Re: P.S.
***My replies are interspersed.
> So now you are saying that my part 15 was not legal.. It
> was, I have the engineering certifications to prove it, and
> the FCC has a copy of them. I sold it because I wanted to
> sell it. I was time for me to move on.
***Huh? Here are your own words, "These guyes ARE doing something, and I tip my hat to them. I hope they win the case. If they do, You can bet I will also look into firing up a 10 watter ON FM!!!!!". Since you don't make any reference to obtaining a licensed 10 watt station I have to presume you are talking about starting up your own unlicensed 10 watt station if Radio Free Brattleboro receives approval from the Judge to continue broadcasting. That CLEARLY is the message you are stating here.
And where do I even address your part 15 station? Have you been nipping at the cooking Sherry prior to posting these messages? Honestly, you sound like you are an acid casualty!
You appear to be out in left field here and apparently you don't recall your own statements or the context in which they were made.
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> now, you, on the otherhand don't understand that all the
> work your doing is most likely going to pot.... I am saying,
> if the FCC wants it to happen it will.... No Bull carp about
> it.... It's time the citizens of this land diden't take
> "wait" for an answer. LPAM, LPFM, PART 15, Whatever... We
> will all be dead before anything not now allowed becomes
> legal.
***Most of your comments on this string have been assinine starting with the one that we don't even have community broadcasting in this country.
Oh ye of little faith you hardly sound like an American citizen. You indictated that a revolution was in order to change things. Have you considered organizing one?
If all my work were going to pot I'd be a rich man.

Seriously, I tend to look at the glass as being half full. We got LPFM even if it was not the combined commercial and non commercial service that many of us wished for.
Part 15 broadcasting has been growing exponentially since I first got active in promoting it some 8 years ago. I am pleased to know that I've helped a lot of people to get on the air with their own stations regardless of whether or not they purchased a transmitter. I call that having a positive influence on others and the result that was achieved made me very happy even if it did not result in a sale.
Maybe all this work to develop licensed LPAM is a waste but you never know until you try. At least I will go down fighting for what I believe in. I won't become a coward and quit or simply turn a blind eye to serious issues like the majority of the very shallow, ignorant American public.
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> Why should we wait? Havent we waited long enough? Havent we
> commented to the FCC enough?... I say, enough is enough!..
> It's time for the FCC to stop waiting us to death, and get
> their asses in gear!
***Now you sound like a two bit dictator. Yes, the bureacratic red tape is frustrating at times and I too wish things would speed along at a better clip. But if you had ANY understanding of how the legal and political process works in this country you'd understand why it sometimes takes many years to achieve meaningful change.
Our Founding Fathers creating a system of checks and balances that would make it difficult to centralize too much power into the hands of any one government or individual. This is why it sometimes takes years to accomplish what would seemingly be an easy project to quickly develop and have the desired result in a matter of months.
Whether you like it or not the FCC is undermanned across the board. Right now the LPFM vs. Translator issue is taking up a lot of their time. When that is over and done then they could act on LPAM as long as we don't see any more serious issues suddenly crop up.
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> Now, what ever you post in your next message I will not
> comment.. I had enough... Simply our views on this subject
> is deffently different... I will not try to convince you, I
> am simply stating my opinion, be is as it may... It's good
> to see someone fighting, at least in a revoultionary
> fashion... You, your fighting a battle that will rage on
> through your lefttime.
***This is the third time you've said you will not respond to my reply. Why then do you persist? My only interest here is to correct the serious flaws contained in your opinions on this issue.
I've been a fighter since the day I was born. I don't give up. This is why the Marines were recruiting me when I was 16 years old. Sometimes I do have to take a step backwards or make a lateral move to redirect myself to lead to the ultimate goal. But do I quit? No.
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> you can't broadcast from heaven.... But then, I suppose it
> won't matter at that point will it?
***You are on your way to a stroke or a heart attack at the very least. You are one of the most negative and bitter people I've ever encountered.
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> > Bill, Bill, Bill...
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> > You are overwhelmingly negative with a defeatist attitude.
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> > Yes, with that attitude things will never change because
> you
> > live in a world of self fulfilling prophecy. I sincerely
> > hope that your attitude does not rub off on the people
> that
> > read your messages.
> >
> > I am willing to bet that you were also one of the people
> > that thought LPFM could not happen. Well it did happen.
> > Can LPAM happen? Yes, if we do our homework and get a
> > groundswell of support from key people just like LPFM then
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> > of course it will happen. Since we are only looking at
> > putting stations in the expanded band (which is hardly
> over
> > populated) and there are no special short spacing rules
> > being asked for it is entirely possible we can get this
> > approved within a few years.
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> > The FCC hardly wants to lose control of the airwaves to
> > state law. For starters it is illegal and second it will
> > put an end to a lot of community stations that presently
> > broadcast.
> >
> > When you say "These guyes ARE doing something, and I tip
> my
> > hat to them. I hope they win the case. If they do, You can
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> > bet I will also look into firing up a 10 watter ON
> FM!!!!!"
> > I really have to laugh. I presume you are talking about
> > Radio Free Brattleboro in Vermont. Well, I hate to BURST
> > YOUR BUBBLE because you clearly DO NOT understand the law
> > and how it applies in this case. This case, if judged in
> > favor of RFB, would allow them to stay on the air in
> > Brattleboro, Vermont. And because a Judge has disregarded
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> > Federal law and created a local law that conflicts with a
> > Federal law it will allow other states or cities to create
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> > their own broadcast laws. At one time the states did
> govern
> > "intrastate" broadcasting but that was overturned in the
> > 1930's when the FCC was created and laid claim to
> governing
> > ALL broadcasts in the United States.
