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Radio-info.com mentioned on KFNC this afternoon

Of course I dont think some of you will appreciate how it was mentioned as Jim Pruett was commenting on a post here about how Chuck Savage would make a good traffic guy. Both Chuck and Brian Shannon began to groan as Jim was in mid sentence. Both began saying they dont even bother with this site. That its filled with radio wannabes and wannabe radio programmers who have never been in the industry. (Not true on this end.. Ok I had a weekend shift at a station in Corpus for about a year... does that count?) Brian went on to call us called us the Geek Squad. I didn't like that too much.

I thought for sure someone had heard it and would beat me to posting it.
 
> Of course I dont think some of you will appreciate how it
> was mentioned as Jim Pruett was commenting on a post here
> about how Chuck Savage would make a good traffic guy. Both
> Chuck and Brian Shannon began to groan as Jim was in mid
> sentence. Both began saying they dont even bother with this
> site. That its filled with radio wannabes and wannabe radio
> programmers who have never been in the industry. (Not true
> on this end.. Ok I had a weekend shift at a station in
> Corpus for about a year... does that count?) Brian went on
> to call us called us the Geek Squad. I didn't like that too
> much.
>
> I thought for sure someone had heard it and would beat me to
> posting it.
>

I heard it. I thought Pruett might take it somewhere. I think the "groaning" thru him off.

also, Fixx knows about the board.<P ID="signature">______________

"I'll see you Left of the Dial!"</P>
 
> Of course I dont think some of you will appreciate how it
> was mentioned as Jim Pruett was commenting on a post here
> about how Chuck Savage would make a good traffic guy. Both
> Chuck and Brian Shannon began to groan as Jim was in mid
> sentence.

All things being equal, most of us who know him begin to groan when we hear Pruett's name, as well. ;)
 
"Both began saying they dont even bother with this site. That its filled with radio wannabes and wannabe radio programmers who have never been in the industry."

Funny how people will say that they don't bother with the site for that very reason.
Maybe if they participated that statement wouldn't be true.
I realize that some people can be extremely busy and may not have time to spend here (I know I've had less lately than I have in the past), but it's pretty silly to make a statement like that.
Would they say the same thing about something like RockAid?
I doubt it.
I personally think that this is a nice place for people with an interest (whether they work in the industry or not) in radio to talk about radio.
I think if more people in the industry got involved with the site it could be even better, but that's just my two cents.
 
> All things being equal, most of us who know him begin to
> groan when we hear Pruett's name, as well. ;)
>
Yeah....that's funny. I would venture to say that if any radio personalities say they don't read this board, then they are not being truthful. They're just covering it up. Why would they saying anything about it on the radio if they don't read it?
There probably just mad because of all the negative things that have been said on here. Oh well....bad press is better than no press!

If they were smart, they would listen to some of us wanna be's and have a great radio station. Just remember KFNC, if you want to dog us...that's fine, but it's not good to treat the listeners and RI with that kind of disrespect. If the listeners didn't exist, then you wouldn't have a job in radio. Food for thought!

SW
 
Yeah, and they've done such a stellar job that they are now hanging on by a thread to their sinking radio careers, on a rimshot news/talk station.

My choice to leave radio was my choice. I got tired of choosing between eating and paying rent. Not to mention, tired of 16 hour days and 6 to 7 day work weeks. Not to mention, I was not comfortable as management, having my hands tied by corporate policies and having my personalities turned into glorified script and card readers.

This "wanna" be PD can go back to radio anytime he wants, but I decided to work smart, not hard. It doesn't take away my right to have an opinion of a radio station, especially when they are under performing and are not utilizing all their options.

I applaud Cumulus for taking a risk with both these formats, unfortunately they are taking more wrong turns with both stations. I applaud for bringing in recognizable talent, but the Rock side is extremely stale and KFNC lacks consistancy and stability. Not to mention, if you're going to bill yourself as a news station, you need to have a better news presence locally, statewide, and nationally.

I'm not out to insult anyone. I'm here to offer opinions and observation of what I hear. I'm not saying my suggestions are right, but I'm going by the success I have had and have seen in the past, in giving my opinions. If they're insulting us, it must be because we are right in our assesments, and they are insulting us to hide their own inadequacies. Just a thought. <P ID="signature">______________
"I Believe In The Power Of Love."
Luther Vandross 1951-2005</P>
 
If Savage and Shannon said they never read this board, they are full of it. They would have no idea what has been said and discussed about KFNC and the personnel at the station if they don't read R-I. When they are that quick to dismiss R-I, you know that they are reading about the station and themselves. They just don't like what they have read.

Jim Pruett's show has had generally good comments from what I have read. Jim may have the highest acceptance of any show on KFNC at this time. His show is far better than the syndicated fare from 9am to noon and where in God's name did KFNC get the Business Program from 1pm to 2pm? KFNC would be so much better off dropping that program and add another hour of Pruett and Company. I realize a Talk show is not the easiest programming to work, but too often Jim is really going great and it is time for the show to end.

If W&J can handle a 4.5 hour show, I think Jim Pruett can handle a 4 hour show.

Savage is a stand-up comic at various venues around Houston. I have never seen his show and have no idea if he is good, great or bad, anymore than he knows how many stations I may have been the PD at over the years. Some on the board have mentioned stations that they were PD's at over the years and it was interesting to find out where they had worked. It would be interesting to hear more of their experiences, if they want to write about them.

There is also a good amount of people that currently work in the industry that post on this board. They have to keep a very low profile unfortunately.

