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Quinn and Rose

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Quinn and Rose are a bunch of tools. Im tired of the Rush wannabee blowhard and his sanctimonious soccer mom sidekick. Last night they played a parody bit to the tune of Barbara Ann. The vocals were instead saying,"Bomb Iran". And they were laughing! These so called Christians. What a bunch of hypocrits! Absolutely pathetic!
 
They are nothing more than some C minus conservitive talkers. Their Columbus Ohio affiliate is barely showing up in the ratings book. There is no reason to listen to them. Jim BTW is a pro war draft dodger that how much integrity he have.
 
"Bomb Iran" is a novelty record by Vince Vance and the Valiants. It was released in 1979, in the middle
of the Iran Hostage Crisis. It was not created by Quinn, and it predates his talk-show career by about 14 years. I have a copy on 45 that I saved for posterity. The flip-side, "Bye Bye Baby" is not a bad tune.

Quinn has been a Pittsburgh radio fixture forever. He worked with Rush when both of them were DJ's at the Groovy Q-vie, KQV-AM, in the early 70's. KQV was the preeminent Top 40 station at the time. Quinn has since worked for just about every station in town, and his persona has kind of evolved over the years as he moved around. Rose hosted a music video show on a local Christian TV station.

I don't much care for Air America, but I don't go around attacking their hosts as being tools and
draft dodgers.
 
Im not a Liberal but Im tired of these phony Conservatives giving the Republicans a bad name. Air America at least has more professional, talented people. Even if I do not agree with everything that is said I know Im listening to legitimate, intelligent, professionals.
 
Look out, we've got a "drpickle post heads up!"

Nice to see a thread agreeing with me about Quinn and Rose. I tried listening to them. I probably have heard two months worth of shows over the times I've tuned them in, but I just can't. It's absolutely horrid. Jim is a bore to listen to, and admits he listens to other hosts like Beck and Rush and Hannity, and I can't stand his hacky "heads up" themes. It sounds like the only reason Rose is there is because a PD thought it was a good idea and that she would attract female listeners. Another hard right wing radio show where the liberals are communists. Wonderful. Could someone please explain why they're syndicated to any more than 10 markets? And while they're at it, their home station should at least stick to the clock schedule. It's rare that their affiliates rejoin them on time, when after the 10 second station ID you'll usually hear part of a promo, or possibly Pittsburgh traffic, followed by a bumper for "FM Newstalk 104.7."

Sorry, we've got a "livingfruitvirus is about to go to bed heads up." Goodnight folks.
 
Funny thing is that CC is the one syndicating the show. They don't advertise the show on their Premiere Radio Network/Syndication promotional materials. That how bad it is. Westwood One a highly successful radio syndicator is handling the promotional materials for Air America.
 
They are not syndicated by Premiere; that is why they are not listed on the website. The reality is that CC used a pseudo-syndication effort as part of a total package to lure Quinn and Rose to 104.7 in Pittsburgh, where they do perform well. CC figured that putting a free morning show on throwaway stations in Akron, etc., wouldn't hurt anyone and might save them a couple bucks.
 
willcail said:
Funny thing is that CC is the one syndicating the show. They don't advertise the show on their Premiere Radio Network/Syndication promotional materials. That how bad it is. Westwood One a highly successful radio syndicator is handling the promotional materials for Air America.

Several Clear Channel shows are like that. Both of Todd Schnitt's (aka MJ Kelli) shows in Tampa are syndicated the same way. So is Dan Sileo out of Orlando, and the Monsters from Orlando before they lost all their affiliates. Sean Valentine out here in California is syndicated to six or seven other radio stations in the west. Recently Elvis Duran from WHTZ and Paul and Young Ron from WBGG in Miami have been adding stations. None of the shows that CC syndicates like this have network-wide advertisements either. The local stations get all the time.
 
livingfruitvirus said:
Several Clear Channel shows are like that. Both of Todd Schnitt's (aka MJ Kelli) shows in Tampa are syndicated the same way. So is Dan Sileo out of Orlando, and the Monsters from Orlando before they lost all their affiliates. Sean Valentine out here in California is syndicated to six or seven other radio stations in the west. Recently Elvis Duran from WHTZ and Paul and Young Ron from WBGG in Miami have been adding stations. None of the shows that CC syndicates like this have network-wide advertisements either. The local stations get all the time.

