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QWK Rock morning show unlistenable

S

Spackler

Yesterday and today, the B&T show on QWK was completely unlistenable. The audio was so weak and garbled, it may as well have been off completely.

Who is minding there store over there? Nobody thought to pull the show and track some music, or maybe call in an actual jock to fill in until the problem is fixed?

The fact that nobody cared enough to do anything about it speaks volumes.
 
> Yesterday and today, the B&T show on QWK was completely
> unlistenable. The audio was so weak and garbled, it may as
> well have been off completely.

> Who is minding there store over there? Nobody thought to
> pull the show and track some music, or maybe call in an
> actual jock to fill in until the problem is fixed?
>
> The fact that nobody cared enough to do anything about it
> speaks volumes.

You did not mention calling the receptionist to tell anyone either. That speaks volumes as well.

Sounds like you like to listen to Bob & Tom but you could not be bothered to make a simple phone call...here allow me to assist so you don't hurt yourself picking up the phone book: 237-9800.

Once again, Mr. Spackler, it seems you just have a desire to take potshots at Forever Broadcasting.

Is there no one in your age group who is ever satisfied, ever willing to do a little bit extra to help out? Or is it all the same entitlement mentality that only lives to complain about what you are NOT getting?
 
> > Yesterday and today, the B&T show on QWK was completely
> > unlistenable. The audio was so weak and garbled, it may as
>
> > well have been off completely.
>
> > Who is minding there store over there? Nobody thought to
> > pull the show and track some music, or maybe call in an
> > actual jock to fill in until the problem is fixed?
> >
> > The fact that nobody cared enough to do anything about it
>
> > speaks volumes.
>
> You did not mention calling the receptionist to tell anyone
> either. That speaks volumes as well.

> Sounds like you like to listen to Bob & Tom but you could
> not be bothered to make a simple phone call...here allow me
> to assist so you don't hurt yourself picking up the phone
> book: 237-9800.
>
> Once again, Mr. Spackler, it seems you just have a desire to
> take potshots at Forever Broadcasting.
>
> Is there no one in your age group who is ever satisfied,
> ever willing to do a little bit extra to help out? Or is it
> all the same entitlement mentality that only lives to
> complain about what you are NOT getting?
>

They have no audio on the air during a high profile show in their most significant daypart, and somehow you are chastising me for not calling them to let them know? That's funny, even from a kool-aid drinking Forever apologist like you. Do you suppose nobody there knew? Nobody in sales, programming, on-air staff, interns, receptionists, traffic people - nobody had any clue and it was up to me to save the day?

It's indefensible.

You're nuts. <P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Spackler on 11/09/05 01:36 PM.</FONT></P>
 
> They have no audio on the air during a high profile show in
> their most significant daypart, and somehow you are
> chastising me for not calling them to let them know? That's
> funny, even from a kool-aid drinking Forever apologist like
> you. Do you suppose nobody there knew? Nobody in sales,
> programming, on-air staff, interns, receptionists, traffic
> people - nobody had any clue and it was up to me to save the
> day?
>
> It's indefensible.
>
> You're nuts.

Yep..that's me. I'm nuts. I'm just crazy for thinking that a listener/customer has no responsibility at all for keeping some kind of watch over their product.

You poor, immature, complaining little brat.
 
> > They have no audio on the air during a high profile show
> in
> > their most significant daypart, and somehow you are
> > chastising me for not calling them to let them know?
> That's
> > funny, even from a kool-aid drinking Forever apologist
> like
> > you. Do you suppose nobody there knew? Nobody in sales,
> > programming, on-air staff, interns, receptionists, traffic
>
> > people - nobody had any clue and it was up to me to save
> the
> > day?
> >
> > It's indefensible.
> >
> > You're nuts.
>
> Yep..that's me. I'm nuts. I'm just crazy for thinking that
> a listener/customer has no responsibility at all for keeping
> some kind of watch over their product.
>
> You poor, immature, complaining little brat.
>
Why, I'm terribly offended!
 
Are we responsible for every station?