Mike O
 
>
> There is also a good amount of people that currently work in
> the industry that post on this board. They have to keep a
> very low profile unfortunately.
>
> Mike O
>
There are some very knowledgeable posters on this board and some who are in la-la land. Makes for an interesting mix though the topics that keep getting beat to death over and over can make it very tiresome. I had never realized you had programming experience in addition to your obvious expertise in technical matters; I thought you were just a very knowledgeable and thoughtful listener.

Big companies in BC have long been concerned about giving away all the cookies in the company cookie jar. I worked for a major broadcaster that prohibited any of its employees from participating in industry seminars and conventions, etc., except as spectators -- we could not serve on panel discussions or give lectures because we might give away some company 'secret'. Today, there are nothing but big companies left in BC and they don't want to help the competition in any way.

It's been mentioned before that Infinity employees are prohibited from posting here and I suspect it's true of other companies. Tubby posted many times right after Legends came on but hasn't in a long time, I think. So did the PD of 93Q at that time.
 
> > All things being equal, most of us who know him begin to
> > groan when we hear Pruett's name, as well. ;)
> >
> Yeah....that's funny. I would venture to say that if any
> radio personalities say they don't read this board, then
> they are not being truthful. They're just covering it up.
> Why would they saying anything about it on the radio if they
> don't read it?
> There probably just mad because of all the negative things
> that have been said on here. Oh well....bad press is better
> than no press!
>
> If they were smart, they would listen to some of us wanna
> be's and have a great radio station. Just remember KFNC, if
> you want to dog us...that's fine, but it's not good to treat
> the listeners and RI with that kind of disrespect. If the
> listeners didn't exist, then you wouldn't have a job in
> radio. Food for thought!
>
> SW
>

Boy did you hit the nail on the head!

I feel the same way about KIOL. It's a bad package.
If the listeners are overwhelmingly underwhelmed with your product (oxy moron, I know), then you should fix it.

I look at this board not as the means to fix broken radio, but as an arena of ideas available for everybody with interest to view and form their own opinions.

I'm not offended, nor am I impressed by Pruett's hostility and maliciousness toward this board.
He has a right to say whatever he wants. We have a right not to listen.
After all, isn't that what Houston radio is about?
 
> > > All things being equal, most of us who know him begin to
>
> > > groan when we hear Pruett's name, as well. ;)
> > >
> > Yeah....that's funny. I would venture to say that if any
> > radio personalities say they don't read this board, then
> > they are not being truthful. They're just covering it up.
> > Why would they saying anything about it on the radio if
> they
> > don't read it?
> > There probably just mad because of all the negative things
>
> > that have been said on here. Oh well....bad press is
> better
> > than no press!
> >
> > If they were smart, they would listen to some of us wanna
> > be's and have a great radio station. Just remember KFNC,
> if
> > you want to dog us...that's fine, but it's not good to
> treat
> > the listeners and RI with that kind of disrespect. If the
> > listeners didn't exist, then you wouldn't have a job in
> > radio. Food for thought!
> >
> > SW
> >
>
> Boy did you hit the nail on the head!
>
> I feel the same way about KIOL. It's a bad package.
> If the listeners are overwhelmingly underwhelmed with your
> product (oxy moron, I know), then you should fix it.
>
> I look at this board not as the means to fix broken radio,
> but as an arena of ideas available for everybody with
> interest to view and form their own opinions.
>
> I'm not offended, nor am I impressed by Pruett's hostility
> and maliciousness toward this board.
> He has a right to say whatever he wants. We have a right not
> to listen.
> After all, isn't that what Houston radio is about?
>



WAIT. I thought we were all about fixing broken radio.
 
> WAIT. I thought we were all about fixing broken radio.
>

We want to fix broken radio. That IS what we're about
However, all we can realistically hope to do on this board is exchange ideas. No PD or exec is going to read this board and immediately say, "OK, let's do that now! It's a good idea."

Industry reps and radio personel (lots of them) do read this board, but they have to keep a low profile, so we couldn't know who was doing what.

I doubt very many decisions within terrestrial radio have been a direct result of posts here, but you never know.
 
Heh heh - they dont bother with this site.

They may not post, but they read it if its about them....<P ID="signature">______________

AOL IM: wnjoldies or jamminoldies105
CBS-FM lives at http://67.83.115.5:8010
Oldies Board co-moderator</P>
 
I'll post what we already know.

Does anyone remember making any posts here that could be damaging to someone else's career? You know, a little too personal, revealing and unflattering. All from behind a non-identifying user name. Yep, that would make a person uncomfortable and want to lash out.

Has anyone here left a large employer to start a new venture only to read "industry experts" repeatedly state that your employer and subsequent employment is doomed? Assumptions stated as fact. Predicted future events are assumptions, right?

Sadly, people are reading and taking those words personally.

Wouldn't you?
 
> I'll post what we already know.
>
> Does anyone remember making any posts here that could be
> damaging to someone else's career? You know, a little too
> personal, revealing and unflattering. All from behind a
> non-identifying user name. Yep, that would make a person
> uncomfortable and want to lash out.
>
> Has anyone here left a large employer to start a new venture
> only to read "industry experts" repeatedly state that your
> employer and subsequent employment is doomed? Assumptions
> stated as fact. Predicted future events are assumptions,
> right?
>
> Sadly, people are reading and taking those words personally.
>
>
> Wouldn't you?
>
*biting my tongue*
 
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