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Radio Eq.: Garofalo, Majority Report Saying Goodbye

http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/

"Has Janeane Garofalo's liberal talk show been declared FUBAR by Air America Radio? With one source indicating (via hard copy information) that it may leave the airwaves as soon as tonight, it appears very likely that the self- loathing and acerbic talker / actress / Hollywood political hothead may already have done her last show...In addition, the "Majority Report" show appears to have been cancelled, with co-host Sam Seder possibly heading into a temporary late- evening hosting role in many Air America markets outside of New York City"
 
In case you are wondering: FUBAR = F___ed Up Beyond All Recognition.

First off, this is Maloney. Wait until it actually happens before you break out the Kleenex or the Champagne. ::)

The Majority Report is heard on a minority of progressive talk stations. Outside of the West Coast, those that take Ed Schultz and then run Randi Rhodes on delay don't carry the show.

It is hard to see how AAR could make money with this show. Janeane Garofolo was one of their two marquee names - without radio experience - that AAR signed (and renewed) early on, and (over)paid accordingly. The show has never gotten good clearance. Any other broadcaster would be happy to save the cost of producing a show that wasn't paying its own way.

Co-host Sam Seder possibly heading into a temporary late- evening hosting role in many Air America markets outside of New York City
What does this mean? It sounds like Baloney is also predicting the departure of Mike Malloy, with Seder taking over the show. AAR took Malloy off in New York to run the Satellite Sisters from ABC (delayed from middays) in his time slot. So, what's happening with Malloy? Signing with Jones or another syndicator is a possibility. Here again, AAR has not gotten very good clearances in this time slot with some stations taking WOR's Lionel or the recently departed Phil Hendrie.

Outside New York? Maloney was one of those "reporting" that AAR would lose its LMA on WLIB, New York. If that happens next month as predicted, all bets are off on who is carried in the late night slot anyway. Is Maloney backing down on his prediction?

A fill in host from San Diego is doing Majority Report this week. Seder is filling in for Randi Rhodes.
 
racconradio said:
"Has Janeane Garofalo's liberal talk show been declared FUBAR by Air America Radio? With one source indicating (via hard copy information) that it may leave the airwaves as soon as tonight, it appears very likely that the self- loathing and acerbic talker / actress / Hollywood political hothead may already have done her last show...In addition, the "Majority Report" show appears to have been cancelled, with co-host Sam Seder possibly heading into a temporary late- evening hosting role in many Air America markets outside of New York City"

Wow, another classic DEFINITE MAYBE from the Unequalizer. I want to call Animal Control with all the weasel words in this "breaking news" item. Let's review:

1) The Fox Question technique: Put forward your opinion by putting it in the form of a loaded question!
2) "Via hard copy information." Oooh, that made me tingly all over... hard copy information. Like that makes it extra authoritative... except...
3) "It may," "It appears very likely," "may already," "appears to have been," "possibly," "temporary ... in many...." all this in three run on sentences!

There's also nothing like an "independent media analyst" who puts "FUBAR," "self-loathing and acerbic" and "hothead" into a "news piece." Regardless of whatever you think of Garafalo and Seder, they are both something that Brian Baloney is not: EMPLOYED.

What is surprising to me is that people still read him and quote from him when he has been wrong on EVERYTHING he has predicted. Among the claims he made:

1) Air America is going out of business - reported in late 2004, spring 2005, summer 2005, fall 2005, winter 2005/6, spring 2006, summer 2006.
2) Randi Rhodes is being investigated by "authorities." (He got this from Drudge who made it up.)
3) AAR under criminal investigation for stealing money.
4) AAR salaries revealed (to be wrong, that is, especially about Al Franken's salary and his 22 year old producer).

Only O'Reilly has predicted the demise of AAR more than Baloney, and all this after they keep on signing four year contracts and are chugging along.
 
Maloney hopes if AAR goes out of business, progressive talk radio will wither and die.

I say if AAR does not go out of business (in its present form and with its present managment) it will destroy progressive talk radio through incompetence.

And as I recall, AAR was (maybe is) under investigation. Maloney predicted AAR will go out of business. They would without infusions of cash. This is not a self-sustaining business. And Maloney is not the only one to point out AAR's habit of over-spending (including salaries). Maloney does have an axe to grind, but so do you, Phil.

