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Why do you have to be so mean to each other?

There's some really mean people here and on Lisa Wood's blog, (which you know I am a fan of) and I'm sure that "Wooddespiser" is from this board also.

I have actually learned A LOT about radio from the stuff here, it just seems like it's more BS than news and it's a pain to wade through all of the insults (does anyone else feel this way?).

I also wonder why it's ok here to bash on certain people, but others and the entire post gets deleted? That should be an across the board rule.

I enjoy reading the radio related things here, I just wonder why it has to be so hard for everyone to get along?
 
OK - since most of the others will probably take a shot at you for asking the question, I'll try to give you an honest answer.


> I enjoy reading the radio related things here, I just wonder
> why it has to be so hard for everyone to get along?
>

Because for the most part, radio is populated with a lot of big egos. As is TV. But deep down inside, these people are probably the most insecure of them all.

So they strike out to protect that fragile little ego.
 
> OK - since most of the others will probably take a shot at
> you for asking the question, I'll try to give you an honest
> answer.
>
>
> > I enjoy reading the radio related things here, I just
> wonder
> > why it has to be so hard for everyone to get along?
> >
>
> Because for the most part, radio is populated with a lot of
> big egos. As is TV. But deep down inside, these people are
> probably the most insecure of them all.
>
> So they strike out to protect that fragile little ego.
>
Yeah..what he said..but still it's sad for the few of us that DON'T have over inflated egos
 
Because for the most part, radio is populated with a lot
of big egos. As is TV. But deep down inside, these people are
probably the most insecure of them all.

So they strike out to protect that fragile little ego.

> Yeah..what he said..but still it's sad for the few of us
> that DON'T have over inflated egos

Rob & Eastsidah, thank you very much for the honest, non-smartass responses.

I pretty much figured I was going to get railed on or made fun of. I guessed that egos were the main reason, or bitterness for not being in radio anymore and that they're just clinging onto it here.

Doesn't it seem that more would be learned and accomplished if people would just get over that and have a little respect?

Seems so simple, but I'm not a "radio guy" so maybe that's why I don't get it.
 
> Why do you have to be so mean to each other?
>
> There's some really mean people here and on Lisa Wood's
> blog, (which you know I am a fan of) and I'm sure that
> "Wooddespiser" is from this board also.
>
> I have actually learned A LOT about radio from the stuff
> here, it just seems like it's more BS than news and it's a
> pain to wade through all of the insults (does anyone else
> feel this way?).
>
> I also wonder why it's ok here to bash on certain people,
> but others and the entire post gets deleted? That should be
> an across the board rule.
>
> I enjoy reading the radio related things here, I just wonder
> why it has to be so hard for everyone to get along?

I think it has a lot to do with certain assumed "professionals" in this biz. The real professionals can see the validity in Lisa's blog, even if they don't agree with everything she says whereas the assumed ones are so insecure with themselves and their careers that they depend on technology and worn out formulas that have changed little since the 1980s. Many of them have lost whatever creative spark they may have had and see radio strictly as a numbers game. Meanwhile, the radio has turned into aural wallpaper. And in the age of Wi-Fi, iPods and fast MP3 downloads, that's not good. Or smart.

There are those of us who think local radio deserves and in fact, needs to evolve a little bit more rapidly than this. The JACK concept of a huge playlist was a bold step in the right direction, but the snotty voice over is annoying as ever and it won't serve the JACKs forever.

HD Radio won't do a damn thing to reverse the decline of terrestrial radio until some serious use is made of those sub-channels as well as the main one. I firmly believe the salvation of local radio depends on local personalities and for all the $$$ in sheer profit the radio industry raked in yearly during the late '90s, there should be far more radio jobs. Again, we run into the cronies on top who are more concerned with lining their wallets than creating innovative local radio. They wanted more and more stations, to hell with changing technology and a rise in the sophistication of radio listeners to seriously want to make use of this new stuff. Let's face it, if people were so content with radio as-it-is, XM, Sirius, DMX, web radio and other radio alternatives wouldn't be anywhere near as mainstream as they are now. And that's the cold hard truth.

Radio can be saved and still be a relevant force 10 years from now. But in order to do that, it needs a hell of a lot more local leaders than national followers. And a lot more than just a back alley facelift on the conventional pop/rock formats. I believe there are people who can do that, but it seems like they are always stymied by our assumed "professionals". I guess, like I said, they really are scared for their jobs and really have no better ideas. So they go to the next to last refuge for scoundrels-numbers.

