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question about radio contest / prize

I've got a question and figured some of you radio folks here could help me.

What can a listener do if a station is not delivering on a prize won during an on-air contest. The station says they'd take care of it soon, but never never have.....several months go by...and they don't really return phone calls or emails. What rights do the contest winner have in a situation like this. What advice do you have for such a person?

Thanks.

Gary123
 
My first thought is..."Don't EVER listen to that station again!"

Beyond that, there are those rare creatures that have both legal AND radio experience on this board...
maybe you'll hear from just that sort soon.

I'm sure in the end, burden of proof will be on you.

As it turns out...occasionally radio brass can be weasel-ly at times.

;D
 
As far as proof, I've got a recording of them calling me to tell me I won....also a few dozen emails from them stating that they'd get back to me soon with more info regarding the prize (but then they didn't). I'd figure that would make it fairly easy to prove that they intended to deliver but just haven't gotten around to it.
 
I imagine that "Andy Wise On Your Side" from News Channel 3, or any TV news station not affiliated with that particular radio station would love to champion your cause. The last thing any company wants is that type of "we don't care about you" story, especially in todays economic climate.

K~
 
gary123 said:
I've got a question and figured some of you radio folks here could help me.
What can a listener do if a station is not delivering on a prize won during an on-air contest. The station says they'd take care of it soon, but never never have.....several months go by...and they don't really return phone calls or emails. What rights do the contest winner have in a situation like this. What advice do you have for such a person? Thanks. Gary123
OK, I’ll bite. First off, I've been a broadcaster most of my life. Also, I'm not a lawyer, but a student of the law. This is general information and shold not be considered legal advice in any stretch of the imagination. Use at your own risk.
Gary, I need to know a little more about what you “won”. Bear with me, if you will. I need to ask a couple of questions that may seem inconsequential, but your responses will help me in crafting some “free” advice or, if nothing else, perhaps, some suggestions.
What did you win? A CD, a Big Mac, a trip, a car, cash?
How did you win the prize? Did you “call in to win”? Did you enter some sort of drawing? Did you win this prize using some kind of skill? We’re you competing with others for this prize?
Was this prize offered exclusively by the radio station or was it in conjunction with an advertiser or music label?

If the prize is of nominal value (little or nothing) your chances of bringing pressure on the station is just about nil. If this prize is worth $50 to $100, you may have some avenues of opportunity. If the prize is like a cruise or a car, I have some other suggestions. Further, if a third party, like an advertiser or other entity, there’s an opportunity there.

First thing I would suggest is to gather your information and write a letter, not an email, but a letter, to the General Manager of the station. Do not waste your time with jocks, promotion directors or “assistant” anythings. The reason for this is to follow normal, established routes of business communication. This may help later if you chose to pursue legal action later. In this letter, introduce yourself; indicate that you won this contest on this date and from which personalities. Be as precise as you can as to time and date. Tell the General Manager that you want to bring this situation to his/her attention. Politely ask for the GM to look into the situation and indicate that you would like the courtesy of a response. Keep the tone of your letter business-like and do not, DO NOT, threaten to do anything. Just keep it civil. Send the letter as a registered letter, return receipt requested. The Post Office can help you with this. This may be all you need to do.

If you do not receive a response in a reasonable amount of time (my preference is 10 business days), you may want to follow up with a little “stronger” letter. Remind the GM that you did, indeed, win a prize and that you’ve waited a reasonable amount of time to receive it. Also note in your letter that you “have other avenues available to you” but you would rather give the station the benefit of the doubt, and handle things in a civil and business-like manner.

Now, here’s where the size of the prize matters. If it’s a Big Mac, or a cheesy CD, cut your losses, and just tell everyone what happened to you.
If your prize is more substantial, lets say, anything over $100, consider taking them to Small Claims court. Most jurisdictions allow you to represent yourself (assuming you’re over 18) and sue for the prize or the value of the prize. In the State of Indiana, were I am, you can sue for up to $6,000, the limit in your area will most likely be different. Usually filing fees are less than $35. Be sure to have you ducks in a row, and this is where a recording could help. Again, it’s up to you.

One last thing. If an advertiser or third party is involved, consider involving them. If you write a letter to the station’s GM, copy the advertiser. Imagine you are an advertiser on the station and you get a demand letter like we’ve talked about. This will allow you to “leverage” your position with the station.

Be persistent but do not stalk. Do not go to station remotes and cause a disturbance. Do not make threats you cannot, or should not, carry out.

As a last resort you may want to contact local TV media, but that can make you look like a sore loser. Also, don’t count on the FCC to help you. While they take a dim view of deceptive contesting, they will almost always not get involved in forcing a station to perform in resolving what is really a civil matter.

Best of luck.
 
Well, I am more than a "student of the law." I actually have letters after my name.

Now, I will refrain from getting too deep. Legal advice on public boards is worth exactly what you pay for it, and I am certainly not giving any advice. I can only tell you what I would do.

I would write the GM and explain the situation. CC: the PD and Promotions Director (who will probably need a change of pants at that point). I'll bet it ends there. But, if it didn't, I would certainly write the FCC. No; it wouldn't get my prize, but it sure would be annoying to station at Renewal time. I would copy the Public File, the GM and the Corporate Office concurrently. Knowing that the FCC Rules address this, I would even quote the appropriate Rules section, 47 CFR §73.1216. That always raises red flags.

There is a lot I could say about lawsuits, but I'll spare you. Such talk is a bit esoteric, and probably exceeds the scope of this board.

Good luck with it.

DE
 
It's amazing what you can accomplish by sending a letter with a "CC" at the bottom. In this case, the letter to the GM with a CC to the FCC and the Attorney General of Tennessee. The FCC and AG may not get back to you, but I bet the GM will in short order.
 
