Questions for a newstalk consultant

[jas2525]

Or maybe this thread should be titled: "Questions for Holland Cooke"

Regardless.....

I just tuned into the Limbaugh show and literallyno more than 20 seconds in, I hear him talking again about Sandra Fluke.

Is that wise? Should he be keeping this alive...or instead pretend like it never happened?

Also, after listening for about 10 minutes, I thought to myself: "Rush sounds so bitter and so angry and so absolutely full of himself...he's insufferable. Who can possibly listen to this for an extended period of time?"

Who, Holland, who?

 

[Bongwater]

"Rush sounds so bitter and so angry and so absolutely full of himself...he's insufferable. Who can possibly listen to this for an extended period of time?"

I've been wondering this the whole time he's been nationally syndicated.......

 

[TheBigA]

My theory about this is he's preaching to his fan base. His fan base loves it when he does this.

If you're a fan of the Dixie Chicks, you loved it when they said they're not ready to make nice. Everybody else just rolled their eyes.

But I agree it's not wise, and isn't going to help him with advertisers or the general public.

 

[MC]

David Frum, not a media consultant, said Rush can increase his TSL (time spent listening) to make up for a declining market share. Hardcore fans listening longer to make up for fewer "causal listeners" not listening at all. The new Huckabee show might eat into this past dynamic, according to From.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newswe...ckabee-brings-on-rush-limbaugh-s-decline.html


Bigger markets may have seen an economic and ethnic demographic shift. Suburbs have gotten "poorer" and ""urban areas" richer to some extent. Suburbs: upside down mortgages, expensive commutes, shuttered strip malls, etc. (e.g. Stockton, CA) Urban areas: yuppie influx, high end businesses obtaining redevelopment incentives, better real estate market, "walk to work" commutes, high end stores and restaurants. (e.g. San Francisco, CA) So fewer suburbanites listening longer to make up for high end urban people who don't listen at all. This map shows that Limbaugh need people in the red areas to listen longer to make up for fewer people listening in the blue areas.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/interactives/campaign08/election/uscounties.html

 

[Holland Cooke]

Rush had a helluva run.
2 decades +.

What repertoire can stay en vogue forever?

 

[del_griffith]

Rush had a helluva run.
2 decades +.

What repertoire can stay en vogue forever?

Holland, as much as I love reading what your present here and beyond, that doesn't answer the OP's question.

 

[Holland Cooke]

RE "that doesn't answer the OP's question. "

Not sure who "the OP" is but here's more-more-more HC-on-Rush:
http://hollandcookemedia.wordpress.com/2012/03/03/rush-limbaughs-imus-moment/

Mangia, mangia...

 

[jas2525]

Re: RE "that doesn't answer the OP's question. "

Not sure who "the OP" is but here's more-more-more HC-on-Rush:
http://hollandcookemedia.wordpress.com/2012/03/03/rush-limbaughs-imus-moment/

Mangia, mangia...

Uh...the "OP" is the "Original Poster.
And that would be me.

Just curious if you think Rush should stop bringing Sandra Fluke's name up AND why do YOU think it is that people continue to listen to Rush, in spite of the fact that he has become exponetially more nasty and negative over the years.

He really is a shell of the much more pleasant guy he was when he really took off 20 years ago. He seems to have totally sold out to the lunatic fringe.

 

[Holland Cooke]

RE "Uh...the 'OP' is the 'Original Poster.'"

Sorry.
I musta been absent the day that was explained.

In Ontario, it's short for "the cops." And KNOW that -- as you're zipping-up the QEW from Buffalo to Toronto -- the OPP will be clocking you, especially if you have NY plates.

(QEW: "Queen Elizabeth Way")
(OPP: "Ontario Provincial Police")

RE my-advice-for-Rush: I'm not dispensing, but sure-am listening-with-interest to his nuance, now that Bain has assigned that Crisis Control consultant to advise him. And as every consultant knows, "all we can do it advise..."

 

[del_griffith]

Sorry Holland. Thought you knew what OP was.

While not a bad move, having a crisis consultant does seem out of character for Rush with his "by your bootstraps, rugged individualism, no one advises me" ethic that he presents. I believe in years past I've heard him blast celebrities that have gotten into trouble and had crisis control consultants issuing releases about their clients to manage perception. But I've not heard that since the rehab days when they employed a crisis consultant for that one too.