Radioraven sez: "I'm just crazy for thinking that a listener/customer has no responsibility at all for keeping some kind of watch over their product."


Omigod! Now, we--the listeners--are suddenly responsible for the mistakes that radio stations make. I'm not sure I WANT all this responsibility.

Are we responsible just for Quick or do we have to keep tabs on all the Forever properties? How about AMN, Magnum and First Media?

Can we split it up? Or do we all need to stay up all night, every night?

Don't they pay people to do this?
 
> Yesterday and today, the B&T show on QWK was completely
> unlistenable. The audio was so weak and garbled, it may as
> well have been off completely.
>
> Who is minding there store over there? Nobody thought to
> pull the show and track some music, or maybe call in an
> actual jock to fill in until the problem is fixed?
>
> The fact that nobody cared enough to do anything about it
> speaks volumes.
>
Spackler,
This type of thing seems to happen all the time all over the place these days. Fact is, you hit the nail on the head...no one is minding the store. Once upon a time, these stations were all staffed well and if something happened, people were available, able and willing to react. The problem with all this consolidation is the staffs have been scaled back to the bare bones. Heck, jocks pull voicetracked shifts on 2 or 3 frequencies instead of each station being staffed. Many times the stations are flying totally jockless with no one in the building except for the cleaning crew perhaps.

Automation can save a few bucks and may even be necessary in some cases depending on a station's financial status, but one would think that a company that is billing and selling as much as Forever seems to be would not want to cut corners either. Froggy is a great example of a top notch product and it is Forever's flagship for sure. You better believe that these types of mistakes do not happen over there. The same care should be put into ALL of their stations.

And as for statements that is is the LISTENERS job to call and say the station sounds like crap...well that is just rediculous. We all know what listeners do when they don't like what they hear...they hit the tuner knob and move up or down the dial. It is OUR JOB as broadcasters to keep them locked in. They should not be expected to mind the store for us.

HItman
 
Re: Are we responsible for every station?

> Radioraven sez: "I'm just crazy for thinking that a
> listener/customer has no responsibility at all for keeping
> some kind of watch over their product."
>
>
> Omigod! Now, we--the listeners--are suddenly responsible for
> the mistakes that radio stations make. I'm not sure I WANT
> all this responsibility.
>
> Are we responsible just for Quick or do we have to keep tabs
> on all the Forever properties? How about AMN, Magnum and
> First Media?
>
> Can we split it up? Or do we all need to stay up all night,
> every night?
>
> Don't they pay people to do this?

LOL! I just like it when someone has another take on an opinion and can present it with a lighter tone.

Keystonejock, if you stay up all night, every night, I'll spring for the No-Doz!
 
Re: Are we responsible for every station?

I think you all are missing the point of radio-info.com... information. Maybe you should design a site and buy the domain radio-debate.com??
 
Re: Are we responsible for every station?

I agree with you! It's time these damn listeners get off their butts and start doing something to earn the free airwaves they've been sucking in for years! These folks should also go out with a phone book and start making some cold calls and be happy if they get 2% commissions!


> > Radioraven sez: "I'm just crazy for thinking that a
> > listener/customer has no responsibility at all for keeping
>
> > some kind of watch over their product."
> >
> >
> > Omigod! Now, we--the listeners--are suddenly responsible
> for
> > the mistakes that radio stations make. I'm not sure I WANT
>
> > all this responsibility.
> >
> > Are we responsible just for Quick or do we have to keep
> tabs
> > on all the Forever properties? How about AMN, Magnum and
> > First Media?
> >
> > Can we split it up? Or do we all need to stay up all
> night,
> > every night?
> >
> > Don't they pay people to do this?
>
> LOL! I just like it when someone has another take on an
> opinion and can present it with a lighter tone.
>
> Keystonejock, if you stay up all night, every night, I'll
> spring for the No-Doz!
>
 
Re: Are we responsible for every station?

> I think you all are missing the point of radio-info.com...
> information. Maybe you should design a site and buy the
> domain radio-debate.com??
>
I posted information...but some folks like to find reason to debate almost everything.

