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Radio is Dead (and not just AM)

As I've said before, and as my parents used to tell me when I needed to learn the facts: look it up. I haven't made ridiculous claims that have no basis in reality; you have. The burden of proof is on you.

You're the one saying radio attempted to "kill off digital." It's clearly documented that radio companies have been involved in digital technologies for 30 years. I've already given you very clear and accepted examples of how. The onus is on you to show where my documented examples are wrong.
 
Oh good grief... no, it's not, because it was in all of the trades as it was happening. It was championed in the trades as it was happening. Look it up, you'll find it all right there.
 
The industry fought XM every step of the way,

What broadcasters fought was allowing the satellite providers to originate local programming using their sets of terrestrial boosters / repeaters to do so. It was argued that satellite should be a national service and not a new band for local service controlled by one or two companies.

The satellite companies wanted to sneak local service in taking advantage of the need to fill in shadow areas that satellites could not cover.

and XM only partnered with Clear Channel because Clear Channel was demanding that the FCC force it on them, and XM caved before it came to that!

That's not so. Clear, HBC, Radio One, Salem and others "partnered" with XM to provide investment capital and content which XM could not do on its own at the launch. For example, the 5 "at launch" Spanish language channels were provided by HBC because XM had no ability and not staff to program this on its own.

They didn't "believe in XM," they wanted to force their will on another company because they saw it as a threat! The entire industry did!

What was seen as a sneak play and a threat was the plan by XM to do local programming when the satellite spectrum had been authorized for a national service.

Again, it's all right there in the press; you can look it up.

Yes, it is there but you read it wrong.
 
Oh good grief... no, it's not, because it was in all of the trades as it was happening. It was championed in the trades as it was happening. Look it up, you'll find it all right there.

What broadcasters opposed was the creation of new bands for local service.

This took two forms:

1. Use of satellite terrestrial repeaters to create local stations on a new band.
2. Creation of a DAB band in the fashion of the British system.

I already discussed the first one. As to DAB, all stations would have the same coverage, converting the 250 watt daytimer and the full power Class C FM into equal facilities. This would have destroyed billions and billions of dollars in owner equity, and was, of course, opposed by the industry.

Much of the data used in the arguments against these new local bands related to the historical fact that half of all radio stations have not been profitable and adding more channels would make things even worse.
 
KEE-rist! All I was doing was posting my experience driving a common route which used to be loaded with radio signals and isn't any longer (at least in my car).

Keywords: "in my car".

Your experience is contrary to that of myself in a half dozen vehicles over the last decade that I have been driving to my home in Prescot (via the 10 / 11/ 17 / 60) from the LA area. And it is contrary to the experiences of all my colleagues who "commute" with certain frequency from LA to Phoenix.
 
No, it really doesn't. All one has to do is point to the explosive growth of digital and the complete and total collapse of the radio industry in the past eighteen years,

What does that have to do with Mr. Tuna's experience trying to listen to OTA radio on a drive from Phoenix to Baldwin Park?

You have managed to get your quirky and undocumented agenda into a discussion of what radio signals you can hear in Quartzite.
 
You're sitting in front of a computer with Internet access that can pull up the stories in the trades that I'm referring to in less than a minute, and you claim that asking me to do it for you isn't asking for much? Quit being lazy and go do a simple search. This isn't rocket science.
 
You're sitting in front of a computer with Internet access that can pull up the stories in the trades that I'm referring to in less than a minute, and you claim that asking me to do it for you isn't asking for much? Quit being lazy and go do a simple search. This isn't rocket science.


If you want to change my mind, you need to show me proof. If you don't, then I don't care what you say.
 
I don't need to do anything, and if you don't want to educate yourself, I don't care that you choose to remain ignorant. That doesn't change the fact that you're still being willfully ignorant.
 
That you don't know the history and the facts which are not my opinion but actual events that took place within the last decade means otherwise.
 
That you don't know the history and the facts which are not my opinion but actual events that took place within the last decade means otherwise.

But you haven't given any actual events in this thread. But once again, you're trying to convince me of something, and doing a bad job. That's not my fault.
 
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dead

I have to presume that landtuna intended this defintion to apply:
'lacking in commercial activity, commercially idle or unproductive'.

The aforementioned $20B in revenue, near record levels for the insutry belies this.

I think it's been well established that technical issues with his radio were the reason for the spotty coverage. It did engender a reasonably good discussion until a poster, who I won't name veered the thread off course.
 
I have to agree that the problem with the original poster's AM reception would have been the radio. The last car radio I had (before it decided to die on me) had great FM, awful AM reception. Mediocre sound, and it would pick up some of the car's internally generated RFI in places.

I could sometimes get just as good reception with my Superadio sitting inside the car next to me -- even though a car is similar to a faraday cage on wheels, with windows.

I know there are some AM car radios that are good. The old school ones in the 60's and 70's were famous performers usually. But I'm not so certain about the newer ones.
 
That you don't know the history and the facts which are not my opinion but actual events that took place within the last decade means otherwise.

There is no such history, you have presented no supporting facts so basically all you have inserted into a totally unrelated argument is conjecture and opinion which is contrary to reality.
 
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