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Radio ads targeting aging boomers

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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20060330.RRADIO30/TPStory/Business

Radio ads targeting aging boomers: report
GRANT ROBERTSON

MEDIA REPORTER

Radio advertisers are shifting their attention away from younger listeners to the growing population of aging baby boomers, two of Canada's biggest broadcasters said yesterday.

Advertising figures released by Canadian Broadcast Sales (CBS), a company owned by Corus Entertainment Inc. and Rogers Communications Inc., suggests advertisers are increasingly using the radio dial to reach older audiences.

The percentage of ad revenue from commercials directed at the 25-to-54 demographic increased by more than 15 per cent to 44.4 per cent of total ad spending. At the same time, the amount of ad dollars aimed at younger demographics declined, CBS said.

The trend "likely reflects some recognition that baby boomers are continuing to age," Patrick Grierson, president of CBS, said in a statement. However, advertisers are still behind the curve in targeting older baby boomers, he added.

"The ad dollars are following this group, but are still ignoring the fact that leading-edge boomers have already turned 60," he said.

The numbers, which represent roughly 60 per cent of Canadian radio stations, come less than two weeks after the industry raised concerns with Ottawa about losing younger listeners.

In a submission to a federal government review of the radio sector, the Canadian Association of Broadcasters said falling listenership among teenagers has become a concern for the industry as younger listeners adopt technology such as digital music players.

"It is generally agreed that teens have abandoned conventional radio in favour of other audio platforms including peer-to-peer file sharing, music downloading and iPods," the CAB said.

Despite the focus on older listeners though, CBS said ad spending aimed specifically at men ages 18 to 34 rose because of greater competition among beer companies.

Meanwhile, commercials related to the federal election pushed up overall ad revenue by more than 10 per cent to an estimated $29-million.
 
Thanks for the post. I was starting to think I was the only one here who recognized this! Hopefully, advertisers will realize that there is money to be made by targeting the early boomer market. 55+ can be a significant demo. Yes, it will take creativity and hard work, but as they say, no risk--no reward!
 
Just as an added note...I'm watching the TODAY show, and they just ran a commercial set that included spots for:

1. Fidelity Investments, "Need a little Flower Power?" (w/Iron Butterfly)
2. Boniva, an osteoperosis med. Spot features a group of 45+ women.
3. Las Vegas tourism. Spot features 20-30 year olds, but anyone who has been there can tell you the average Vegas tourist is way higher than that!

Without knowing the TODAY show's actual demos, I would guess that they're targeting a 35+ audience. Radio advertisers should follow their lead.
 
You'll notice these kinds of ads on most network news programming. Very few people under the age of 40 watch the national news shows anymore. In fact, here in Boston, the local newscast on the Fox affiliate gets better overall ratings (and younger demos) than Today or Good Morning America. I'm sure the networks are not getting top dollar for these spots. If older boomers are the only ones watching, it limits the type of business you can attract, and how much you can charge per spot. There has been talk in TV circles about overhauling the Today show since younger viewers are leaving in droves.

Mike Thomas


> Just as an added note...I'm watching the TODAY show, and
> they just ran a commercial set that included spots for:
>
> 1. Fidelity Investments, "Need a little Flower Power?"
> (w/Iron Butterfly)
> 2. Boniva, an osteoperosis med. Spot features a group of 45+
> women.
> 3. Las Vegas tourism. Spot features 20-30 year olds, but
> anyone who has been there can tell you the average Vegas
> tourist is way higher than that!
>
> Without knowing the TODAY show's actual demos, I would guess
> that they're targeting a 35+ audience. Radio advertisers
> should follow their lead.
>
 
> I'm sure the networks are not getting top dollar
> for these spots.

Not getting top dollar? It's the number one network morning show!
 
Re: All it says is that 25-54 is king.

> Thanks for the post. I was starting to think I was the only
> one here who recognized this! Hopefully, advertisers will
> realize that there is money to be made by targeting the
> early boomer market. 55+ can be a significant demo. Yes,
> it will take creativity and hard work, but as they say, no
> risk--no reward!
>

The Canadian report says nothing more than we already know int he US... there is no advertising revenue available for over 55 listeners.
 