The whole point of the initial post was missed. They knew the problem was there. You can't not know. Too many people are involved for it to go unnoticed. The point was, they knew and their response was poor, or nonexistent. Somebody made a bad decision - two days in a row. Like I said, indefensible.

Somehow, a poster to this board assumed that nobody over there knew of the problem, and furthermore it is somehow our responsibility, mine and yours, to inform the station. And even if it was, I'd bet ten thousand billion dollars that they had plenty of calls. If the Revolution had 100 calls a day when they dropped Bob & Tom, QWK was getting phone calls. I'll bet they were getting calls at Clearview from people who still think QWK is over there.

You can't even debate soembody who is using pretzel logic. And drinking kool-aid.
 
Out of respect for the good people I know at Forever, I am not going to go into full detail but it was a phasing issue with a satellite and depending on what radio or stereo you were listing on it sounded ok or like garbage. Once it was realized what was wrong, it was fixed.

As for you Hitman...if you can write 3 paragraphs inspired by a station that usually sounds good having a technical issue that you translate into a lack of caring then I could probably write a series of novels on the bazillion things that hit the airwaves courtesy of G101.

> This type of thing seems to happen all the time all over the
> place these days. Fact is, you hit the nail on the
> head...no one is minding the store. Once upon a time, these
> stations were all staffed well and if something happened,
> people were available, able and willing to react. The
> problem with all this consolidation is the staffs have been
> scaled back to the bare bones. Heck, jocks pull
> voicetracked shifts on 2 or 3 frequencies instead of each
> station being staffed. Many times the stations are flying
> totally jockless with no one in the building except for the
> cleaning crew perhaps.

And a stand-alone like WGMR is different? How could a good friend of mine be being served a burger by your midday girl at a certian restaurant downtown at the SAME time she was on the air?? She is REALLY good, huh?

I suppose someone other than the cleaning crew is in the building when Romeo is on too? How about Open House Party? I HIGHLY doubt it.


> And as for statements that is is the LISTENERS job to call
> and say the station sounds like crap...well that is just
> rediculous.

Well to spell ridiculous as "rediculous" is, well, ridiculous.

> We all know what listeners do when they don't
> like what they hear...they hit the tuner knob and move up or
> down the dial. It is OUR JOB as broadcasters to keep them
> locked in. They should not be expected to mind the store
> for us.
>
> HItman
>


It must be nice to be perfect like you Hitman...you are so nice to point out problems with others...how can we all be more like you and be better broadcasters like you?? PLEASE tell!!
 
WOW. SOMEONE SILENCED THE HITMAN. WAY TO GO!


Out of respect for the good people I know at Forever, I am
> not going to go into full detail but it was a phasing issue
> with a satellite and depending on what radio or stereo you
> were listing on it sounded ok or like garbage. Once it was
> realized what was wrong, it was fixed.
>
> As for you Hitman...if you can write 3 paragraphs inspired
> by a station that usually sounds good having a technical
> issue that you translate into a lack of caring then I could
> probably write a series of novels on the bazillion things
> that hit the airwaves courtesy of G101.
>
> > This type of thing seems to happen all the time all over
> the
> > place these days. Fact is, you hit the nail on the
> > head...no one is minding the store. Once upon a time,
> these
> > stations were all staffed well and if something happened,
> > people were available, able and willing to react. The
> > problem with all this consolidation is the staffs have
> been
> > scaled back to the bare bones. Heck, jocks pull
> > voicetracked shifts on 2 or 3 frequencies instead of each
> > station being staffed. Many times the stations are flying
>
> > totally jockless with no one in the building except for
> the
> > cleaning crew perhaps.
>
> And a stand-alone like WGMR is different? How could a good
> friend of mine be being served a burger by your midday girl
> at a certian restaurant downtown at the SAME time she was on
> the air?? She is REALLY good, huh?
>
> I suppose someone other than the cleaning crew is in the
> building when Romeo is on too? How about Open House Party?
> I HIGHLY doubt it.
>
>
> > And as for statements that is is the LISTENERS job to call
>
> > and say the station sounds like crap...well that is just
> > rediculous.
>
> Well to spell ridiculous as "rediculous" is, well,
> ridiculous.
>
> > We all know what listeners do when they don't
> > like what they hear...they hit the tuner knob and move up
> or
> > down the dial. It is OUR JOB as broadcasters to keep them
>
> > locked in. They should not be expected to mind the store
> > for us.
> >
> > HItman
> >
>
>
> It must be nice to be perfect like you Hitman...you are so
> nice to point out problems with others...how can we all be
> more like you and be better broadcasters like you?? PLEASE
> tell!!
>
 
If that's true, I might actually start reading this board again.

