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I thought I'd check out the Russ Martin show today.
I found myself stuck in traffic, so what the hey...
I heard commercials. Then more. Then more. Never did hear Russ or the beloved JD. Must have been ten in a row. Is this typical? Do the people who bought those spots know that's what's going on?
 
That's why I never latched back on to Howard. Take 3 hours of actual content and pad it into a 6-hour show. I thought The Eagle was bad about doing that, but strange that a typical Stern show lasted until 10:30 there, and until nearly noon on KYNG/KLLI. Of course, the unusual amount of cross-promoting the station's own shows got old very quickly. How many of those spots you heard today fell into that category?

That's almost as bad as chopping a 25-minute 1970s sitcom down to 16 minutes to pad it with today's "excusable" commercial load. Oh, I guess I'm thinking about TV Land, owned coincidentally by CBS/Viacom.
 
"greed " for lack of a better word is good"..Geicko Of course the commercial load was probably more informative and entertaining than RMS..thats not very much.
 
I haven't listened in quite awhile. But when I did it seemed that when every book, or even trend came out he'd go thru all the numbers on the air. Touting himself as God's gift to afternoon drive in Market 5.

I've seen the numbers in the last 12 months. There's no way he's still talking about them on the air these days right???
 
Yeah, that show is a mere shell of what it used to be. Too many spots and no content. Jagger is the only thing worth listening to on 105.3. Russ has lost his edge and I am tired of hearing about his wealth, his large house, his cars... Trey's obvious fake rants on Russ' voicemail, chaw talk, flatulent noises every day when Dan says Vladimir Putin. Not to mention all of times they are able to "trick" Gavin (the guy who ruined KRLD). zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ::)
 
looks like they tried to sell as much as they could before the Spring Book came out.
 
Talktalk said:
looks like they tried to sell as much as they could before the Spring Book came out.

Shoot if that's the case, they should have just gone WTW Commercials during the Spring. ;)

R
 
Hasn't Russ been bragging that he just got a huge new contract? How does that happen if the show is getting such poor ratiings?

Personally, I got bored with his constant ego-stroking and the reuse of bits years ago. Recent listenings haven't gone beyond about five minutes - it's now quite unfunny, repetitive, and dull.
 
Simple ,You get a PD /Gm younger than him,intimadate them,humiliate them,and become the "big man" Put Russ in a station that gives a damn,he will be lucky to make minimum wage.
 
MikeShannon914 said:
That's why I never latched back on to Howard. Take 3 hours of actual content and pad it into a 6-hour show. I thought The Eagle was bad about doing that, but strange that a typical Stern show lasted until 10:30 there, and until nearly noon on KYNG/KLLI. Of course, the unusual amount of cross-promoting the station's own shows got old very quickly. How many of those spots you heard today fell into that category?

That's almost as bad as chopping a 25-minute 1970s sitcom down to 16 minutes to pad it with today's "excusable" commercial load. Oh, I guess I'm thinking about TV Land, owned coincidentally by CBS/Viacom.

I ran the board and did traffic when Stern returned. The problem was not the # of commercials. We ran 19 min./hr just like NY. The problem was the promos and the traffic. You take 6 2min traffic breaks and at least 10 min in promos and that is an extra 22 minutes of time added onto Stern. Not a bad thing for KLLI when you took his ratings vs PnK. All a management decision. The more time with Stern, the better. Plus the traffic sponsorships just padded the bottom line.
 
I know I should be the last one to offer sympathy when it comes to the subject of the RMS...but really, it must be a chore to be topical and funny and engaging when you have to come up with material constantly to fill 20 hours of chatter a week. My little foray into doing a radio show last year was pretty challenging, and that was to just fill 2 hours, once a week, and having music to use for a crutch when needed. You can do all the show prep you want, but that doesn't guarantee a good show. There's hardly a radio show host today who I can stand to listen to for any amount of time, but I've developed a new respect for what they do. There's just not enough stories in the Naked City that are worthy of airtime, and I know now why those hosts jump at those hot-button issues when they come up, and milk them to death for hours, days and weeks. And you have to have some level of perception to know what people will find interesting, and what they'll tune away from. It's almost an art form, and that's why not just anyone can do it and be successful with it. I spent 4 years listening to Stern every morning on The Eagle, and I'd consider that 90s era to be Stern's best, and I also consider Stern to be the master of the art. But when I tuned him in on KLLI here and there in the 2000s, sheesh, it was a rehash of old stuff every day. Reminisces of him running for governor...stripper interviews...on-air fights with the same celebrities (most of whom were yesterday's news now, 10 yrs later)...same old arguments with Chiasano and Stern's crew...etc etc etc. There's something to be said for stepping down while you're on top, instead of milking things to the bitter end. Some folks can reinvent themselves and enjoy wave after wave of popularity over a long period of time, but others can't let go of what they once were. Listeners age, their tastes change, the new breed of listeners coming up have way too many choices, and it becomes a "tough crowd" to work and keep. For me, I know I wouldn't want my income and success attached to something with that many variables. And there's no real prospect for things to get better or to return to how they used to be.

