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Question about obscene content or cursing on the air.

Hardee's sold a lot of locations in West TN to the franchise owners of Burger King in our area and have been extremely limited in their locations since. They tried expanding again in recent years but have some have closed since then.

They had a roast beef sandwich that I really liked in the 90's but they dropped it, probably after the merger with Carl's Jr., but it was brought back on a limited basis and dropped again.
Several in the other side of the state closed and are sitting empty.

In the 70s, Hardees bought several Burger Chef locations, if not the whole chain.
 
If they are expanding why do they ignore Washington State, the 2nd largest state in the west? I can’t figure this one out.
Because they expand very slowly, building distribution centers for every area.

I was surprised when they moved into Oregon, as much of their imaging and marketing is pure "sunbelt". But Oregon and Denver are sort of at the fringe and I guess they believe that with bigger indoor facilities (remember, when they started they were drive-through only, and most shops had two drive through lanes!) will compensate for people not wanting to sit in their car in the cold for 30 minutes waiting for their double-double or their animal style.

I was also surprised that they skipped Albuquerque on their way to Texas. I assumed that they could not justify building a distribution center for just one market (ABQ and Santa Fe) with no other major city nearby. In Colorado, they have a string of cities, from Pueblo to Colorado Springs to Denver to Boulder to Fort Collins. And in Texas, the corridor from DFW to HOU is full of medium and large cities.

While there is nothing written down, they halted expansion that was not already in construction in Oregon two years ago. They may be concerned about social unrest in markets like Portland and Seattle that can impact people going out for a meal. Again, this is my observation but that may be part of their reasoning in moving east rather than north.
 
They expand in a linear fashion. They had nothing north of the San Francisco Bay Area for the longest time. About four years ago, they opened Ukiah, California, then three in southern Oregon.

Part of it has to do with the company's hard-and-fast rule that they won't open a restaurant more than a day's drive from their own distribution facilities. They bought a piece of land in Tualitin (suburban Portland) a few months ago. If they establish a presence in Portland, they'll put a distribution facility there and be in a position to expand up into Washington State.
That is interesting. I noticed that they had slowed down Portland area store openings in the last two years, but if they are building a distribution center, they are obviously optimistic about the market.

I looked at their store map on the company website, and they don't tend to have many central city locations. There are only bout 4 stores that don't have drive-through and their historical relationship with cars and drive-throughs may be a factor in their location selections.

Note that on their merchandise page, most of the apparel has old cars and nostalgia artwork as the core feature. Whether this is a current philosophy, an honor to the founder or a well defined corporate image, those folks have a real skill in making In-N-Out perceived as different and better from the other burger vendors.
 
In-N-Out has been expanding. They opened 13 locations in 2020. There were 140 in the year 2000. There are now 358 and a newly-built distribution center in Southern Colorado has opened up New Mexico as a likely candidate for expansion.
And that is all the more astounding because they do not franchise operations. And they do extensive in-house training, even having the In-N-Out University in LA. The top management is full of people who started at the store level and worked their way up within the culture.
 
That is interesting. I noticed that they had slowed down Portland area store openings in the last two years, but if they are building a distribution center, they are obviously optimistic about the market.

I looked at their store map on the company website, and they don't tend to have many central city locations. There are only bout 4 stores that don't have drive-through and their historical relationship with cars and drive-throughs may be a factor in their location selections.

Note that on their merchandise page, most of the apparel has old cars and nostalgia artwork as the core feature. Whether this is a current philosophy, an honor to the founder or a well defined corporate image, those folks have a real skill in making In-N-Out perceived as different and better from the other burger vendors.
It’s very much a drive-thru model. Most stores will be suburban.

Btw, I don’t have intel that they’re building a distribution center in Portland yet, but if this follows the usual pattern, they’ll do three or more stores in suburban Portland, build distribution and look toward southern Washington.
 
To get the thread back on track, here is the infamous "bull***t" add minor presidential candidate Barrry Commoner made in 1980.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6d2NSJ8lQ
They were aired on CBS and NBC radio, although some stations refused to clear them.
I was at a NBC Radio News affiliate at the time---it was the first commercial in the top-of-the-hour news. I had the GM on the phone before the ad was over. Nothing we could do.

To be fair, Pink Floyd crushed that barrier (at least on FM) with "Money" seven years before.
 
I was at a NBC Radio News affiliate at the time---it was the first commercial in the top-of-the-hour news. I had the GM on the phone before the ad was over. Nothing we could do.

To be fair, Pink Floyd crushed that barrier (at least on FM) with "Money" seven years before.
Because it would violate Section 315 of the Communications Act, right? (Which as I understand it, means all candidates for an office have equal opportunity to buy commercial time and prohibits censorship of these broadcasts). There was an even more infamous case in 1972, when Georgia Senatorial candidate JB Stoner aired blatantly racist ads that used the N-word. Many stations tried to avoid airing the ads, but the FCC cited Section 315.
 
This thread is a good example of why your moderators don't arbitrarily and capriciously close threads or delete posts.

Here we have a subject that has spawned several interesting sidebars that are a bit "off track" but, left alone, the thread came back home and is still relevant. Most threads do that, so we allow little excursions to spontaneous topics... and we learned a bit about hamburgers!
 
This thread is a good example of why your moderators don't arbitrarily and capriciously close threads or delete posts.