> WOW. SOMEONE SILENCED THE HITMAN. WAY TO GO!
>
>
> Out of respect for the good people I know at Forever, I am
> > not going to go into full detail but it was a phasing
> issue
> > with a satellite and depending on what radio or stereo you
>
> > were listing on it sounded ok or like garbage. Once it
> was
> > realized what was wrong, it was fixed.
> >
> > As for you Hitman...if you can write 3 paragraphs inspired
>
> > by a station that usually sounds good having a technical
> > issue that you translate into a lack of caring then I
> could
> > probably write a series of novels on the bazillion things
> > that hit the airwaves courtesy of G101.
> >
> > > This type of thing seems to happen all the time all over
>
> > the
> > > place these days. Fact is, you hit the nail on the
> > > head...no one is minding the store. Once upon a time,
> > these
> > > stations were all staffed well and if something
> happened,
> > > people were available, able and willing to react. The
> > > problem with all this consolidation is the staffs have
> > been
> > > scaled back to the bare bones. Heck, jocks pull
> > > voicetracked shifts on 2 or 3 frequencies instead of
> each
> > > station being staffed. Many times the stations are
> flying
> >
> > > totally jockless with no one in the building except for
> > the
> > > cleaning crew perhaps.
> >
> > And a stand-alone like WGMR is different? How could a
> good
> > friend of mine be being served a burger by your midday
> girl
> > at a certian restaurant downtown at the SAME time she was
> on
> > the air?? She is REALLY good, huh?
> >
> > I suppose someone other than the cleaning crew is in the
> > building when Romeo is on too? How about Open House
> Party?
> > I HIGHLY doubt it.
> >
> >
> > > And as for statements that is is the LISTENERS job to
> call
> >
> > > and say the station sounds like crap...well that is just
>
> > > rediculous.
> >
> > Well to spell ridiculous as "rediculous" is, well,
> > ridiculous.
> >
> > > We all know what listeners do when they don't
> > > like what they hear...they hit the tuner knob and move
> up
> > or
> > > down the dial. It is OUR JOB as broadcasters to keep
> them
> >
> > > locked in. They should not be expected to mind the
> store
> > > for us.
> > >
> > > HItman
> > >
> >
> >
> > It must be nice to be perfect like you Hitman...you are so
>
> > nice to point out problems with others...how can we all be
>
> > more like you and be better broadcasters like you??
> PLEASE
> > tell!!
> >
>
 
> WOW. SOMEONE SILENCED THE HITMAN. WAY TO GO!

