Oh, so much denial. And name-calling. This is yet another factor in the failure of the industry.
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Radio is Dead (and not just AM)
- Thread starter landtuna
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Yes, you're denying the facts we're giving you, and calling us names because you don't like being proven wrong. Another factor in the failure of your argument.
You have just been presented with two compatible views of what CBS is doing with radio: moving up in market size and focusing on markets where they have TV properties. If you'd been watching, you'd have seen that CBS has consolidated their local web activity into sites that feature all their media properties in each of their markets.
CBS is not pulling out of radio. They are expanding.
But facts don't seem to trouble you. For those who don't read the Miami forum, I'll mention another case of Josh's ignorance of facts:
In discussing the CBS Miami acquisitions, he referenced Beasley's WPOW which he said had declined severely... what today we'd call "tanked"... after they took EDM music off in 1999. Yet a comparison of Spring of the year before, 1998 with EDM and Spring of the year after, without EDM, shows the station rose nearly 10%. So Josh's statement about WPOW having self-destructed was totally false. Of course, after that fact was posted, Josh quit commenting about the Miami trade and WPOW.
A troll usually says something outrageous, but based on actual facts. In this case, what we have is an absence of fact or just-plain-wrong information. That's not trolling... I think we need a name for this kind of behaviour and we need to express our outrage every time we see evidence of it.
No so fast: The electromagnetic spectrum is not as a finite as many feel. In an article in the New York Times entitled ‘Carriers Warn of Crisis in Mobile Spectrum,’ the authors interview David Reed, considered one of the architects of the Internet. Observing that idea of a spectrum divided into frequencies is an outdated one, Reed posits that saying that the nation can run out of the spectrum is like saying it will run out of color. He argues that technology now makes it possible for everyone to share the spectrum and therefore not exhaust it. Humans have put rules and limitations on the spectrum, but the spectrum itself is infinite.
I wouldn't say he has his head in an ostrich hole. Wrong animal...
Yes, let's continue the denial and name-calling, because that's mature behavior. Someone presents facts that you don't like, so you respond by attempting to shout them down. That's how adults behave, right?
There's no convincing people such as yourselves who don't want to live in reality, so here's an idea for you: when you don't like the facts I've presented, don't respond to me. Don't try to prove me wrong (because you can't), don't try to prove your superior knowledge (because you can't), don't even acknowledge me. If you can't behave any better than a bunch of kindergarteners throwing sand at each other on the playground, you're clearly not ready to interact with the rest of humanity.
There's no convincing people such as yourselves who don't want to live in reality, so here's an idea for you: when you don't like the facts I've presented, don't respond to me. Don't try to prove me wrong (because you can't), don't try to prove your superior knowledge (because you can't), don't even acknowledge me. If you can't behave any better than a bunch of kindergarteners throwing sand at each other on the playground, you're clearly not ready to interact with the rest of humanity.
Truly and honestly, you need to seek help.
You have stated that you "got out of radio" but the bitterness makes me suspect that you were fired and could not get rehired.
You appear to have built the resentment over that incident into a blind belief that you are too good for radio and that everything reported about radio is a lie because you know it is not so.
Everytime someone talk about AM, He craps all over it
Except that once again, you haven't presented any facts. A fact is something that is confirmed or proven, and so far, you haven't done so.
Truly and honestly, if you were qualified to make such an assessment, you wouldn't be wasting your time on a radio message board telling me that I need to seek help.
Wrong again. I left. There is no bitterness in my attitude, simply a desire for the truth to be told, and that accusation of simply being "bitter" is the oldest excuse traditional radio industry patriots such as your self use to shout down the people who point out the truth when you have no arguments left to make. Oh, yes; I know your tactics, David. I've been around longer than you're apparently aware, on other boards. I'm well familiarized with how you (and others like you) operate.
There is no such incident, and I have no resentment about leaving. I stand against the intentional destruction of the industry by the consolidators, yes, but that in no way reflects my own career, which was actually very enjoyable. You could not be further from reality in your assumptions about me.
Every time, huh? I'd love for you to prove that.
If that's the case (which it isn't), you have yet to prove me wrong on anything other than one mistake I made about royalties. And that was only made because, in my frustration with your other ignorant denials, I was confusing radio's long-standing agreement -- and now argument -- with the record industry to not pay performance royalties with what applied online. So congratulations on being so wrong that you got me flustered enough that I got something wrong. You're a real Internet hero.
Prove? Didn't know you knew that word. I'd love for you to prove anything.
Right. I felt the same way when I quit smoking.
Anytime I go someplace where people are smoking, I start the lecture. Just like you.
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I already have, you simply refuse to acknowledge it. Keep trolling.
