I actually thought the scene was funny even without the F word.
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Question about obscene content or cursing on the air.
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"Porn" is not the P-word we were talking about. And speaking of which, Chumbawamba's "Tubthumping" never got censored despite its constantly repeated refrain being "pissing the night away". But since they're British and it refers to drinking, I guess it's OK.
Begging Frank's indulgence for one moment (and please don't kill this post, because it took some time to type up)---I just found the latest ranking by QSR (Quick Service Restaurant) magazine, so we can finally land on hard numbers and current facts (because those matter). These are the 2020 numbers, published August 2021---next update will be this August.
Burger places only, by USA sales:
1. McDonalds ($40.5 billion--was #1 and $37.4 billion in 2017)
2. Wendy's ($10.2 billion---was #3 and $9.2 billion in 2017)
3. Burger King ($9.6 billion---was #2 and $10.0 billion in 2017)
4. Sonic ($5.6 billion---was #4 and $4.4 billion in 2017)
5. Jack in the Box ($3.6 billion---was #6 and $3.4 billion in 2017)
6. Dairy Queen ($2.9 billion---was #5 and $3.6 billion in 2017)
7. Whataburger ($2.6 billion---was #7 and $2.2 billion in 2017)
8. Hardee's ($2.0 billion---was #8 and 2.1 billion in 2017)
9. Culver's ($1.9 billion---was #10 and $1.4 billion in 2017)
10. Five Guys ($1.7 billion---was #9 and $1.43 billion in 2017)
11. Carl's Jr. ($1.5 billion---was #8 and $1.48 billion in 2017)
12. In-N-Out ($1.1 billion---was #13 and $647 million in 2017)
13. Checkers/Rally's ($854 million---was #12 and $844 million in 2017)
14. Steak 'n Shake ($800 million---was #11 and $939 million in 2017)
15. Freddy's ($643 million---didn't make the cutoff in 2017)
16. White Castle ($565 million---was #14 and $547 million in 2017)
If you bundle Hardees' and Carl's this year, you're at #6. So my apologies to Semoochie.
I'm not quite sure why Hardee's and Carl's went to reporting separately. Looking through QSR, every food item that gets print is something both restaurants are doing.
We forgot DQ before, which admittedly makes a lot of its money from ice cream, but does sell burgers.
Summary: McDonald's is four times as big in sales as the next guy, Wendy's and Burger King are in a serious fight for #2. Sonic's doing half what they are and Jack and Carl's/Hardees' are only doing 60% of Sonic---which is surprising to me.
Everything below that on the list gets hurt by being regional, but In-N-Out damn near doubled its revenue in three years.
(we now return you to obscenity and profanity, already in f&$#ing progress)
Sorry, Frank -- michael hagerty made me do it:
- None of the DQs in my immediate area sell burgers or other foods - They're smaller shops with only soft serve and frozen treats. If I remember correctly from my youth where there were lots of DQ locations, only the DQ Brazier shops sell hot foods as well. A fun fact - The "soft serve" that DQ uses in their shakes, cones and other treats can not legally be called "ice cream" per FDA regulations - because it's not.
- There were a few Hardees where I grew up, but all are now shuttered. I remember nearly everything I ordered there from the burgers to the roast beef sandwiches to breakfast sandwiches being fairly tasteless compared to BK and McD's..but the ones in that area did have a heavily advertised special in the early 90s that was well suited for broke college students - 2 burgers and 2 fries for $2.
- I recently had an ad for Steak & Shake pop up in my Instagram feed - trying to sell franchises. Supposedly you could get in for $10k, they'd hire staff, train everyone and stock the place initially and you'd get 50% of the profits once in operation. You had to be a full-time owner with no other obligations. I'm sure there was a lot of fine print, because if owning a Steak & Shake franchise was that inexpensive to start and easy to maintain, lots more people would be doing it.
- I'm surprised to see White Castle so low on the list. While they don't have a huge number of locations, you do find them seemingly everywhere, sometimes in the most unexpected cities and locations.
- There are a few others like Smashburger and BurgerFi that I expected to see on the list, but didn't make the top 16, I guess.
Now back to your profanity-laden tirade.
DAMMIT! (hopefully my outburst keeps us on topic)
Mentally remove DQ from the list, then.
Steak & Shake is reportedly in trouble.
Smashburger hit a real rough patch a couple of years back. Also, burger chains that don't have drive-thrus (Smashburger, Habit), tend to do less business---which is why Shake Shack has just unveiled a model for a drive-thru. Five Guys is an outlier in terms of how well they do as a pure walk-in.
There's clearly an appetite
for this conversation---can it get moved to one of the "non-radio" forums?You really can't help yourself with this burger thing, can you, Michael? - And the continuous urge to keep posting about it in a thread supposedly about profanity. Ever tried maybe talking to someone? I'm sure there's a word for it. Burger-philiac, maybe?Mentally remove DQ from the list, then.