YEAH.......MAYBE HE ACTUALLY GOT A LIFE.....DOUBT IT BUT ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE
>
>
> Out of respect for the good people I know at Forever, I am
> > not going to go into full detail but it was a phasing
> issue
> > with a satellite and depending on what radio or stereo you
>
> > were listing on it sounded ok or like garbage. Once it
> was
> > realized what was wrong, it was fixed.
> >
> > As for you Hitman...if you can write 3 paragraphs inspired
>
> > by a station that usually sounds good having a technical
> > issue that you translate into a lack of caring then I
> could
> > probably write a series of novels on the bazillion things
> > that hit the airwaves courtesy of G101.
> >
> > > This type of thing seems to happen all the time all over
>
> > the
> > > place these days. Fact is, you hit the nail on the
> > > head...no one is minding the store. Once upon a time,
> > these
> > > stations were all staffed well and if something
> happened,
> > > people were available, able and willing to react. The
> > > problem with all this consolidation is the staffs have
> > been
> > > scaled back to the bare bones. Heck, jocks pull
> > > voicetracked shifts on 2 or 3 frequencies instead of
> each
> > > station being staffed. Many times the stations are
> flying
> >
> > > totally jockless with no one in the building except for
> > the
> > > cleaning crew perhaps.
> >
> > And a stand-alone like WGMR is different? How could a
> good
> > friend of mine be being served a burger by your midday
> girl
> > at a certian restaurant downtown at the SAME time she was
> on
> > the air?? She is REALLY good, huh?
> >
> > I suppose someone other than the cleaning crew is in the
> > building when Romeo is on too? How about Open House
> Party?
> > I HIGHLY doubt it.
> >
> >
> > > And as for statements that is is the LISTENERS job to
> call
> >
> > > and say the station sounds like crap...well that is just
>
> > > rediculous.
> >
> > Well to spell ridiculous as "rediculous" is, well,
> > ridiculous.
> >
> > > We all know what listeners do when they don't
> > > like what they hear...they hit the tuner knob and move
> up
> > or
> > > down the dial. It is OUR JOB as broadcasters to keep
> them
> >
> > > locked in. They should not be expected to mind the
> store
> > > for us.
> > >
> > > HItman
> > >
> >
> >
> > It must be nice to be perfect like you Hitman...you are so
>
> > nice to point out problems with others...how can we all be
>
> > more like you and be better broadcasters like you??
> PLEASE
> > tell!!
> >
>
 
>
> And a stand-alone like WGMR is different? How could a good
> friend of mine be being served a burger by your midday girl
> at a certian restaurant downtown at the SAME time she was on
> the air?? She is REALLY good, huh?
>
> I suppose someone other than the cleaning crew is in the
> building when Romeo is on too? How about Open House Party?
> I HIGHLY doubt it.
>
To clarify...never said G101 is all live all the time. Virtually everyone in this area has the technical ability to be voicetracked at some time. 3-WZ uses voicetracking, Hot 103 does, Lite does as does Froggy on occasion. Half the AM's around do not even have staff in them ever! Its a fact of radio today. But, even when G101 is voicetracked, we have an ear cocked to the dial. I am not certain that is always so everywhere.

My point is, when I was at 103 years ago, we were nearly killed for leaving the studio to go to the bathroom. I toured the place one day with Don Bedell and there was not ONE JOCK in the studio at the time. One was in Prod, one was making music calls but no one was in the room or even close by even though the building was packed with people. That is tough to excuse by any means. Don himself even said "yeah things must have changed a LOT from when you did this...we don't even have to be in there anymore....the thing runs on autopilot".

I will also point out ownership encourages us to be LIVE whenever possible (and we CAN voicetrack if we cannot).

Why is it that some of us simply cannot make any sort of comment without an attack? You complain if we DON'T Talk radio...then you complain if we do! Seems some just like to complain. Well, I have never been one not to share an opinion if I had one...but I do try to talk objectively. If you do not see it that way...thats fine by me...at least I am not drinking up all the Kool-Aid. We can reserve that for others.
 
> To clarify...never said G101 is all live all the time.
> Virtually everyone in this area has the technical ability to
> be voicetracked at some time. 3-WZ uses voicetracking, Hot
> 103 does, Lite does as does Froggy on occasion. Half the
> AM's around do not even have staff in them ever! Its a fact
> of radio today. But, even when G101 is voicetracked, we
> have an ear cocked to the dial. I am not certain that is
> always so everywhere.


Once again, "we do the same as everyone else but they suck when they do it"



>
> My point is, when I was at 103 years ago, we were nearly
> killed for leaving the studio to go to the bathroom.

Ironic, then they ASKED you to leave.

> I
> toured the place one day with Don Bedell and there was not
> ONE JOCK in the studio at the time. One was in Prod, one
> was making music calls but no one was in the room or even
> close by even though the building was packed with people.
> That is tough to excuse by any means.