And finally, there's the FCC (a service of Clear Channel Entertainment.) The FCC and it's appointed power that be of the Bush administration needs to keep their mitts off the programming end of radio. Explicit talk/lyrics have been broadcast for decades on European, Australian and Canadian radio stations. Their kids pretty much turned out OK. Radio needs to have an edge in an increasingly edgier society. The broadcast TV industry has had to learn that from cable. The radio industry needs to learn from it's alternative competition and overseas stations finding popularity via the internet. When Wi-Fi really takes off and hi-fi internet radio becomes truly portable, rendering the Podcast to the same heap as the cassette single, terrestrial radio will have no other choice if it wants to stay a major player.

KEXP (yes, this is a praise) does this remarkably well for it's format and uses it's available technology to it's fullest potential, being able to serve both a local and international audience. I think the same concept can be applied to any radio format. KEXP has a very strong local listenership for a non-com. And a large international audience. They remain consistant with tailoring a local identity to their format that appeals to their local audience, which doesn't sound like anything their internet listener's stations locally sound. It's an aural vacation to the Emerald City.

And it's hard not to notice the difference. Many of their internet listeners have excellent alternative college/public stations where they live, some with almost similar formats. But KEXP brings something different to the table. I thought about this the other night and wondered. I've done a lot of listening to stations around the USA and the world and noticed a lot of the major commercial rock/pop stations sound the same everywhere. The same playlists, the same big booming male voice-overs, the same "Mix", "Star", "The (Insert Favorite Animal Here)", etc. Just add FM frequency and a zany morning zoo. Yawn.

Radio can do better than this.

KEXP is locally programmed and locally influenced. Anyone anywhere can hear the same monotonous mix of hits over and over again on a Star, Mix or a JACK/BOB wherever they live. What would really stand out is if there can be a commercial station in Seattle that doesn't sound like the one in Portland or San Fransisco, a local flavor to the station's sound and music of it's own that hasn't been ripped off by everybody and recycled into the ground. That's going to be radio's biggest challenge. To end the cookie cutter crap and start having a strongly ORIGINAL local identity to their formats.




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> Why do you have to be so mean to each other?

Radio is loaded with egos, most fragile, and an equal amount of insecurity.


> There's some really mean people here and on Lisa Wood's
> blog, (which you know I am a fan of) and I'm sure that
> "Wooddespiser" is from this board also.

As you probably know, I'm not a big fan of hers. But she can do whatever she wants. Personal attacks are unwarranted, but opposing views about what she perceives to be what's wrong in radio are fair game.


> I have actually learned A LOT about radio from the stuff
> here, it just seems like it's more BS than news and it's a
> pain to wade through all of the insults (does anyone else
> feel this way?).

Honestly, you couldn't learn 1/8th of what radio is all about through this (or any other) board. It's pretty easy to spot on this site who work in radio now (the minority) and the ones who don't.


> I also wonder why it's ok here to bash on certain people,
> but others and the entire post gets deleted? That should be
> an across the board rule.

You can slam your head against the wall about free speech or whatever here. The cold hard truth is that the admins have the right to delete posts at their whim.
Sure it wins the short-term battle, but in the long run hurts credibility.


> I enjoy reading the radio related things here, I just wonder
> why it has to be so hard for everyone to get along?

Always easier to talk tough on the internet. Combined with the fragile egos associated with radio, that's the toxic mix you get sometimes.
 
> > Why do you have to be so mean to each other?
> >
> > There's some really mean people here and on Lisa Wood's
> > blog, (which you know I am a fan of) and I'm sure that
> > "Wooddespiser" is from this board also.
> >
> > I have actually learned A LOT about radio from the stuff
> > here, it just seems like it's more BS than news and it's a
>
> > pain to wade through all of the insults (does anyone else
> > feel this way?).
> >
> > I also wonder why it's ok here to bash on certain people,
> > but others and the entire post gets deleted? That should
> be
> > an across the board rule.
> >
> > I enjoy reading the radio related things here, I just
> wonder
> > why it has to be so hard for everyone to get along?
>

Speaking as a listener, Larry's got the right idea about the current state of radio.