Here we have a subject that has spawned several interesting sidebars that are a bit "off track" but, left alone, the thread came back home and is still relevant. Most threads do that, so we allow little excursions to spontaneous topics... and we learned a bit about hamburgers!
And since you've opened the door, David, I'd like to plead my case on a RD rule. When a jock, well-known in a market, dies, if it's posted in that market's board, it's moved by the moderators to the "In Memoriam" thread at the bottom of the forums---and missed by a huge percentage of readers. I can see the logic in most cases...but when it's (for example) Billy Pearl or Mark Elliott or Sam Riddle (three recent well-known to legendary L.A. jocks), would the moderators please consider the profile of the person involved?
 
And since you've opened the door, David, I'd like to plead my case on a RD rule. When a jock, well-known in a market, dies, if it's posted in that market's board, it's moved by the moderators to the "In Memoriam" thread at the bottom of the forums---and missed by a huge percentage of readers. I can see the logic in most cases...but when it's (for example) Billy Pearl or Mark Elliott or Sam Riddle (three recent well-known to legendary L.A. jocks), would the moderators please consider the profile of the person involved?
Without getting too far into "how the sausage is made" we are discussing the difference between local talents and national ones. Good suggestion, Michael.
 
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And since you've opened the door, David, I'd like to plead my case on a RD rule. When a jock, well-known in a market, dies, if it's posted in that market's board, it's moved by the moderators to the "In Memoriam" thread at the bottom of the forums---and missed by a huge percentage of readers. I can see the logic in most cases...but when it's (for example) Billy Pearl or Mark Elliott or Sam Riddle (three recent well-known to legendary L.A. jocks), would the moderators please consider the profile of the person involved?
I agree if a Jock has only worked in a single market for much of his/her career and did little outside of that. However, sometimes the obit gets posted in the forum for one of the markets they worked in, then either the same person or someone else will post it in the In Memoriam section. In those cases it may make sense to merge the two.

In the case of Mark Elliott, I never once heard his work on stations in the LA market, simply because I didn't live there when he was on the air...But you mention Mark Elliott to me and I instantly perk up and say "Oh yeah, the V/O guy who did all the trailers and promos for the Disney movies!" In his case, he's known for other things and more widely than just a former jock in the LA radio market.
 
In the case of Mark Elliott, I never once heard his work on stations in the LA market, simply because I didn't live there when he was on the air...But you mention Mark Elliott to me and I instantly perk up and say "Oh yeah, the V/O guy who did all the trailers and promos for the Disney movies!" In his case, he's known for other things and more widely than just a former jock in the LA radio market.
Yes, but he spent five years at KHJ (1970-73 and 1975-77) when that station was still very much a factor, and people who frequent the L.A. board might not frequent "In Memoriam" or the forums dedicated to V/O talent.

I agree, with jocks like Mark, it gets complicated (he was also at KFRC and CKLW and a bunch more), but that's (I think) the logic that created this issue. I mean, we can say Sam Riddle was the producer of "Star Search", or that Charlie Tuna was the off-camera announcer for seven seasons of "Scrabble", but I really believe that, if a talent was at a station with a significant audience for a decent amount of time, a post about their passing should be in that market's forum as well.

If Mark had gotten an award and I posted it in the L.A. forum, referencing his work at KHJ, it would stay there.
 
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And since you've opened the door, David, I'd like to plead my case on a RD rule. When a jock, well-known in a market, dies, if it's posted in that market's board, it's moved by the moderators to the "In Memoriam" thread at the bottom of the forums---and missed by a huge percentage of readers. I can see the logic in most cases...but when it's (for example) Billy Pearl or Mark Elliott or Sam Riddle (three recent well-known to legendary L.A. jocks), would the moderators please consider the profile of the person involved?
I Second That Emotion, particularly if the person who has passed was currently or recently working in a market. That should be on that market's board as well as the In Memorium IMO
 
I agree if a Jock has only worked in a single market for much of his/her career and did little outside of that. However, sometimes the obit gets posted in the forum for one of the markets they worked in, then either the same person or someone else will post it in the In Memoriam section. In those cases it may make sense to merge the two.

In the case of Mark Elliott, I never once heard his work on stations in the LA market, simply because I didn't live there when he was on the air...But you mention Mark Elliott to me and I instantly perk up and say "Oh yeah, the V/O guy who did all the trailers and promos for the Disney movies!" In his case, he's known for other things and more widely than just a former jock in the LA radio market.
Is there a cross-reference function?
 
I agree, with jocks like Mark, it gets complicated (he was also at KFRC and CKLW and a bunch more), but that's (I think) the logic that created this issue. I mean, we can say Sam Riddle was the producer of "Star Search", or that Charlie Tuna was the off-camera announcer for seven seasons of "Scrabble", but I really believe that, if a talent was at a station with a significant audience for a decent amount of time, a post about their passing should be in that market's forum as well.
Is there a cross-reference function?
If nothing else, @michael hagerty has raised a point that's started some healthy banter, including from a moderator. In the end, as long as those who've passed get the respectful posting they deserve, that's what counts. For people like Mark or Charlie O'Donnell who were known nationally for their V/O work as well as in a certain market, it does raise the question where it's best posted. Personally, when I log onto the RD site, I always click on "New Posts" so it shows me everything posted since I last logged off, in all the various forums both nationally, within the various cities, etc. so I'd most likely see it regardless.
 
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