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Question about Boston MyTV affiliate

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Garrett

Nobody's realy tackled this question completely yet, so let me ask it straight forward...
Who would be a MyTV affiliate in the immediate Boston area? We know that WSBK TV 38 is probably out of the question (unless CBS can really come to the peace table with Fox).

So who's left?
68?
Or, is it possible that it is something that can be carried on HD 25.2?
Or, is MyTV going to be a long wait for Boston, just like with the original WFXT?
Anyone?
 
> Or, is MyTV going to be a long wait for Boston, just like
> with the original WFXT?

Actually WFXT was a Fox affiliate when the network started. I was in college and remember watching it on an old B&W console in the dorm lounge room. I can't remember if they had the WFXT calls at that point or if the News Corp. acquistion of the station had been completed. It took a couple of years in Providence before the channel 64 situation was straightended out enough to be on the air full-time and be an affiliate.
 
> > Or, is MyTV going to be a long wait for Boston, just like
> > with the original WFXT?
>
> Actually WFXT was a Fox affiliate when the network started.
> I was in college and remember watching it on an old B&W
> console in the dorm lounge room. I can't remember if they
> had the WFXT calls at that point or if the News Corp.
> acquistion of the station had been completed. It took a
> couple of years in Providence before the channel 64
> situation was straightended out enough to be on the air
> full-time and be an affiliate.
>

Channel 25 had the call letters WXNE before the Fox affiliation.
 
Not how I remember it.

> Actually WFXT was a Fox affiliate when the network started.
> I was in college and remember watching it on an old B&W
> console in the dorm lounge room. I can't remember if they
> had the WFXT calls at that point or if the News Corp.
> acquistion of the station had been completed. It took a
> couple of years in Providence before the channel 64
> situation was straightended out enough to be on the air
> full-time and be an affiliate.
>


WFXT was NOT a Fox affiliate when the network launched. They WERE an affiliate when the Fox Network launched a full schedule of programming. However, the first show for Fox to air was "The Late Show With Joan Rivers." When that show debuted, the sale of WXNE 25 to Rupert Murock was being held up by the FCC. As a result The Joan Rivers show was instead simulcast on WXKS (Kiss108) until the sale went though. In fact, I believe (and correct me if I'm wrong), that Channel 64 in Norwell was actually a Fox affiliate before Channel 25 was. The rest of the Fox Network did debut on WFXT 25 in the fall. And, as we all know, Joan didn't last the rest of the season, and the show became the forgettable Wilton-North Report (which many at Fox would probably like to forget).

Anyway, this has nothing to do with the question that I asked, can we stay on subject please?
 
> Nobody's realy tackled this question completely yet, so let
> me ask it straight forward...
> Who would be a MyTV affiliate in the immediate Boston area?
> We know that WSBK TV 38 is probably out of the question
> (unless CBS can really come to the peace table with Fox).
>
> So who's left?
> 68?
> Or, is it possible that it is something that can be carried
> on HD 25.2?
> Or, is MyTV going to be a long wait for Boston, just like
> with the original WFXT?
> Anyone?
>

My guess - WZMY.

After still stinging from being shutout of the CW network by CBS/Time Warner, somehow I really doubt that Fox is going to affiliate with any CBS owned stations for their new network and the Paxson family is too stubborn to give up on their network so I don't think it will 68/58/21 either (or 46 for that matter- do they still own that one?)

What is left? Not much. I imagine that Fox could put it on a digital subchannel however it would leave a lot of people out. Besides it would be a good compromise between them and Shooting Star (owners of WZMY.)
 
Huh?

WZMY IS NOT A BOSTON STATION!
Do you people not read what I'm asking?
WZMY would at best be no better than a cable station like WB100+ (or CW100+ I guess it would be called now).

So saying "WZMY" either proves that you don't understand what I'm asking, or don't live in the Boston area.

I'm asking if there is a "Boston over the air frequency." If not, then the answer is NONE, not WZMY...

Sorry for yelling.