And these contracts mean nothing.
 
didn't she have a drug problem? maybe she could do a show with rush
 
drtylawndre said:
didn't she have a drug problem? maybe she could do a show with rush
No. She was off the air for surgery last year.
 
>>F___ed Up Beyond All Recognition.

Yup--I saw Saving Pvt Ryan recently, and once character--the translator Upham, I believe, doesn't at
first know what FUBAR means.

>>AAR's habit of over-spending

Who do they think they are, (primarily Democratic) Mass. politicians? "The Big Dig"!
 
racconradio said:
>>AAR's habit of over-spending

Who do they think they are, (primarily Democratic) Mass. politicians? "The Big Dig"!

Yeah, who do they think they are? George Bush and the Republican Congress?
 
fred flintstone said:
And as I recall, AAR was (maybe is) under investigation.

No, they never were. I actually did what Baloney hoped nobody would ever do - check out his facts. Evan Cohen, former CEO who flamed out within a month of AAR's launch was the guy under investigation for questionable loan dealings with a city agency in the mother of all conflicts of interest loan deals. AAR has been Piquant since summer 2004, a totally new company. AAR stepped up and cut a series of checks to repay the loan, despite no obligation to do so. The right wingers, mostly fed by people like Baloney, "expanded" the investigation against one guy who wasn't even working at AAR when the investigation started into an investigation of Air America Radio as an entity.

Maloney predicted AAR will go out of business.

This is like saying, "it's going to rain today according to inside sources." Then it doesn't rain for seven days and on the eighth day it rains and we get a guy who takes credit for that and claims insider knowledge. It's called "guesswork" and O'Reilly and Baloney have made the same prediction not less than 15 times for O'Reilly, at least six times for Baloney and counting. We're way beyond "fool me once, can't get fooled again" here.

They would without infusions of cash. This is not a self-sustaining business. And Maloney is not the only one to point out AAR's habit of over-spending (including salaries). Maloney does have an axe to grind, but so do you, Phil.

Correcting the record with actual facts is not axe grinding, it's living life in a reality-based world. No passport or visa required.

Overspending is in the eye of the beholder, especially considering the outrageous salaries being paid to a lot of entertainment personalities these days. It's a private company, so who cares?
 
It's good to use weasel words despite all of those "hard copy" sources he claims to have. Majority Report just published their schedule of show topics for this week, as they do every week, so here we have yet ANOTHER example of why the Unequalizer makes it up as he goes along, claiming anonymous sources for what is really guesswork on his part (with that built-in bias), with just enough weasel holes to run down when it turns out his "hard copy" needs Cialis.

To the people who post his trash over here, don't be a sucker and diminish your own credibility by relying on sources like this.
 
An update - as a lot of us suspected, Garafalo is likely leaving Majority Report. This wasn't much of a surprise considering her often "phoned in" appearances on the show.

Majority Report continues as a show.
 
Okay, so I couldn't resist.

Just had to check in with Brian Baloneypony. Can't believe his obsession with anything resembling progressive or liberal media.

He's obsessed with wishing AAR is as dead as his own radio career.

What a pathetic loser.
 
MattNC said:
Daily Kos has made a few quick mentions of Majority Report being in trouble:

"Majority Report Radio with Sam Seder is on the bubble at Air America. If you like the show, send an email of support to: [email protected]"

AAR is considering revamping their night lineup, particularly because many AAR stations don't clear MR because they carry Schultz and tape delay Rhodes in their slot. Then at 10, many head for Lionel instead of Malloy. I've always thought the post-drive time slot til 11pm is really tough for anyone. People at home are watching TV and many others don't have big reasons to be on the road at that hour. I am not personally a big MR fan. It's too preachy for me and not entertaining enough.

You don't have to claim to have "inside sources" when you look at the public affiliate list to see a show in trouble when it lacks affiliate support. Which is exactly why Jerry Springer shouldn't quit his other day job.

Seder isn't the problem, so it would not be a surprise to me to see him as a co-host on another show, say with Maddow for instance.
 
AAR is not raking in the bucks. They would be better off programming weekdays from 6am to 7pm, the only dayparts that matter in radio from either an audience or revenue perspective. Cut costs. And given the current state of their line-up, they would be better off programming from 9am to 7pm and give morning drive back to local stations, where it belongs. Evening shows only matter on this board, not in the real world.
 
fred flintstone said:
AAR is not raking in the bucks. They would be better off programming weekdays from 6am to 7pm, the only dayparts that matter in radio from either an audience or revenue perspective. Cut costs. And given the current state of their line-up, they would be better off programming from 9am to 7pm and give morning drive back to local stations, where it belongs. Evening shows only matter on this board, not in the real world.

