• Get involved.
    We want your input!
    Apply for Membership and join the conversations about everything related to broadcasting.

    After we receive your registration, a moderator will review it. After your registration is approved, you will be permitted to post.
    If you use a disposable or false email address, your registration will be rejected.

    After your membership is approved, please take a minute to tell us a little bit about yourself.
    https://www.radiodiscussions.com/forums/introduce-yourself.1088/

    Thanks in advance and have fun!
    RadioDiscussions Administrators

question?

M

mustangrio

Guest
the Beatles had a song i believe it was "They say its your birthday" or something like that.
The question i have does this song belong on oldies radio or not?
I don't think so but what do I know
 
> the Beatles had a song i believe it was "They say its your
> birthday" or something like that.
> The question i have does this song belong on oldies radio or
> not?
> I don't think so but what do I know
>
Beatles + 1968 = Oldie! "Birthday" is from the album entitled, "The Beatles", commonly known as the "white album".
 
I think Birthday does not belong on an oldies station. As far as I know, it did not chart. It is good for Classic Rock and I guess anything is all right for Jack and Bob.

> the Beatles had a song i believe it was "They say its your
> birthday" or something like that.
> The question i have does this song belong on oldies radio or
> not?
> I don't think so but what do I know
>
<P ID="signature">______________
[email protected]</P>
 
> > the Beatles had a song i believe it was "They say its your
>
> > birthday" or something like that.
> > The question i have does this song belong on oldies radio
> or
> > not?
> > I don't think so but what do I know
> >
> Beatles + 1968 = Oldie! "Birthday" is from the album
> entitled, "The Beatles", commonly known as the "white
> album".
>
It could be played on oldies radio when the morning show is reading the list of celebrity birthdays that many morning shows seem to do!
 
"Birthday"

Why not play it? It certainly would not be in any sort of everyday rotation
but it's another one of those memorable Beatles hits that didn't need to chart to be popular to play here and there.


> the Beatles had a song i believe it was "They say its your
> birthday" or something like that.
> The question i have does this song belong on oldies radio or
> not? I don't think so but what do I know
>
 
obsession with charts

"In My Life" didn't chart either-- thing that doesn't belong on Oldies?
If you do, I feel sorry for you because it's been one of the Beatles' highest-
testing songs for the past 10 years.

This "chart" obsession will positively KILL this format, guys. Get off it.
Listeners don't care about "the charts"- why do you?

> I think Birthday does not belong on an oldies station. As
> far as I know, it did not chart.
 
> > > the Beatles had a song i believe it was "They say its
> your
> >
> > > birthday" or something like that.
> > > The question i have does this song belong on oldies
> radio
> > or
> > > not?
> > > I don't think so but what do I know
> > >
> > Beatles + 1968 = Oldie! "Birthday" is from the album
> > entitled, "The Beatles", commonly known as the "white
> > album".
> >
> It could be played on oldies radio when the morning show is
> reading the list of celebrity birthdays that many morning
> shows seem to do!
>
"Birthday" was played on Top 40 stations when it was new!
 
Re: "Birthday"

> Why not play it? It certainly would not be in any sort of
> everyday rotation
> but it's another one of those memorable Beatles hits that
> didn't need to chart to be popular to play here and there.

WMJI used to always play it once a day (or so it seemed--it's one of my least favorite Beatles songs, and I'm a Fab Four fanatic). It takes a little over two minutes out of the day, and makes the station think it's meant for whoever's birthday is that day. I have no problem with it. And it fits format.
 
Re: obsession with charts

[Listeners don't care about "the charts"- why do you?]


Exactly which listeners are you talking about? If it's the listener whose perception of a good "oldie" is a song some Oldies radio P.D. has decided he should hear for the last 20 years, then you are correct. But if you're talking about the listener who actually participated in that chart (i.e., bought the record or played it on the juke box) then the chart is extremely important. "Jack" radio has finally figured this out.
 
> > > > the Beatles had a song i believe it was "They say its your
> > > > birthday" or something like that.
> > > > The question i have does this song belong on oldies radio or
> > > > not?
> > > > I don't think so but what do I know

> > > Beatles + 1968 = Oldie! "Birthday" is from the album
> > > entitled, "The Beatles", commonly known as the "white
> > > album".
> > >
> > It could be played on oldies radio when the morning show is
> > reading the list of celebrity birthdays that many morning
> > shows seem to do!
> >
> "Birthday" was played on Top 40 stations when it was new!

If it's a Beatles' song, it was (almost by definition) a hit one way or another, regardless of whether or not it was released as a single.

Also, the Underground Sunshine had a Top-30 hit with this song in the summer of 1969. "Birthday" was their only hit AFAIK.
 
Re: obsession with inaccurate charts

> [Listeners don't care about "the charts"- why do you?]
>
>
> Exactly which listeners are you talking about? If it's the
> listener whose perception of a good "oldie" is a song some
> Oldies radio P.D. has decided he should hear for the last 20
> years, then you are correct.

No significant market PD does this. They test the songs with local lsiteners. If you truly believe otherwise, you are building a case on a totaally false premise.

> But if you're talking about
> the listener who actually participated in that chart (i.e.,
> bought the record or played it on the juke box) then the
> chart is extremely important. "Jack" radio has finally
> figured this out.

In the 50's and 60's, the charts were highly manipulated, by a variety of factors. First was the habit of labels of overshiping product, to produce apparent sales. Second was station reporting that included paper adds, payola and other problems of the 50's and 60's. Third was the fact that not everyone is a record buyer, then or now. Charts of the 50's and 60's are very, very, very suspect. Third was a label trick of giving free product if the store reported sales on a record that was not selling. In other words, the charts from that era were near BS on anything outside the Top 15 to 20 songs.

Today, we find out what songs to play not from charts or sales figures but by asking the listener to sample every song and getting a score that indicates how much a listener "would like to hear a song on the radio today." This is exactly what the Jack stations have done, too.

Yesterday does not matter. Desire to hear today makes a song a hit or not a hit.
>
 
obsession with inaccurate charts

thanks for more reason when it comes to using charts, David.


>
> In the 50's and 60's, the charts were highly manipulated, by
> a variety of factors. First was the habit of labels of
> overshiping product, to produce apparent sales. Second was
> station reporting that included paper adds, payola and other
> problems of the 50's and 60's. Third was the fact that not
> everyone is a record buyer, then or now. Charts of the 50's
> and 60's are very, very, very suspect. Third was a label
> trick of giving free product if the store reported sales on
> a record that was not selling. In other words, the charts
> from that era were near BS on anything outside the Top 15 to
> 20 songs.
>
> Today, we find out what songs to play not from charts or
> sales figures but by asking the listener to sample every
> song and getting a score that indicates how much a listener
> "would like to hear a song on the radio today." This is
> exactly what the Jack stations have done, too.
>
> Yesterday does not matter. Desire to hear today makes a song
> a hit or not a hit.
> >
>
 
Status
This thread has been closed due to inactivity. You can create a new thread to discuss this topic.


Back
Top Bottom