> > Nobody's realy tackled this question completely yet, so
> let
> > me ask it straight forward...
> > Who would be a MyTV affiliate in the immediate Boston
> area?
> > We know that WSBK TV 38 is probably out of the question
> > (unless CBS can really come to the peace table with Fox).
> >
> > So who's left?
> > 68?
> > Or, is it possible that it is something that can be
> carried
> > on HD 25.2?
> > Or, is MyTV going to be a long wait for Boston, just like
> > with the original WFXT?
> > Anyone?
> >
>
> My guess - WZMY.
>
> After still stinging from being shutout of the CW network by
> CBS/Time Warner, somehow I really doubt that Fox is going to
> affiliate with any CBS owned stations for their new network
> and the Paxson family is too stubborn to give up on their
> network so I don't think it will 68/58/21 either (or 46 for
> that matter- do they still own that one?)
>
> What is left? Not much. I imagine that Fox could put it
> on a digital subchannel however it would leave a lot of
> people out. Besides it would be a good compromise between
> them and Shooting Star (owners of WZMY.)
>
 
Re: Huh?

> WZMY IS NOT A BOSTON STATION!

Neither is WNEU but it is the Boston DMA's full power Telemundo Affiliate.




> Do you people not read what I'm asking?
> WZMY would at best be no better than a cable station like
> WB100+ (or CW100+ I guess it would be called now).

And what is wrong with that? They have cable/satellite coverage through much of the DMA.


> So saying "WZMY" either proves that you don't understand
> what I'm asking, or don't live in the Boston area.

Just outside of Concord, NH. Lived in Southern NH all of my life.

> I'm asking if there is a "Boston over the air frequency." If
> not, then the answer is NONE, not WZMY...

Why just because it's tower is north of the Mass/NH border? What if their tower was in Methuen? Would that make it a Boston frequency?
 
Re: Huh?

> WZMY IS NOT A BOSTON STATION!
> Do you people not read what I'm asking?
> WZMY would at best be no better than a cable station like
> WB100+ (or CW100+ I guess it would be called now).
>
> So saying "WZMY" either proves that you don't understand
> what I'm asking, or don't live in the Boston area.
>
> I'm asking if there is a "Boston over the air frequency." If
> not, then the answer is NONE, not WZMY...
>
> Sorry for yelling.

WZMY IS a Boston market station. Whether its antenna is on the Pru, in Derry, NH, or on the south shore doesn't matter at all. It's in the DMA and would be eligible for cable carriage in greater Boston as a network affiliate. No odder than the market's Telemundo affiliate - from Merrimack, NH.

Same reason that we in NH get stuck having some shopping channel out of Norwell on cable. We're in the same DMA.

So, the suggestion of WZMY was not off base at all. It would be quite possible, actually.
 
Re: Not how I remember it.

> Anyway, this has nothing to do with the question that I
> asked, can we stay on subject please?

No.
 
Re: Not how I remember it.

> WFXT was NOT a Fox affiliate when the network launched. They
> WERE an affiliate when the Fox Network launched a full
> schedule of programming.

WXNE 25 became Fox 25 WFXT on Monday January 19, 1987. They at that point picked up Joan Rivers Late Show. When Fox launched in April they therefore of course picked that up Sunday nights and dropped religious Sundsy night shows.

> However, the first show for Fox to
> air was "The Late Show With Joan Rivers." When that show
> debuted, the sale of WXNE 25 to Rupert Murock was being held
> up by the FCC. As a result The Joan Rivers show was instead
> simulcast on WXKS (Kiss108) until the sale went though.

Actually it was on 1510 AM

> In fact, I believe (and correct me if I'm wrong), that Channel
> 64 in Norwell was actually a Fox affiliate before Channel 25
> was. The rest of the Fox Network did debut on WFXT 25 in the
> fall. And, as we all know, Joan didn't last the rest of the
> season, and the show became the forgettable Wilton-North
> Report (which many at Fox would probably like to forget).

Actually that was Channel 46 not 64 but they never picked up any Fox programming.


Also 64 WSTG Providence became WNAC and was sold September of 1986. Channel 64 had a full schedule of entertainment programming since the end of 1984. When they became WNAC many shows were dropped mostly classic sitcoms from Viacom.
 
> Nobody's realy tackled this question completely yet, so let
> me ask it straight forward...
> Who would be a MyTV affiliate in the immediate Boston area?
> We know that WSBK TV 38 is probably out of the question
> (unless CBS can really come to the peace table with Fox).
>
> So who's left?
> 68?
> Or, is it possible that it is something that can be carried
> on HD 25.2?
> Or, is MyTV going to be a long wait for Boston, just like
> with the original WFXT?
> Anyone?
>
Possibly 68 WPXB could pick up the programming. Also WFXT could air it late nights. Still maybe 38 WSBK could pick it up. Another option is to put it on Channel 50 in Derry, New Hampshire. Its also possible the programming may not air at all in Boston.
 
Re: Not how I remember it.