 

[jas2525]

So is it the crisis management adviser that is telling Rush to keep bringing up Sandra Fluke, and to NOT drop the whole thing?

Maybe it's a "crisis milking" advisor that they hired.

 

[ropertex]

"Rush sounds so bitter and so angry and so absolutely full of himself...he's insufferable. Who can possibly listen to this for an extended period of time?"

I've been wondering this the whole time he's been nationally syndicated.......

I am surprised there was not a national outcry shortly after the invasion of Iraq. A Vietnam vet called in...and got the typical "Thank you, Sir, for your service to our country as a true patriot" UNTIL the vet said that our soliders in Iraq would NOT be welcomed with flower petals and chocolates, as Rumsfeld and Cheney said, but that rather we were getting into another Vietnam where thousands of lives of our young men and women would be sacrificed on foreign wars run by chickenhawks who send OTHER PEOPLE'S KIDS to their deaths. Rush did a 180 turn on the caller, calling him wrong, stupid, practically a traitor. This was years before the "phony soldiers" controversy. I guess that comment either went under the radar, or the media rolled over from the Bush administration's warnings to "watch what you say" and "you are either with us, or with the terrorists."

 

[Northwest Bobby]

"Rush sounds so bitter and so angry and so absolutely full of himself...he's insufferable. Who can possibly listen to this for an extended period of time?"

I've been wondering this the whole time he's been nationally syndicated.......

I am surprised there was not a national outcry shortly after the invasion of Iraq. A Vietnam vet called in...and got the typical "Thank you, Sir, for your service to our country as a true patriot" UNTIL the vet said that our soliders in Iraq would NOT be welcomed with flower petals and chocolates, as Rumsfeld and Cheney said, but that rather we were getting into another Vietnam where thousands of lives of our young men and women would be sacrificed on foreign wars run by chickenhawks who send OTHER PEOPLE'S KIDS to their deaths. Rush did a 180 turn on the caller, calling him wrong, stupid, practically a traitor. This was years before the "phony soldiers" controversy. I guess that comment either went under the radar, or the media rolled over from the Bush administration's warnings to "watch what you say" and "you are either with us, or with the terrorists."

Thats one of those he maybe said that...but I don't remember Rush recalling that with out an actual broadcast transcript....if Rush did say that he should have been pulled off the air.

or maybe Media Matters was off that day....?

 

[radiobum]

Rush, Savage Hannity, Boortz and Levin and their local 'versions' will be viewed years from now as Joe McCarthy is now.

 

[HotTalker]

Rush, Savage Hannity, Boortz and Levin and their local 'versions' will be viewed years from now as Joe McCarthy is now.

You do realize that McCarthy was right in almost every instance, right?

 

[Goat Rodeo Cowboy]

Rush, Savage Hannity, Boortz and Levin and their local 'versions' will be viewed years from now as Joe McCarthy is now.

You do realize that McCarthy was right in almost every instance, right?

It will be a good thing for serious historians to once again shovel through the debris left over from the McCarthy era, the McCarthy "sytle".

I don't doubt that he was right about some people that he accused. But he was like a police chief who shows up at a high rise apartment building and announces: "There are at least six gangsters living in this building, so we shall destroy the building." So they did. And killed the six gangsters. And 994 innocent non-guilty, untried citizens.

McCarthy decided to cure a problems with bull-in-the-china shop style of destroying people lives by publishing lists with their names on the list. The public was expected to assume everyone on the list was guilty. Without the messy business of having a trial.

I remember running the board at a small station as we carried the network feeds of hearing from the era. We have something going on today in the life of our nation that to me is just like sitting through the movie for the third time. It's called The Tea Party. Maybe 60 years from now you younger folks can read the work of historians and figure out what the Tea Party got right, and where the Tea Party had the integrity of a $3-dollar bill.

 

[jas2525]

Ironically, the government tyranny that the Tea Party constantly squawks about, would pale in comparison to the degree of tyranny this country would suffer if the Teabaggers had control.

 

[TheBigA]

Funny thing about tyranny. It's all personal. Tyranny is fine when people like the tyrant. Once he does something people don't like, it's time for a change. Off with his head!

 

[HotTalker]

Ironically, the government tyranny that the Tea Party constantly squawks about, would pale in comparison to the degree of tyranny this country would suffer if the Teabaggers had control.

Ironically, the name calling you constantly squawk about pales in comparison to the name calling you engage in. Try making a point without calling someone "teabagger" or "fat".