I have news for you. No full-service network or media venture the stature of AAR is "raking in the bucks" after only two years on the air. It takes years to get in the black.

Is Relevant Radio making money? Educational Media Foundation? Salem's secular formats? Hell, how about Radio Disney?

And nobody but the people at AAR know how profitable or unprofitable it is, since it's a privately held company. Are you privvy to some inside financial information, or just winging it?

If they've got the cash flow, they have every right to decide what to program. And I don't think they need financial advice from critics who don't like their product anyway.

And late evening shows can work on radio. Look at Phil Hendrie, Art Bell, Larry King, Lionel. Stations need stuff to plug in here, and believe it or not, there are people listening (though not as many as during the day). Sure beats running static.
 
FightingIrish said:
I have news for you. No full-service network or media venture the stature of AAR is "raking in the bucks" after only two years on the air. It takes years to get in the black.

Is Relevant Radio making money? Educational Media Foundation? Salem's secular formats? Hell, how about Radio Disney?

And nobody but the people at AAR know how profitable or unprofitable it is, since it's a privately held company. Are you privvy to some inside financial information, or just winging it?

If they've got the cash flow, they have every right to decide what to program. And I don't think they need financial advice from critics who don't like their product anyway.

And late evening shows can work on radio. Look at Phil Hendrie, Art Bell, Larry King, Lionel. Stations need stuff to plug in here, and believe it or not, there are people listening (though not as many as during the day). Sure beats running static.

Premiere Radio feeds news-talk programming 9am to 6pm and 1am to 5am.
TRN has live feeds 9am to 6pm and 7pm to 1 am.
ABC feeds live news-talk 12pm to 9pm (two shows between 6 and 8 pm)
Westwood One provides live talk programming 5 am-10 am (two programs 5 to 6 am), 12pm to 2 pm (two shows 1 to 2pm), 6pm to 1am (two shows 7 to 9pm).
Radio America does live feeds 4am to 1 pm and 3 pm to 9 pm.
WOR Network shows go live 12 pm to 3 pm, 9 pm to 9 am.
Fox Radio has live shows 9 am to 12 pm, 6 pm to 9pm and 10 pm to 1 am.
Jones Radio feeds liberal talk shows from 6 am to 12 pm and 3 pm to 6 pm and other talk (libertarian and consumer advice) 10 am to 4 pm.

The leading talk syndicators feed when they have a viable product and a competitive entry. They don't waste their money producing shows that don't sell just to fill time.

I do not claim to be privy to AAR's financial numbers. I am aware they continue to require seed funding from the Drobnys and other backers. As you state, no one would expect money to be rolling in at this point under the best of circumstances. I do say it would make business sense for AAR to make the best possible use of their resouces and cull poorly-performing entries. The same applies to any business, in any field, in a similar situation.

AAR's conceit was to imagine themselves a "full service" network like those you site, who (from all available indications) are mostly not making money either. These turn-key "networks" are pretty much consigned to low-power, low-revenue automated stations with few listeners. They are the minor leagues of national program distribution (the one possible exception being ESPN Radio). They serve niche audiences and are only able to make money only by keeping operating costs low. If that is all AAR aspires to, then so be it. But AAR says they want to play ball with big kids.

You are right, it's their money (or Sheldon Drobny's money). They can waste it if they want to.
But sometimes static makes better business sense. Progressive talk stations would do better with ballgames in the evening and brokered programming on weekends - stuff they can sell, even when noboby's listening.

PS: Larry King does not do a radio show any more (Westwood One distributes edited audio from his CNN show). Jim Bohannon took over the radio show after King's heart attack almost 20 years ago, and still does the show. Phil Hendire quit his show in June (no replacement, Premiere is "running static" in the time slot) . George Noory took over Art Bell's show during week (Bell currently does weekend broadcasts) almost 10 years ago. All these graveyard shift programs had more buzz than audience or revenue. But they were (and are) cheap to do and therefore could show black in. Such programming makes more sense for a large, profitable distributor as "value-added" features than for a company in AAR's apparent financial situation.
 
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