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Radio Automation

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In our days a lot of companies sell Radio Automation but wich is the no1?
I remember in 1999 we use Raduga hear in Greece and some other people use Megamix.

In 2002 if i remeber well a new radio automation come with a lot of feauture and ofcurse is very simply to use the name is Jazler.
All the radio station in Greece use Jazler until now and i thing if you compine with powergold you will make very profecional music programme for your station.

The last days i searh a lot of to see what radio automation they us radios in France and Holand.
I see that they use one Radio Automation wich is looks like as Adobe Audition(Cool edit). Does anyone knows wha is the name of the softwares :)
If you want i can give you a link to see the studio live and help to found the name of Radio Automation

Thanks and sorry for my English
 
Adobe Audition is used for production and editing. Making commercials, etc. The picture you posted is an audio editor called Voxpro http://www.audionlabs.com/index.html it is also used for audio editing.

Radio Automation is a program that plays a playlist.
The big ones in the USA are:
NexGen - http://www.rcsworks.com/en/products/nexgen/default.aspx
WideOrbit - http://www.wideorbit.com/index.php/products/wo-automation-for-radio
Op X - http://www.bsiusa.com/OpX/
There are lots more Automation programs for playing playlists.

If you want an audio editing program, Adobe Audition is the main favorite.
But also Sound Forge or Pro Tools are popular too.
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/soundforgesoftware
http://www.avid.com/us/products/family/pro-tools
 
The software on the screen far right is, like I mentioned, Dalet (5.1)
The software on the other monitor is indeed voxpro
 
Nope, there isn't. It's a pretty complex system which will set you back al least € 15.000. And even than it's only functional in the basics and most of the time you need extra software for import and scheduling. It looks cool and does it's job well, but there are lots and lots of alternatives.
 
richard.vanderveen i see in the oficial page of programme, for making the music programme you must use powergold.
But when you say 15000 i change my mind and i thing jazler is very good programme ;)
 
Dalet is the Linux of radio playout apps - you'll see DJs using it easily, the GUI is pretty clean (and hasn't changed much in 10yrs) but most of the good stuff is hidden away inside the config file and, as Richard says, extra utilities are required for the most simple of tasks. That said, when set-up well it's a good system, handles live-assist + auto nicely and additional players can be opened for jingles, advert splits and so on. The segue editor/tracker is probably the best I've ever seen but does have a couple of slight issues.

EncoDAD would give you a much cheaper alternative if that's the sort of GUI you like. Plus, there's a free program called FreePlayer which is still in it's early stages - well worth a look. There'a a UK program called Myriad by PSquared which is used my many of the smaller stations here - it operates on the traditional "cartwall" system and does automation/live-assist, backtiming and voicetracking very well.
 
Continuing the subject of budget software, I've seen several of the local LPFM and small commercial AM stations around here running a product out of New Zealand called StationPlaylist (http://www.stationplaylist.com). Price ranges from about $200 to just under $500 depending on the desired features. Includes a pretty good music scheduler and a very stable automation playout engine. Several stations here run for months without serious glitches. It can handle (& crossfade) mp2, mp3, wav and many other formats, except WMA. It can handle full automation, voice tracking, and live assist. The interface isn't flashy, but it is functional. For a smaller station, it seems to do a fairly nice job.
 
I'll throw in my 2 cents for Station Playlist. I used it for over a year and only had it burp a couple of times, and that could have been because of my underpowered computer. For commercial stations it is a minor challenge setting up your spots unless you use, and pay for a third party traffic program, but it can be done until you really get a lot of sponsors/spots. I also got mine to handle sat programs off XDS and Wegener receivers. Again, a minor challenge setting it up, but when set it did work well. A huge plus is their customer support. They have a Yahoo group that the software author is on almost every day. Almost any questions gets lots of responses.

I think SPL got pigeoned holed as a hobbyist or part 15 type program but is does have some very sophisiticated features. I still use it for live assist shows. remotes and ball games, and backup on two stations. Get the "pro" versions if you are serious about radio, and the Station Playlist/Creator bundle. SPL is the playout system and Creator builds the playlists, adds spots, jingles, VT, ect. for automation.
 
Nostalgia said:
I think SPL got pigeoned holed as a hobbyist or part 15 type program but is does have some very sophisiticated features. I still use it for live assist shows. remotes and ball games, and backup on two stations. Get the "pro" versions if you are serious about radio, and the Station Playlist/Creator bundle. SPL is the playout system and Creator builds the playlists, adds spots, jingles, VT, ect. for automation.
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I've described Station Playlist as a hobbyist program, but really, the only thing it lacks is a segue and voicetrack editor.

