.g., they play 80's but at the same time they also play some pre-Beatles doo-wopy stuff that CC PC avoids.
(And on a related note, why do hippies-turned-angry-Rush-fans do the trick for talk stations? Or do they? Is that format nearing the end of its life-cycle, despite absurd/wishful thinking notions that simply migrating to FM will attract -- and retain -- significant new blood without a corresponding revision of content?)
Nu_Roo_2 said:With regard to Q, the fact that they've brought back music that neither they nor anyone else has played locally for years -- like "Pinball Wizard" or "Space Cowboy" -- has *freshened* their sound. Those songs have been off the air so long locally (talking big signals only here) that by definition they're not stale -- yet, anyway. That's actually an advantage to playing the songs; the question is the degree to which it could be outweighed by disadvantages.Jason Roberts said:The problem with the format is, in fact, as you mention, that it is stale.
Jason Roberts said:Classic Rock is moving forward. It is no longer a 60's format...or even early 70's, unless
you want to attract aging hippies.
What's happening to the format is exactly what happened to the original oldies format, and
for the same reasons.
First off, despite adding back a good dollop of late 60s and early 70's tunes that are still played by many CR's currently making a mint (e.g., Hubbard's Drive in Chicago), on the Q those tunes are still very outnumbered by later stuff. And have you noticed how, over the last year, the Brew ("The Next Generation of Classic Rock," "Not Your Father's") has actually moved their average era *backwards* some? A year ago the only Pink Floyd they would touch is "Another Brick In The Wall" but now they play aging hippie standard "Comfortably Numb."
In a similar vein, how do you explain so many of today's supposedly "un-staled" oldies stations -- including CC Premium Choice (WODC and a zillion others) actually moving their musical center significantly BACKWARDS in time over the last year or two? 80's have been completely banished from CC Oldies PC, and the proportion of 60's went UP. This backtracking constituted an even more-jolting backtracking for more-established CC Classic Hits/Oldies like KJR Seattle than it did for 93.3. So what's their strategy? Are they just getting aging hippies? Are they making money off them? Then you have others like the True Oldies Channel moving in both directions at once, e.g., they play 80's but at the same time they also play some pre-Beatles doo-wopy stuff that CC PC avoids.
(And on a related note, why do hippies-turned-angry-Rush-fans do the trick for talk stations? Or do they? Is that format nearing the end of its life-cycle, despite absurd/wishful thinking notions that simply migrating to FM will attract -- and retain -- significant new blood without a corresponding revision of content?)
Because the way I describe works...demo wise. And that's what you have to get to survive financially.
Well, I might be in the category of an aging hippie, growing up in the muscle car and Vietnam Era, but I am a true hard core rock fan, new or old. I enjoy good classic rock and new rock, as long as it's rock, not pop crap. But what gets me is that when a station gets stale, such as the Q, it seems to stay that way, and some other stations will mix it up, making a much more enjoyable listening experience. I would like to think that the Q would take more of a proactive stand on this, get on the bandwagon, and start blasting something other than the same old playlist. I can only take so much of 'Space Cowboy' which, incidently, was way overplayed back when it first came out.
I've been listening to "The 100,000 watt mouth of the South," 103.5 WIMZ out of Knoxville, Tennessee through an app on my phone. Every summer I go to the Knoxville area and love listening to them. They sound damn good in terms of jocks and playlists, so I know it could be done at the Q. WIMZ has John Boy and Billy in the mornings, which I enjoy, but have a feeling others might disagree. If you have heard them, what are your thoughts on them being on the Q or in the Columbus market? They actually play music through their show, unlike Bob and Tom. And, they're much funnier in my opinion. They are more "southern" focused, but I enjoy that.
Buckaroo said:Lex and Terry were very good when they were in Jacksonville, they'd be great!
The key word being "were" as they have grown stale.
I doubt the Columbus, OH market would be very kind to John Boy & Billy either. JB&B couldn't make it in Atlanta and that's still in the South.
faaradar said:I doubt the Columbus, OH market would be very kind to John Boy & Billy either. JB&B couldn't make it in Atlanta and that's still in the South.
What if John Boy Crenshaw and Billy Milligan teamed up? That might work.
John Boy & Billy are funny with their skits.......I listen to Eagle 107 in Wheeling when I am on the road East in the mornings, but get really sick of the NASCAR talk all the time and have to tune to something else.......Seems like that's all they focus on...Feel like I gotta put on a driver's ballcap and jacket.....I commented that it's all about NASCAR, and then when they end at 10am the first song you hear is rock, which goes against the grain.......
Bob & Tom are good, and I catch them when I am up North, WRKZ in Akron-Canton. I think the Q could benefit from a syndicated morning show now, but just can't see JB & B as one of them fitting in unless everyone in Cols is a NASCAR freak...
I do agree tho that the Q needs a change now. I have been a faithful listener since day one but have not had them on the dial for over 3 months......
Bob & Tom are good, and I catch them when I am up North, WRKZ in Akron-Canton. I think the Q could benefit from a syndicated morning show now, but just can't see JB & B as one of them fitting in unless everyone in Cols is a NASCAR freak...
I do agree tho that the Q needs a change now. I have been a faithful listener since day one but have not had them on the dial for over 3 months......
WRKZ is the callsign of The Blitz.meanstreet said:John Boy & Billy are funny with their skits.......I listen to Eagle 107 in Wheeling when I am on the road East in the mornings, but get really sick of the NASCAR talk all the time and have to tune to something else.......Seems like that's all they focus on...Feel like I gotta put on a driver's ballcap and jacket.....I commented that it's all about NASCAR, and then when they end at 10am the first song you hear is rock, which goes against the grain.......
Bob & Tom are good, and I catch them when I am up North, WRKZ in Akron-Canton. I think the Q could benefit from a syndicated morning show now, but just can't see JB & B as one of them fitting in unless everyone in Cols is a NASCAR freak...
I do agree tho that the Q needs a change now. I have been a faithful listener since day one but have not had them on the dial for over 3 months......
WRKZ is the callsign of The Blitz.........
Sorry, WRQK in AK/Can is who I meant. What do other people think Q-FM needs? Any ideas here?
Sorry, WRQK in AK/Can is who I meant. What do other people think Q-FM needs? Any ideas here?
meanstreet said:What do other people think Q-FM needs? Any ideas here?
By most accepted definitions, classic rock started in the late 60's. It peaked in the 70s and ended in the early 80s. The music is 30 to 45 years old. Without a mix of hair bands, grunge, harder rock and alt rock, the playlists are simply wearing thin and the audience is literally dying. It's happened to just about every style of music before classic rock, it will happen to classic rock as well. Classic Rock is one format I'd hate to program.
I agree classic rock is just one genre, and with the others mentioned, there can be a good mix of all those then and now formats that I feel would work. But, I'm no radio programmer, and it certainly would be tough..... Just a concerned listener who wants more AOR out of the Q and wonder what others think...I'm almost an hour away from Cols too, but not near a decent rock station locally..........
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