And one last little point...I'm seeing more and more people tuning in talk radio based on the subject being discussed, and not out of a daily loyalty to a certain host. It's much akin to channel surfers who flip around to find their favorite song and have no true "favorite station." Again, that makes it hard on a host to find something new and intriguing and compelling that will keep the listeners tuning in daily.
 
Yes and that's the issue with Russ' show the last 2 years or so..It's a rehash of the same damn thing. Band talk, when do we need to break, here's the legal, Let's blow some stuff up for no reason, My house is MY house...ect.

Can't tell exactly, but I think it jumped the shark when the Austin syndication abortion started (and subsequently ended).
 
I didn't start this thread to bash Russ. Like Mike, I admire what he has accomplished. Shark jumping or no, he has achieved a level of success that takes years to build. The loyalty his listeners feel inspires them to take the time to fill out rating diaries. How many other personalities in this town have that kind of following? I just wish I could have heard him when I spent TEN FRIGGING MINUTES tuned in to his show the other day.
 
MikeShannon914 said:
I know I should be the last one to offer sympathy when it comes to the subject of the RMS...but really, it must be a chore to be topical and funny and engaging when you have to come up with material constantly to fill 20 hours of chatter a week. My little foray into doing a radio show last year was pretty challenging, and that was to just fill 2 hours, once a week, and having music to use for a crutch when needed. You can do all the show prep you want, but that doesn't guarantee a good show. There's hardly a radio show host today who I can stand to listen to for any amount of time, but I've developed a new respect for what they do. There's just not enough stories in the Naked City that are worthy of airtime, and I know now why those hosts jump at those hot-button issues when they come up, and milk them to death for hours, days and weeks. And you have to have some level of perception to know what people will find interesting, and what they'll tune away from. It's almost an art form, and that's why not just anyone can do it and be successful with it. I spent 4 years listening to Stern every morning on The Eagle, and I'd consider that 90s era to be Stern's best, and I also consider Stern to be the master of the art. But when I tuned him in on KLLI here and there in the 2000s, sheesh, it was a rehash of old stuff every day. Reminisces of him running for governor...stripper interviews...on-air fights with the same celebrities (most of whom were yesterday's news now, 10 yrs later)...same old arguments with Chiasano and Stern's crew...etc etc etc. There's something to be said for stepping down while you're on top, instead of milking things to the bitter end. Some folks can reinvent themselves and enjoy wave after wave of popularity over a long period of time, but others can't let go of what they once were. Listeners age, their tastes change, the new breed of listeners coming up have way too many choices, and it becomes a "tough crowd" to work and keep. For me, I know I wouldn't want my income and success attached to something with that many variables. And there's no real prospect for things to get better or to return to how they used to be.

And one last little point...I'm seeing more and more people tuning in talk radio based on the subject being discussed, and not out of a daily loyalty to a certain host. It's much akin to channel surfers who flip around to find their favorite song and have no true "favorite station." Again, that makes it hard on a host to find something new and intriguing and compelling that will keep the listeners tuning in daily.


You nailed it! I believe that most that post on this site bashing the RMS or other talk shows have never worked in talk radio much less the industry period. Yeah Russ get boring somedays, just dont tell him. KLLI runs +/- 18 - 22 units per hour. Thats mainly spots and no promos. Every now and then they run promos for station or show events during Russ' show. The rest of the shows on the station is a different story. You want something to B!tch about listen to the overnight broadcast of the RMS and hear the newbie board ops slaughter the show by their rookie skills. Goes to show they will let anybody run a board overnight there.
 
Hence why I quit listening awhile back, why dont get Big Richard Hunter and the WAC to fill either the P&K or RMS slot on a more perm. basis, he does a decent job during those holiday breaks for Jagger and P&K.
 
Why don't KLLI change to alternative? I hate listening to Lex & Terry in the morning, I think we another alternative station here to compete with KDGE.
 
Um, how's KDGE doing in those books lately?

Honestly, FM Talk would work in this town if someone knew how to do it right. It's voyeuristic and human natures creates us to be nosy. Case in point, those bastards going NB on 30 who bottleneck to see a friggin' tow truck with its shiny lights on in the SB lanes. But I digress.

We are loyal listeners... see Chapman, Jay and even Kidd. But KLLI gives reloading a bunch of has-beens and a few never-will-bes. Russ is overrated. Howard is just over. Man, just put a couple of names on there with a GREAT board op and producer and let it rip. They would hit a nice CUME within two books. Guaranteed.
 
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