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> > You can fire up your little 10 watt transmitter in New
> > Jersey if you wish but that law in Vermont will not have
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> > muscle outside of that state and more likely if I recall,
> it
> > is limited to the City of Brattleboro. In fact if you try
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> > to do that in New Jersey, once this bill is passed into
> law,
> > you will be committing a Felony and you will face a fine
> up
> > to 10 grand and imprisonment up to 18 months.
> >
http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2004/Bills/A3500/3082_I1.HTM
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> > You better pray the FLA law is overturned otherwise you
> > won't see any more unlicensed broadcasting in New Jersey.
> > Right now under the FCC you simply get an NAL and then go
> > through the process of deciding whether to fight them or
> > turn it off. If NJ enacts this law you'll be going to
> jail.
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> > Clearly, you really don't understand the ramifications
> > involved with the undermining of the FCC's ability to
> govern
> > the airwaves. You speak from the heart but your opinions
> > are not grounded entirely in fact or reality or with an
> > understanding of how law works in this country.
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> > What I see is an incredibly bitter man who is so angry
> about
> > what happened to him that he wants to see others suffer in
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> > the same manner as he. Sad...
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> > > William, William, William....
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> > > LPAM won't happen.... The FCC won't stop the states,
> and
> > in
> > > reality, you and I will be dead before anything happens
> > with
> > > LPAM anything.... face the frequency. Corruption, and
> > > Control is what "Thay" want.
> > >
> > > Nothing will happen in our life time.... We are fed up.
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> > > Thats the bottom line, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting....
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> > > all Bull.... Your wasting you time, and so is all the
> > > citizens orgs for community radio. And IBOC... So, what
> > > about IBOC with community broadcasting? Another issue
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> > > would take even more years to figure out with the FCC
> and
> > > community or un-licenses broadcasting.
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> > > I was involved in radio since you were in diapers. I
> had
> > a
> > > pirate in my early teens, and I was on for 8 years, they
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> > > knew I was there, and they diden't care, and so did
> > stations
> > > in Philadelphia. hell, I even worked for stations in
> > > engineering while I was pirating... and the Chief
> > Engineers
> > > knew I was pirating.
> > > Many Chiefs are pissed too!. FCC taking away the Chief
> > > Engineer requirement, dropping the First Class
> License....
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> > > That put a lot of people out of a jobs.
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> > > William, Bursting your bubble... Revolutionary actions
> > are
> > > requirered now. Weather that be directly taking the FCC
> to
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> > > court, or local governments to court. But whom has that
> > kind
> > > of money or even time? These guyes ARE doing something,
> > and
> > > I tip my hat to them. I hope they win the case. If they
> > do,
> > > You can bet I will also look into firing up a 10 watter
> ON
> >
> > > FM!!!!!
> > >
> > > Na, this is my last post. You won't convince me, and I
> > > probally won't convince you. Nothing is happening, with
> > > doing it "legally". and it won't.
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> > > > I should also add that when one form of government
> does
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> > > not
> > > > uphold the law that either it or another form of
> > > government
> > > > has legislated it can be construed as "corruption".
> > > Surely
> > > > you both don't support a corrupt government.
> > > >
> > > > In addition, we have been over this issue before Bill
> > but
> > > to
> > > > be honest simply whining about it on this board is not
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> > > going
> > > > to accomplish anything. If you are that angry about
> it
> > > then
> > > > why not do something about it?
> > > >
> > > > I have been involved with community broadcasting for
> > > > decades. It started out as a hobby while I was in
> high
> > > > school in the late 1970's and I've been involved ever
> > > since.
> > > > I too don't like the way the system has worked to
> push
> > > out
> > > > Mom and Pop broadcasters or local non profit's at the
> > > > expense of NPR and Corporate America therefore I AM
> > DOING
> > > > SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
> > > >
> > > > For years I have played an ACTIVE role in the
> > development
> > > of
> > > > licensed LPFM, LPAM and Part 15 AM unlicensed
> > > broadcasting.
> > > > I have recruited others to work on these projects and
> > > > together we have achieved some success. There are
> > others
> > > > that have also taken a leadership role in LPFM and
> > played
> > > a
> > > > more prominent role than I in the creation of LPFM and
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> > > they
> > > > too are to be applauded for trying to fix a system
> that
> > is
> > >
> > > > not working right.
> > > >
> > > > Over the last decade the FCC has slowly relaxed part
> 15
> > > > rules allowing for more part 15 stations to get on the
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> > air
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> > > > with better tranmsitters. LPFM was created to keep
> the
> > > > "Granola" type people happy. Granolas don't like
> > > commercial
> > > > radio.
> > > >
> > > > Now commercial LPAM is a possibility and we are
> working
> > > > toward the realization of this goal that will allow
> > > > entrepreneurs and indivuals an opportunity to run a
> > legal,
> > >
> > > > licensed, commercial AM station with a few mile radius
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> > to
> > > > serve new niche markets and offer Mom and Pop
> businesses
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> > > > that cannot afford the advertising rates on big
> stations
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> > > to
> > > > grow their business on LPAM.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone out there that wants to continue to cry about
> the
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> > > > "big, bad, FCC" may do so. But instead of simply
> > whining
> > > > about the problem why not try to do something about
> it.
> >
> > > Put
> > > > your money where you mouth is and do something to help
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> > > > yourselves and others.
> > > >
> > > > The government is a big, bloated beauracrasy and it
> > takes
> > > > years to get things done. But I've outlined some of
> the
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> > > > positive results that have been achieved over the last
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> > ten
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> > > > years and I hope that ten years from now licensed,
> > > > commercial LPAM will be a past achievement. Then
> we'll
> > be
> > >
> > > > setting our sights on more community radio projects.
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