AND YOUR MIDDAY GIRL IS SERVING BURGERS IN DOWNTOWN STATE COLLEGE...WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?????? It's not ok to use tracking and do other things for the station in the building but it is ok to track and ask what kind of dressing one wants with their side salad?? (that is not a slam on Melissa, she actually sounds pretty good)


> Don himself even said
> "yeah things must have changed a LOT from when you did
> this...we don't even have to be in there anymore....the
> thing runs on autopilot".

Just like GMR.

>
> I will also point out ownership encourages us to be LIVE
> whenever possible (and we CAN voicetrack if we cannot).
>
> Why is it that some of us simply cannot make any sort of
> comment without an attack? You complain if we DON'T Talk
> radio...then you complain if we do! Seems some just like to
> complain. Well, I have never been one not to share an
> opinion if I had one...but I do try to talk objectively.

That is COMEDY!!! Stop...oh my god...I think I am gonna pee myself...whoah...I think I crying I am laughing so hard...objectively...oh...seriously, stop it...it hurts too laugh....whoooo...ok....I think I have stopped laughing. Get me tissue, please.


> If
> you do not see it that way...thats fine by me...at least I
> am not drinking up all the Kool-Aid.

I can assume you mean that about Forever, correct? Real OBJECTIVE comment.

> We can reserve that
> for others.
>

"da-da-da-dada-dada-watch out for the Hitman-da-da-da-dada-dada" Do you use that for a bed when you are on the air?? PLEASE tell me yes!! That would take it from Kraft Slices to a giant block of Colby-Jack.
 
> > To clarify...never said G101 is all live all the time.
> > Virtually everyone in this area has the technical ability
> to
> > be voicetracked at some time. 3-WZ uses voicetracking,
> Hot
> > 103 does, Lite does as does Froggy on occasion. Half the
> > AM's around do not even have staff in them ever! Its a
> fact
> > of radio today. But, even when G101 is voicetracked, we
> > have an ear cocked to the dial. I am not certain that is
> > always so everywhere.
>
>
> Once again, "we do the same as everyone else but they suck
> when they do it"

Um...no....If a station's staff LISTENS and REACTS when the station goes off air, or 2 commercials are playing at the same time or its out of phase or whatever...thats fine. Ignore whats on the air and you suck then! That was my point. I don't think ANY of us in this business loves voicetracking, but it is a reality for many different reasons. Some do it because of economics, some do it to have better control over the content and some do it to just be plain cheap...but it is what it is. Its as much a part of the business as a microphone is these days.

>
>
> >
> > My point is, when I was at 103 years ago, we were nearly
> > killed for leaving the studio to go to the bathroom.
>
> Ironic, then they ASKED you to leave.
>
Won't go there...unless you worked for the company at the time and were one of the management figures who made the decision, you do not have the details and its really none of your concern. I have not attacked any of YOU personally. I may make comments on a company, but nothing of anything I have said has ever been aimed at any of you personally. I'd kindly request the same in return.

We all put our pants on one leg at a time ya know!

Hitman
 
Re: Are we responsible for every station?

This is the problem with automating the show. When we had Bob And Tom at GMR we had a problem getting the satelitte to resync some Monday mornings. Once we were locked on we had no problem keeping it. The show was automated every day, but there was someone in the building at 6am to babysit in case there was a problem. Obviously Forever was aware of the problem, and it was corrected, if they are using a comstream depending on how big the dish is would effect the audio for the show. Low or weak signal makes the show sound horrable. I agree that listners should call if there is a problem as they did when we were off with it or when we took it off completly. It should also be the PD's resposbality to make sure the programming on the air is right and listenable. Though you can't blame forever as a whole for the problem. It is the PD at QWK who should be balmed if it took 2 days to recognize there was a probelm, if it took 2 days to fix the problem (WHICH IT VERY WELL COULD HAVE) then there is no one to blame. Right? So instead of taking jabs at Forever, lets all get our facts straight. Why can't anyone on this board just be adult enought to walk away. We all have to get into squabbles about BS.
 
Re: Are we responsible for every station?

Why can't anyone on this
> board just be adult enought to walk away. We all have to get
> into squabbles about BS.
>

Because I'm right all the time and everybody else is wrong. nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah.
 
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