You are right, Virus, although for a long time, Valentine was the afternoon guy at KIIS and they patched his interviews together with a little VT and made it a morning show. I lived in Cleveland, where he's on WAKS, at the time, and followed it more closely then. It has to be done somewhat similarly now, because his morning show on Star had a co-host, and his show now on MyFM doesn't start until 9am on the east coast. Maybe you could fill me in.

I think the idea here is that all of these shows aren't really "syndicated" in the traditional sense, in which the goal is as many clears as possible. The goal is a mostly intra-company simulcast arrangement for cost-cutting purposes. Schnitt may be decent, but you can't tell me WIOD and WFLA couldn't afford their own afternoon talents that would be just as good. CC figures that since 99% of regular listeners don't know (or care), they might as well save the cash. Also, like Schnitt and Dan Sileo, I do think we'll see more regional "syndication" in the future, but it won't be for the purpose of attaining a huge national audience... shows like these were never intended to leave Florida (or fill-in-the-blank).

While we're on the topic, John and Ken's "weekend" show is also heard on KSTE/Sacramento, where, just like Armstrong and Getty do a "show" on KFI with patched together material from their morning show, J&K use the interviews they recorded earlier in the week for their pre-recorded Saturday show on KFI and throw in a liner or two saying KSTE to make it sound local. Bill Handel, who is truly syndicated, pre-records Handel on the Law, but it airs a week late because he does a special local-sounding version for KFI which is then edited with national intros and phone numbers for affiliates.

BTW, for Will, the fact that WW1 reps AAR doesn't mean that much. They do it because they get paid. Jones and Jones MediaAmerica also rep and sell inventory on over 100 national shows.
 
KJCB said:
livingfruitvirus said:
Several Clear Channel shows are like that. Both of Todd Schnitt's (aka MJ Kelli) shows in Tampa are syndicated the same way. So is Dan Sileo out of Orlando, and the Monsters from Orlando before they lost all their affiliates. Sean Valentine out here in California is syndicated to six or seven other radio stations in the west. Recently Elvis Duran from WHTZ and Paul and Young Ron from WBGG in Miami have been adding stations. None of the shows that CC syndicates like this have network-wide advertisements either. The local stations get all the time.

You are right, Virus, although for a long time, Valentine was the afternoon guy at KIIS and they patched his interviews together with a little VT and made it a morning show. I lived in Cleveland, where he's on WAKS, at the time, and followed it more closely then. It has to be done somewhat similarly now, because his morning show on Star had a co-host, and his show now on MyFM doesn't start until 9am on the east coast. Maybe you could fill me in.

Can't. I've never heard Valentine's show nor do I know when he's on. Mornings is it? I've only sampled a small amount of local radio since I moved to Los Angeles this past fall.

KJCB said:
I think the idea here is that all of these shows aren't really "syndicated" in the traditional sense, in which the goal is as many clears as possible. The goal is a mostly intra-company simulcast arrangement for cost-cutting purposes. Schnitt may be decent, but you can't tell me WIOD and WFLA couldn't afford their own afternoon talents that would be just as good. CC figures that since 99% of regular listeners don't know (or care), they might as well save the cash. Also, like Schnitt and Dan Sileo, I do think we'll see more regional "syndication" in the future, but it won't be for the purpose of attaining a huge national audience... shows like these were never intended to leave Florida (or fill-in-the-blank).

That sounds like the true intention. Although, Quinn and Rose are on a clunker Salem station in Minneapolis-St. Paul, and on a Radio Livingston station in Rochester. Schnitt started out locally on WIOD until Glenn Beck fled WFLA for Premiere, and then Todd took that slot as well. I'm sure those stations could afford local programming there, but he does so well for both stations that it's an "if it ain't broke.." situation. What I'd rather they do is try some local evening programs. I don't think any exist in Miami. I'd support it.