>
> Without knowing the TODAY show's actual demos, I would guess
> that they're targeting a 35+ audience. Radio advertisers
> should follow their lead.

They have followed this "lead" for decades. 25-54 and 18-49 account for about 95% or better of agency placements. 35-54 or 45-54 are simply parts of that demo.

There is, on the other hand, no 55+ money.
 
Radio ads

Still, after all the back & forth-- they're not targeting 55+.

> You'll notice these kinds of ads on most network news
> programming. Very few people under the age of 40 watch the
> national news shows anymore. In fact, here in Boston, the
> local newscast on the Fox affiliate gets better overall
> ratings (and younger demos) than Today or Good Morning
> America. I'm sure the networks are not getting top dollar
> for these spots. If older boomers are the only ones
> watching, it limits the type of business you can attract,
> and how much you can charge per spot. There has been talk
> in TV circles about overhauling the Today show since younger
> viewers are leaving in droves.
>
> Mike Thomas
>
>
> > Just as an added note...I'm watching the TODAY show, and
> > they just ran a commercial set that included spots for:
> >
> > 1. Fidelity Investments, "Need a little Flower Power?"
> > (w/Iron Butterfly)
> > 2. Boniva, an osteoperosis med. Spot features a group of
> 45+
> > women.
> > 3. Las Vegas tourism. Spot features 20-30 year olds, but
> > anyone who has been there can tell you the average Vegas
> > tourist is way higher than that!
> >
> > Without knowing the TODAY show's actual demos, I would
> guess
> > that they're targeting a 35+ audience. Radio advertisers
> > should follow their lead.
> >
>
 
I guess you only read the parts that fit into your point of view

I guess you glossed over the statement by Patrick Grierson, president of Canadian Broadcast Sales in which he said advertisers are still behind the curve:

> "The ad dollars are following this group, but are still ignoring the fact that
> leading-edge boomers have already turned 60," he said.<P ID="signature">______________


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> > I'm sure the networks are not getting top dollar
> > for these spots.
>
> Not getting top dollar? It's the number one network morning
> show!

"Top dollar" is based both on ratings and on demographics.

Being the #1 network morning show when all three get their ratings primarily in 35-54 doesn't command "top dollar". Being the #1 rated prime-time show in 18-34 does.<P ID="signature">______________


</P>
 
Re: All it says is that 25-54 is king.

> [The Canadian report says nothing more than we already know
> in the US... there is no advertising revenue available for
> over 55 listeners.]


If I owned a Ford dealership and my salesmen told me that sales were low because "nobody wants to buy Fords", I'd show those salesmen the door real quick! Radio's ad agencies have milked that 55+ excuse for far too long. For the sake of their own survival, maybe it's time for terrestrial radio to find some new ad agencies.
 
Re: All it says is that 25-54 is king.

It's the ad agencies clients, not the agenciers themselves, who don't want 55+ numbers. There is not enough salesmanship in the world to change the demographic the client is looking for...and the ad agency rep who tells the client "I know the specs were 25-34 but I bought this 55+ station anyway..gets FIRED".

This is even assuming that if there were 55+ dollars, that every single boomer would listen exclusively to oldies.

Aside from that, if no one was buying Fords, they'd change the Fords. In radio, if no one is buying oldies, they change the format.


<P ID="signature">______________
"Your right to know supersedes your right to exist"..Gary Burbank</P>
 
Re: Horrible misconception of ad agency functions.

> If I owned a Ford dealership and my salesmen told me that
> sales were low because "nobody wants to buy Fords", I'd show
> those salesmen the door real quick! Radio's ad agencies
> have milked that 55+ excuse for far too long.

The media does not own ad agencies. Radio does not own ad agencies. there is no such thing as a "Radio Ad Agency."

Advertising agencies act as agents for advertisers. They create and place ads based on the advertiser's specifications. "Place" means to select media, allocate budgets by edium, and by ads on indivisual stations, cable nets, outdoor companies, magazines, etc.

An agency calls a radio station or its national rep and negotiates a rate based on the efficiency in delivery of the demos the client specified.