It tracks very nicely, however, within its limitations: VTs are recorded dry, and it backtimes them perfectly up intros. The built-in segue algorithm does quite a good job on most any music file. For spots and problem tracks, segues are set manually in the scheduler's 'track tool' (VT intro times are also set there.)

Personally, I appreciate NOT having to geek around with setting up segues, it just does them.

This is the best system around for under $500US, and it seems to run nicely on a variety of hardware.

Also: Ross Levis provides good support for the system for what I suspect is the lowest price in the business.
 
ironbear said:
I've described Station Playlist as a hobbyist program, but really, the only thing it lacks is a segue and voicetrack editor.
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Perhaps lacking a segue editor in the traditional sense, you still can adjust any track for start, end and seque points within the Track Tool utility.

It does take a little getting use to recording voicetrack dry, but I've seen this work quite well for remote staffers either voicetracking or sending in remote audio for drop-ins. Newer versions have a built-in audio recorder for voicetracks.

I've run several stations using the system and for an under $1000 system I think it's the best of the group. Of course if you have the extra money to spend there's many more to select from but some circumstances simply don't allow for it. I was able to build up a on-campus station that allows students to learn about broadcasting and StationPlaylist both fit helped their budget and allows the students to learn without overly complex command structures or elaborate programming techniques.

Even with the limitations I think StationPlaylist would perform well in a terrestrial station environment, especially when paired up with an external traffic system (currently they recommend Natural Log or Traffic Light). Those interested can read my past StationPlaylist review in Radio World.

I think it's a nice low-cost option for stations unable to afford a bigger systems from Nextgen on up.
 
StationPlaylist definitely works well for the LPFM I am involved with. I have yet to experiment with voicetracking on it, but may try that out soon.
 
Zara is free.
 
Bill Wolfenbarger said:
Zara is free.
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Free is good but sometimes you get what you paid for. I recently heard somebody say they actually downgraded to an older version as the newer software eliminated some feature. If that really was the case it sounds like it things are going backwards if they really eliminated features.
 
SPL Creator+Studio win hands-down for a 24/7 automated system - especially if you are feeding it voicetracks, they just play with the appropriate ducking and the timing works very well. The additional task of having your talent record artist/group specific links is also good - plus the time-announcers. With some initial work, an automated service can sound rather good. However, for most of us - it's not a very good live-assist application unless you're running a talk format or just starting/stopping, there isn't much scope for creativity - especially if you're used to several players to fire things from.
 
Charlie said:
However, for most of us - it's not a very good live-assist application unless you're running a talk format or just starting/stopping, there isn't much scope for creativity - especially if you're used to several players to fire things from.
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OK, I have to ask: couldn't you do the same thing by just adding to the playlist sequentially? I do understand that the concept of multiple players may be more easily grasped by people familiar with triple decker cart machines, but I would think you should be able to come close.

I know I have seen the systems with multiple players and while some systems do a great job of implementing them I have seen a couple of systems that were so convoluted and confusing that they didn't deserve to be marketed! I will concede that while I love StationPlaylist in the sub-$1000 class I think the user interface for the player can be improved. With all the sightless users running it with screen reading software I would guess the layout won't change anytime soon.
 
Charlie said:
SPL Creator+Studio win hands-down for a 24/7 automated system - especially if you are feeding it voicetracks, they just play with the appropriate ducking and the timing works very well. The additional task of having your talent record artist/group specific links is also good - plus the time-announcers. With some initial work, an automated service can sound rather good. However, for most of us - it's not a very good live-assist application unless you're running a talk format or just starting/stopping, there isn't much scope for creativity - especially if you're used to several players to fire things from.
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I'll agree with this. For true live stuff I use mAirlist (www.mairlist.com), a very powerful package from Germany, a fast support response, highly configurable etc. In fact, it's so configurable, tinkerers will love it (can be locked down)..... The only thing missing for me right now is true Voicetracking although that is on the roadmap and there is a script that works around it...

My station runs SPL for the core and mAirlist does the live and pre-recs.
 
Add another vote for mAirList. I have it at a station, and they love it.
The customer service/tech support is excellent, and the program itself is extremely stable (should be given the designer carries an actual PhD in Computer Science).

What I most love about mAirList is how configurable it is. You can lay out the GUI to look and function like any other system, or you can get creative and design it to your liking. While mAirList is not yet popular in the US, one day it will be, and I'm thinking other companies will then be getting a little nervous :)
 
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