> > Actually WFXT was a Fox affiliate when the network
> started.
> > I was in college and remember watching it on an old B&W
> > console in the dorm lounge room. I can't remember if they
> > had the WFXT calls at that point or if the News Corp.
> > acquistion of the station had been completed. It took a
> > couple of years in Providence before the channel 64
> > situation was straightended out enough to be on the air
> > full-time and be an affiliate.
> >
>
>
> WFXT was NOT a Fox affiliate when the network launched. They
> WERE an affiliate when the Fox Network launched a full
> schedule of programming. However, the first show for Fox to
> air was "The Late Show With Joan Rivers." When that show
> debuted, the sale of WXNE 25 to Rupert Murock was being held
> up by the FCC. As a result The Joan Rivers show was instead
> simulcast on WXKS (Kiss108) until the sale went though. In
> fact, I believe (and correct me if I'm wrong), that Channel
> 64 in Norwell was actually a Fox affiliate before Channel 25
> was. The rest of the Fox Network did debut on WFXT 25 in the
> fall. And, as we all know, Joan didn't last the rest of the
> season, and the show became the forgettable Wilton-North
> Report (which many at Fox would probably like to forget).
>
> Anyway, this has nothing to do with the question that I
> asked, can we stay on subject please?
>
>
>>
>Actually, This is where Arsenioooooooooooooooooo Haaalllllllllllllll (Arsenio Hall) started.Then the show went into syndication with the Arsenio Hall Show. He took over after Joan and Fox Parted ways.

Joan claims FOX really screwed her. She cried about it for years.
 
> Nobody's realy tackled this question completely yet, so let
> me ask it straight forward...
> Who would be a MyTV affiliate in the immediate Boston area?
> We know that WSBK TV 38 is probably out of the question
> (unless CBS can really come to the peace table with Fox).
>
> So who's left?
> 68?
> Or, is it possible that it is something that can be carried
> on HD 25.2?
> Or, is MyTV going to be a long wait for Boston, just like
> with the original WFXT?
> Anyone?
>

I truly wish that WSBK becomes independent and not hooked up with an
affiliate. TV today isn't as good as before, and airing what was made in the '90s backwards would be better than 2006 crap. Do you believe two of the same shows every day would be successful unless they were really good?<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by upn38fan on 02/27/06 08:17 PM.</FONT></P>
 
I honestly don't understand your dream of this, other than perhaps it is some kind of nostalgia. But indpendent stations in my view were really nothing more than just a cut above public TV stations. Back in the days before Fox, UPN and WB, these stations (like TV38) had to operate on shoe string budgets to compete against big network affiliates like WBZ and WCVB. Let me ask you something, why do you think Fox and UPN came about? Indpendent stations JUMPED at the chance to become Fox affilates. And before that, some indpedent stations sued to wisk affiliations from other stations, like with XETV 6 versus KCST 39 and KUSI TV 51 in San Diego. Other independent stations were really former network stations that lost their affiliations for one reason or another (like KMSP 9 in Minneapolis, which lost ABC, when NBC went to Channel 11).

Yes, KTLA in LA, WGN in Chicago and a few others did manage to gain high profiles. But these stations, owned by big companies like Tribune were more exceptions than the rule. I'm not saying that WLVI never got ratings as an independent, but don't you think there's a reason why it was sold so many times before it became WB?

I'm sure that WSBK has a better position now that it's owned by CBS. But don't be fooled, WSBK is the less fortunate step child of WBZ and will be unless CBS makes some sort of deal with Fox, or if WSBK begins to air backed episodes of The CW. Things always seem better in our past. I do miss the old logo, and will be happy if it indeed is coming back. But I don't think that means I want them to revert to the old days of being a one horse operation (that is, an automated switcher hooked up to a VTR and a transmitter), which I suspect, when UPN isn't on the air, they probably are already.

Just my opinion on this. Surely someone has a better perspective about this than me?

> I truly wish that WSBK becomes independent and not hooked up
> with an
> affiliate. TV today isn't as good as before, and airing what
> was made in the '90s backwards would be better than 2006
> crap. Do you believe two of the same shows every day would
> be successful unless they were really good?
>
 
Re: Not how I remember it.

> > Anyway, this has nothing to do with the question that I
> > asked, can we stay on subject please?

--------------

> Shawn O'Domski responds

> No.
>
--------------


Don't ever expect Shawn to stay on topic. He's demonstrated his need to be difficult like he has here with his one word smart ass answer.




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