Steak & Shake is reportedly in trouble.
Smashburger hit a real rough patch a couple of years back. Also, burger chains that don't have drive-thrus (Smashburger, Habit), tend to do less business---which is why Shake Shack has just unveiled a model for a drive-thru. Five Guys is an outlier in terms of how well they do as a pure walk-in.
There's clearly an appetite
Hey, #@%$ you, Mikey Radio! A guy tries to answer a few questions....
(desperately trying to keep us on topic--nothing personal)
Seriously, Frank, I'm sorry.
I know it's extra work, but this really should get sent to the non-radio forum (and me to my room without supper).
I know it's extra work, but this really should get sent to the non-radio forum (and me to my room without supper).
At one time, you could type that on here without it censoring. Someone pointed that out to me. If you typed it as one word, it was fine. But as two words, the first one would be censored.
In the last season of St. Elsewhere, Dr. Westphal dropped his trousers in the final scene of an episode, and mooned Dr. Gideon. He said "you can kiss my ass!" And since that was the last scene of that episode, it freeze-framed while they ran a couple of closing credits over it. As far as I know, that episode was never shown again in reruns, anywhere.
There used to be a restaurant here in Nashville that had ads on benches, saying something to the effect of "the best sandwich that you will ever eat with your pants on!"
And with that, I have merged both major topics within this thread.
And with that, I have merged both major topics within this thread.
White Castle has closed some locations here in the Nashville area, including the one that used to be the closest to me. It also had Church's Chicken in it, despite there (briefly) being another freestanding Church's Chicken just a mile or so down the road.
So in keeping with this thread, I say "DAMMIT" because I really liked White Castle, although this is really Krystal country, even though the service at the Krystal nearest me is too damn slow! (Kept it on-topic for you!) And other Krystals near me have closed, too. DAMMIT!
Steven Spielberg, as I recall, insisted "E.T." be shown unedited. It had the S-word in it along with a couple of other words kids shouldn't hear. And that's supposed to be a kids' movie!
On the subject of several uses of the F-word in one scene, "Schindler's List" had that. That too was unedited and may have been the first TV-M (why did they change?) program on network TV. It didn't seem that offensive. Seeing a man and a woman do it with most if not all of the parts on display didn't seem necessary to my understanding of what Schindler did.
I think all the parts were shown when the Jews were being mistreated, but that wasn't sexual.
Oh please. It's impossible to shield kids from naughty words. Parents concerned about it, should just teach their kids that it's not okay to use that sort of language. One can't hide from hearing things in public or media. Just getting their kid a smartphone or allowing them on the public Internet will expose them to far worse than an occasional s*it, or f-bomb.
I'm a lot more concerned about what my grandchildren might hear from the "preachers" who advocate book-burning and intolerance of members of the LGBTQ community than about whether a few cuss words are heard.
My mother taught me that those words were very weak as the people who used them did not have the knowledge and vocabulary needed to create convincing arguments.
Like I said, it's seen as a kids' movie and shouldn't have those words in it for that reason.
I have to say this is one of the most entertaining threads ever! An intertwining of two F-words: "Food" and "F--k."
I find it ridiculous that there's more focus on the words themselves than on the intent. Take the S-word, for example. It's a no-no to use it on the air, but "feces" is OK. So it's alright to call someone a "piece of feces" on the air but if someone says, "Oh, s--t," that's could generate a big fine.
I find it ridiculous that there's more focus on the words themselves than on the intent. Take the S-word, for example. It's a no-no to use it on the air, but "feces" is OK. So it's alright to call someone a "piece of feces" on the air but if someone says, "Oh, s--t," that's could generate a big fine.
Well, you really only have three choices. You can:
1) Take every word banned and ban every synonym for that word.
2) Remove all restrictions on language.
3) Allow the commonly-agreed upon proper words but ban the offensive slang.
When the Communications Act was drawn up (and no, it doesn't name the words), the "proper" words for all the offensive slang existed. So far, no one has suggested anyone get fined for using them. However, network censors (who, as I said before, are there to protect audience and revenue) wouldn't allow "pregnant" for decades. There was a minor freak-out over proper terms for genitalia---especially in entertainment programming---as late as the 1980s.
None of them are perfect---language and society evolves, so the stuff that would get your license yanked the next day in 1934 and would get you fined in 1974 might not be all that big a deal today (which is why there's a safe harbor exception).
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Well, now, hang on. "E.T." was rated PG on its release. PG stands for "parental guidance". If there was nothing for a parent to be concerned about, it would be rated G. Spielberg didn't set out to make a movie for kids---he made a movie about a kid---largely based on himself and an imaginary friend he created to deal with the trauma of his parents' divorce.
This was never intended to be a Disney flick for all ages.
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