> I think it has a lot to do with certain assumed
> "professionals" in this biz. The real professionals can see
> the validity in Lisa's blog, even if they don't agree with
> everything she says whereas the assumed ones are so insecure
> with themselves and their careers that they depend on
> technology and worn out formulas that have changed little
> since the 1980s. Many of them have lost whatever creative
> spark they may have had and see radio strictly as a numbers
> game. Meanwhile, the radio has turned into aural wallpaper.
> And in the age of Wi-Fi, iPods and fast MP3 downloads,
> that's not good. Or smart.
>
> There are those of us who think local radio deserves and in
> fact, needs to evolve a little bit more rapidly than this.
> The JACK concept of a huge playlist was a bold step in the
> right direction, but the snotty voice over is annoying as
> ever and it won't serve the JACKs forever.
>
> HD Radio won't do a damn thing to reverse the decline of
> terrestrial radio until some serious use is made of those
> sub-channels as well as the main one. I firmly believe the
> salvation of local radio depends on local personalities and
> for all the $$$ in sheer profit the radio industry raked in
> yearly during the late '90s, there should be far more radio
> jobs. Again, we run into the cronies on top who are more
> concerned with lining their wallets than creating innovative
> local radio. They wanted more and more stations, to hell
> with changing technology and a rise in the sophistication of
> radio listeners to seriously want to make use of this new
> stuff. Let's face it, if people were so content with radio
> as-it-is, XM, Sirius, DMX, web radio and other radio
> alternatives wouldn't be anywhere near as mainstream as they
> are now. And that's the cold hard truth.
>
> Radio can be saved and still be a relevant force 10 years
> from now. But in order to do that, it needs a hell of a lot
> more local leaders than national followers. And a lot more
> than just a back alley facelift on the conventional pop/rock
> formats. I believe there are people who can do that, but it
> seems like they are always stymied by our assumed
> "professionals". I guess, like I said, they really are
> scared for their jobs and really have no better ideas. So
> they go to the next to last refuge for scoundrels-numbers.
>
> And finally, there's the FCC (a service of Clear Channel
> Entertainment.) The FCC and it's appointed power that be of
> the Bush administration needs to keep their mitts off the
> programming end of radio. Explicit talk/lyrics have been
> broadcast for decades on European, Australian and Canadian
> radio stations. Their kids pretty much turned out OK. Radio
> needs to have an edge in an increasingly edgier society. The
> broadcast TV industry has had to learn that from cable. The
> radio industry needs to learn from it's alternative
> competition and overseas stations finding popularity via the
> internet. When Wi-Fi really takes off and hi-fi internet
> radio becomes truly portable, rendering the Podcast to the
> same heap as the cassette single, terrestrial radio will
> have no other choice if it wants to stay a major player.
>
> KEXP (yes, this is a praise) does this remarkably well for
> it's format and uses it's available technology to it's
> fullest potential, being able to serve both a local and
> international audience. I think the same concept can be
> applied to any radio format. KEXP has a very strong local
> listenership for a non-com. And a large international
> audience. They remain consistant with tailoring a local
> identity to their format that appeals to their local
> audience, which doesn't sound like anything their internet
> listener's stations locally sound. It's an aural vacation to
> the Emerald City.
>
> And it's hard not to notice the difference. Many of their
> internet listeners have excellent alternative college/public
> stations where they live, some with almost similar formats.
> But KEXP brings something different to the table. I thought
> about this the other night and wondered. I've done a lot of
> listening to stations around the USA and the world and
> noticed a lot of the major commercial rock/pop stations
> sound the same everywhere. The same playlists, the same big
> booming male voice-overs, the same "Mix", "Star", "The
> (Insert Favorite Animal Here)", etc. Just add FM frequency
> and a zany morning zoo. Yawn.
>
> Radio can do better than this.
>
> KEXP is locally programmed and locally influenced. Anyone
> anywhere can hear the same monotonous mix of hits over and
> over again on a Star, Mix or a JACK/BOB wherever they live.
> What would really stand out is if there can be a commercial
> station in Seattle that doesn't sound like the one in
> Portland or San Fransisco, a local flavor to the station's
> sound and music of it's own that hasn't been ripped off by
> everybody and recycled into the ground. That's going to be
> radio's biggest challenge. To end the cookie cutter crap and
> start having a strongly ORIGINAL local identity to their
> formats.
>
>
>
>
> >
>
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