Unfortunately, since I can see the business side of this, it seems the main reason Sean Hannity is on both IOD and FLA delayed to evenings is to keep him from competing in afternoon drive, because the rival AMs would jump at the chance to throw him up against Schnitt. Since they snagged Hannity they eventually had to take on Mark Levin as well. Schnitt's also on in some of the states bordering Florida, and the rumor is he's going to be absorbed by Premiere Radio soon, so that would make it "true" syndication.

As for WFLA, well, find Don62 and he'll moan about that station for hours. It may only have 4 hours of local programming a day, but damn if it doesn't bring in huge ratings every quarter.

KJCB said:
Bill Handel, who is truly syndicated, pre-records Handel on the Law, but it airs a week late because he does a special local-sounding version for KFI which is then edited with national intros and phone numbers for affiliates.

Yes I've heard both versions. Even the local one can be pre-recorded. In fact Handel's not even in studio til 7 AM. There's also less show and more commercials per hour in the local version, so when they do the national one they have to mix-and-match callers. Bill actually takes calls for Handel on the Law off-air following his local Thursday show so they can be plugged in to the next show. However, Premiere really, really, really has to change the damn bumper music on his national version. They've been using the same set of music segments for every Saturday show for as long as I can remember.
 
You're right, KFI's version of the show is only about 34-35 minutes, vs. 39-40 minutes on Premiere. That national bumper music does sound weak... same cuts every week at the same stopsets. I guess they just have a bank of calls, like Delilah, they pull from to puff up the national show for an extra five minutes.

Also, I didn't think Handel went in at all on Saturdays, that the whole thing was recorded. I could see 9-11am, since hours 4 and 5 are KFI only, and because he does Law Days from 9-11am every once in awhile.
 
Handel comes in Saturdays because that's where he takes the calls. He takes an hour on Thursday but that's it outside Saturday, except for some special occasion where he needs to fill more time. About 90% of his calls come from KFI listeners, because even though he's on over 100 stations, I believe only a little more than ten stations actually run the show Saturday mornings.

So anyway, with my own morning show of preference taking off Presidents' Day I turned on Quinn and Rose to discover they were live. I hadn't listened in a long time so I figured I'd see what was up. First off Jim opened saying "It's the War Room with Quinn and Rose, coast to coast and ocean to ocean on XM Satellite Radio channel 158..." Gee. I'm sure the affiliates love hearing that. Not to mention the top of their website says to listen to them on XM Radio (their home station is WPGB 104.7 FM in Pittsburgh). And Jim even said they broadcast the show on XM for free, so they're getting nothing from it. Going on, it wasn't that different. Rose piped up once in a long while, and I don't know how long they've had a mooing "BS detector," but it sounded stupid. Jim doesn't seem to care for McCain either. No shock.
 
Well Jim is nothing more than a pro war hack that never served his country. Didn't he heard that Communism is dead. China have a stock market and a Wal-Mart. That doesn't sound commie to me.
 
I may be wrong on Handel, although it's been mentioned that his banter with Leo Laporte is recorded during the week, which wouldn't be necessary if he was actually there at 10:55 on Saturday morning.

Not many stations do run him live, which I've always wondered about (unless, like many, they're selling those hours), until I thought most of the thing was recorded. Yes, most of the callers are KFI, although, I presume if someone called when the show was delayed, the KFI screener could take the number down and give it to the HOTL producer, much like other advice shows do. The problem is that outside of WSB, which moves him around, and a couple other pretty good stations, he's on, by his own admission, in a number of places where there are more cows than people.
 
willcail said:
Well Jim is nothing more than a pro war hack that never served his country. Didn't he heard that Communism is dead. China have a stock market and a Wal-Mart. That doesn't sound commie to me.

China also has a massive internet firewall bureaucracy that would monitor everything you say in these
posts, and will come to get you in the middle of the night if they don't like what they see.
 
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