DeadElvis said:
Well, I am more than a "student of the law." I actually have letters after my name.
Now, I will refrain from getting too deep.
Thank you for putting me in my place, counselor. I did indicate that I am not currently a practicing attorney and was careful to caution that I was not offering legal advice. My only intention was to offer an option or two that "Gary" might consider. It would appear that you and I agree that a well-drafted letter might be all it takes to prod the station into honoring their commitment to "Gary".
I offered the avenue of Small Claims since that strategy was used successfully against station I used to, years before, manage.
Since you don't personally know me DE, you might want consider reserving judgment of people you are not acquainted with. There is a diverse audience of people who read and post here. Some are fortunate, like you, to have the letters after their names. Some don't. Others have chosen to remove said letters from the end of their names, and still others, have had them removed for them by certain bodies of authority.
If I am misinterpreting your post, I, sir, apologize and wish you well.
Regards.
 
Gary,

It really does matter how you won the contest. I remember hearing a few times about someone with apparently too much time on their hands - somebody would call you at home and say "congrats! you won XYZ from our station! Come pick it up/we'll mail it to you/call the front desk tomorrow" and it was all bogus. Ticked off a lot of listeners who were sure they'd just won a cd/car/cruise prize pack.

Soooo....tell us more...
 
Well, you know, Bev...

That's an excellent point. One would hope, though, that if there were some bogusness (is that a word?), the PD or Promotions Director would have at least gotten back to the putative winner.

Details?

DE
 
DeadElvis said:
Well, you know, Bev...That's an excellent point. One would hope, though, that if there were some bogusness (is that a word?), the PD or Promotions Director would have at least gotten back to the putative winner.
Details?
DE
An excellent idea, DE. It's still hard to imagine someone stiffing a listener on a contest prise in this day and age. I'm all ears, but that's another thread.
 
Here is what I would do:

1) Find out the GM's name and contact info. Write a letter explaining the situation and request response within 7 business days. I bet this takes care of it.

2) File a complaint with your state's Attorney General (nice call Trapper). This will not cost you a thing and they WILL follow up and WILL require the radio station to respond.

Come back and update us if you need a 3, 4 or 5.
 
Did you win a Mr Pride car wash or a round of golf from the Rainman?
 
What can a listener do if a station is not delivering on a prize won during an on-air contest. The station says they'd take care of it soon, but never never have.....several months go by...and they don't really return phone calls or emails. What rights do the contest winner have in a situation like this. What advice do you have for such a person?

Maybe you got in ahead of the canned contestant who got the prize anyway. Happens on a station about 50 miles up the road from me everyday. Hope you didn't give personal information beyond that phone number and e-mail.
 
Thanks for all the replies everyone. Here's a little more info:

I won a small prize by being the correct caller one morning. This was in early 2008. Winning this small prize qualified me to be in the running for a larger prize....a trip (hotel stay+ airfare according to their website and emails they sent me). I believe somewhere around 25 other listeners qualified....one per morning. I never got the small prize, valued at $50. When I went to the station, they said it'd be mailed. Never got it. When I called they said they'd check on it and get back to me....never did. Went back to the station and got the same answers as before.

Then station called me live on the air a few weeks later to tell me I won the grand prize, my choice of a trip. I gave them my info and they said they'd get me more info later. Finally after several months I got the trip info and gave them my requested dates. By the time they "got back to me", those dates were too close to book.

So here we are again, months have gone by. I have requested more dates from the station GM, and I never did get the small prize. Every time I call about the trip I get people's voicemail and never a call back. When I send emails I usually get no reply until I send it a 3rd of 4th time.... and then I get the "we're working on it and will get back to you soon" stuff that I've gotten for months.

They have apparently booked the hotel stay and the other activities that I requested, but not the airfare. The dates are FAST approaching....like in just a few days. What should I do if they do not book the flights, and the hotel dates are not transferable once they were booked? I really don't want to pay for my own flights since that was supposed to be included. If I don't go however, I lose the hotel stay and other event tickets.

Believe it or not, this is a REAL station that's been on the air for years that you've probably all listened to....it's not some made-up station playing from some guy's basement or anything like that.

I'm just not sure what more I can do when I'm already dealing with the "honcho" of that station.
 
I'm just not sure what more I can do when I'm already dealing with the "honcho" of that station.

When it comes time for the station to renew its license (you can find that info out from the Internet, the station itself by just calling and asking the secretary, or from the FCC) send a letter to the FCC objecting to the renewal of their license. For whatever it may be worth you just don't know how many prizes you never got that have all your information on them. Just a suggestion. You might as well resolve that you are not getting the prize that you won fair and square. And yes, the FCC will definitely take seriously your protest of the license renewal, particularly in light of the fact that you are getting the run around and somebody is getting your trip - that they have your information on.
 
Here's the latest. The GM of this station ignored me until the booked hotel stay came and went. The station never booked the airfare, so I didn't get there. They said they were sorry they didn't get to it in time. I guess the year since I won was not enough time....and the phone calls and emails all month long didn't give them enough time either

After I went back to the station AGAIN, someone else basically told me that since I missed the hotel stay, it's gone and they can't give me that trip. They said they might can find me a trip to somewhere else since they failed to book the airfare to make THIS trip happen .... but not to the same city. Apparently I just missed out on it because they suck. Then they have not gotten back with me for 2 weeks.

So now I wasted my vacation time and sat home since they did not book the flight in time to partake in the hotel stay/event tickets they booked.

Does this seem right to you guys?

How does one go about filing a complaint with the FCC? I filled out a form on the FCC site 2 weeks ago but have not heard anything. I used this form: http://esupport.fcc.gov/complaints.htm
 
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