Presuming that you do anything in a similar fashion to myself is aspiring to a level you have not yet achieved. Besides, as I recall, I didn't start with a lecture, I added my own observations to the assessment made in the original post. It was yourself and several others that then attempted to "lecture" me about how wrong I was.
Because you're troll who can't stand the thought of someone pointing out the reality of radio's failure. As you have proven for twelve pages now in this thread.
Simply saying something isn't proving something.
Well once again, you "recall" wrong! Go back to your post. It was an off topic rant that caught everyone else by surprise. Here's what one guy said about your rant:
Even he wanted proof, and true to form, you ignored him, just as you have throughout this thread.
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It's well-known fact what I'm saying is true... except on radio message boards where people such as yourself choose not to see it. And I've told you before that the evidence is freely available. You refuse to look it up. That's your fault, not mine.
I recall correctly. Here's exactly what the conversation began with:
And here was my response, which immediately followed:I took a trip yesterday in my Lexicon-equipped Hyundai Genesis to L.A. and back from Phoenix. A 13-hour turnaround for the purpose of retrieving a particular dog. I-10 from Phoenix metro westward to the little community of Baldwin Park, CA. Along the way I was constantly searching for anything of interest on both AM and FM (and even tried HD-2). It was an abject failure.
Phoenix, of course, has a plethora of radio stations but the only ones without static and all manner of interference are the FM's. About 50 miles west of Buckeye the last FM dies (KOOL). Their HD-2 signal was good for about half that distance.
Through Quartzsite, through Blythe and Palm Springs (and various Coachella Valley communities I got a smattering of FM's but virtually no AM's that were listenable. This is late morning on a Sunday. No HD-2's at all. Once in the vicinity of the big racetrack that used to be called Ontario the FM's began coming in again but most were subject to drop-out and fade. Now I understand the Lexicon may not be the most sensitive radio received on the planet but still, we were in the heart of a very large metro area and although I don't know the location of the various stations I was passing I have to assume there were some. 25 miles or so past Ontario I picked up KRTH very weakly but it got stronger as I headed west. It was one of the only FM's I could understand and there was nothing but buzz on the AM band. Still no HD-2's.
As I neared Baldwin Park I was searching for what once were some blowtorch AM's (remembering I could get a couple of those (KFI?) even in AZ when the weather was right - but nada. I finally picked up a very faint KFI signal but it wasn't really listenable. I thought the dial would be loaded with SoCal radio but was very surprised to hear....virtually nothing.
Just in case I tried the same searches on the way back to Phoenix thinking that perhaps the pattern of the car itself would either aid or defeat the stations I had picked up. Nope. Virtually the same identical results.
Sure glad I had my flash drive with a few albums on it. No reception problems at all.
Off-topic? Absolutely not. It was decidedly ON-topic. I was talking about the technology that's picking up the slack where the original post had pointed out that radio was failing. And it was all of two sentences, which you can hardly refer to as a "rant." You didn't even challenge me on those points. In fact, you didn't even attempt to challenge my statements until the fourth page, and the statements you challenged were the easily-proven facts that you refuse to look up. Once again, you rely on lies in attempt to prove me wrong and fail miserably.
Yep...reinventing history again. Easily proven facts that YOU can't find anywhere either. I know your source. I recognized it a few pages back. That's why you won't post it. Your "facts" come from a bunch of "corporate radio sucks" blogs. I've read them. They're all just like you.
Look...as I said, you're an ex-smoker. There's absolutely nothing I can tell you. You're convinced in your head that you're right and we're all wrong, and you'll believe that forever. Sorry about your life. Too bad it didn't work out the way you hoped. We're still having fun doing what you'd love to do. And we don't care what you say.
Look...as I said, you're an ex-smoker. There's absolutely nothing I can tell you. You're convinced in your head that you're right and we're all wrong, and you'll believe that forever. Sorry about your life. Too bad it didn't work out the way you hoped. We're still having fun doing what you'd love to do. And we don't care what you say.
Haha! Nope, wrong again! There's one source you may have recognized, but I have many more than just Jerry Del Colliano, and none of them are bloggers. But again, keep digging that hole...
If you're feeling sorry for me, it's a wasted effort, because I'm not. I'll never regret any decision that I made in regard to my radio career. As for the "we" comments, you speak for a very, very small minority who are still employed in radio and either hang on hoping for the best while riding out the worst or simply don't care what's actually happening until it happens to you. If anyone should be feeling sorry for anyone else, it's me for people like you. But I don't, because you have choices to make. One way or another, you'll be making them just as predictably as I can accurately lay them out.
Nor do I miss smoking. Not one bit. But I still go to clubs where people smoke, and I never miss the opportunity to tell people how I used to smoke. Just like you.
If you didn't miss it, you wouldn't be here. You can't fool me. There are a few other just like you here who say the exact same thing. I recognize the profile.
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