The agency can not change the demos of the campaign. Period.

> For the sake
> of their own survival, maybe it's time for terrestrial radio
> to find some new ad agencies.

Huh? You really have no idea what an ad agency is, right?

Cpompany A invents a new widget. It is a widget that is designed for a specific age and lifestyle group. The colors match the hip colors in that age group. The size is perfect for the needs of the group, and it has new features that no other widget has which were determined by researching members of the age and lifestyle group that the manufacturer had in mind, because they knew there was a big hole in the widget market in that age group.

The manufacturer selects an ad agency or calls the one it already uses. It says, "we have a new widget, targeted at urban dwelling 30 to 49 year olds. It is compact, and folds up wnen not in use. It comes in colors this group likes, and the packaging is designed to appeal to the same group. Now, create an ad campaign and media plan."

The agency does some focus groups in the age group. They come up with several creative concepts for ads for print, TV and radio aimed at this age group and lifesytle. The client likes one, and approves it. The agency suggests 70% TV and cable, 20% newspapers and city magzzines int he top 50 markets, and 10% radio in the budget. The client approves.

The agency bills the client for the creative. It will also get a 15% commission on the media placements, from the media.

The agency calls the station reps in the markets selected. They ask for rates against 30-49 adults. Staitons submit rates. the ones that are the most efficient get bought. The rest don't.

The manufacturer distributes the new widgets to stores in time for the campaign to hit. They tell stores to stock up, since they will be unleashing a big ad campaign. The ads start running.

That is what an ad agency does. It has nothing to do with a radio station except for buying advertisements. Radio stations have absolutely NO say in what an ad agency does for its clients. the clients do.
 
Re: Horrible misconception of ad agency functions.

[Radio stations have absolutely NO say in what an ad agency does for its clients. the clients do.]


And with attrition shrinking the 25-54 audience, what the clients want (or think they want)is becoming more and more difficult for radio to deliver. It's sad that radio has very little ability to control its own future. That's not the kind of business I would want to invest in.
 
Re: Horrible misconception of ad agency functions.

> [Radio stations have absolutely NO say in what an ad agency
> does for its clients. the clients do.]
>
>
> And with attrition shrinking the 25-54 audience, what the
> clients want (or think they want)is becoming more and more
> difficult for radio to deliver. It's sad that radio has
> very little ability to control its own future. That's not
> the kind of business I would want to invest in.

There is essentially no 25-54 cume shrinkage, and only about 2% AQH shrinkage in this demo since the 70's. The bigger shrinkage is in AQH in teens and old farts... which radio does not program to.

Seriously, you should read a bit on media and marketing and advertising. You are almost totally wrong on ever supposition you have on all of them. Then, your comments might be accepted with less laughter and derision.
>
 
Re: All it says is that 25-54 is king.

> It's the ad agencies clients, not the agenciers themselves,
> who don't want 55+ numbers. There is not enough salesmanship
> in the world to change the demographic the client is looking
> for...and the ad agency rep who tells the client "I know the
> specs were 25-34 but I bought this 55+ station anyway..gets
> FIRED".
>
> This is even assuming that if there were 55+ dollars, that
> every single boomer would listen exclusively to oldies.
>
> Aside from that, if no one was buying Fords, they'd change
> the Fords. In radio, if no one is buying oldies, they change
> the format.
>>>>>
Maybe it will leave more spots open for GM, a division of Toyota:)).
 
It would appear

> Aside from that, if no one was buying Fords, they'd change
> the Fords.

Indeed Ford did just that.

They changed the cars to make them uncomfortable, degraded the
handling, and jacked up the price.

They were amazed that the big changes didn't produce positive
results.

I know because, well over 55, I'm about to buy two new cars as I
move to a new home in a new city. Along the way I have rented
several Ford models by way of "auditioning" them, resulting in
the commentary above. What brand will I buy? Dunno....but the
decision won't be influenced by advertising on radio 'cause I'm
not listening much anymore.<P ID="signature">______________
When you're done impeaching the prez, keep on going; recall every member of congress and lock 'em up! Let's try NO govt. for a while.</P>
 
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