Radio Is Making History Again!

[IanMichael]

Sorry if my early post was not appropiate, maybe I was writing in a rush
since I have to get in contact with many people at the same time. And
what is happening in radio right now is making history.

As I said in my early post this morning:

Hit the road Jack, and don't you come back
no more, no more. What you say?

Yep Jack rules! Man Ray Charles you were
a prophet?

And yes there is a rumor about La Mega going ''reggaetton or christian'' since
they have a great success with Juan Luis Guerra and many singers are getting
into the christian format like Elvis Crespo, famous for ''Suavemente'', and
many others are considering put their christian songs the rythm of reggaetton.

Hey sorry but now Radio Industry is subservient to Jack, Bob, Diana, or Pauley,
yes to avoid a protest from women.

Wondering if the Hispanic Radio will follow their own version with what?
'CARLOS', 'JUAN', 'JAIME' MARIA format? Who knows maybe it is in the cookin' pot already?

And what I said about a conversation I heard in the train ''F'' coming
to the Jamaica Area in Queens is true. This group of black youths were
talking about how angry they are about P. Diddy signing and giving his
support to the ''hot'' singers of the reggaetton genre. Especially
Daddy Yankee, who is the male model for P. Diddy's clothing line.
I hope we do not see a war of minority groups because of those changes
in the music industry. This is New York City we are talking about.
And is summer,things can get ''hot''.

Hispanic audience are dissapointed with the change Latino Mix to La Kalle,
in the Univision's Forums showing they feel betrayed from Univision,
since for those who didn't like LA MEGA and AMOR formats, they had in
Latino Mix an alternative.

Now the list of postings in displeasure outnumber the postings in favor
of reggaetton. Reason, hispanics and people from Europe who live in NY,
ex:Spain they like to listen to David Bisbal, to see his songs played
in radio but they are not being served. Likewise those who like
Cristian Castro, Laura Pausini, Luis Miguel, Paulina Rubio, Chayanne,
and others...

Even threatening to write to the FCC for the explicit lyrics in the
only rhythm played in La Kalle with just few songs ''hits''.
Remember they have to filter these bunch of songs since they are too
explicit about rough sex, drugs before expanding their play list.

It's really sad to read the postings, the audience don't know how the
radio industry works and think that by protesting they will have back
their Latino Mix station back in the next days.

They are asking if CC can make a radio station for them since Univision
won't listen to them. That's why I think is the opportunity for
Carlos Alonso to create such a station. The hispanic community
those who really listen to radio today, just want to listen to the
huge variety that Hispanic Music can offer to them.

They even will appreciate if they add some soft rock, English songs that why
they can't hear the Lonely Boys's songs in the Spanish Radio Stations? But
the station must keep in mind they are targeting the Hispanic Audience it
must have the DJ's they like.

I understand today listeners cannot have the Radio Industry making a custom
made radio station for everyone of them, but think before it's too late when
making those changes of format. After all the 30-54 listeners like and will
support that station that gives them a good variety of music,
and ads that are well produced. Not noisy ads! It's just knowing how to negotiate.

It's my job to study the social effects of media in people, that's why I have
to read and listen to many people. To go and read a Spanish forum, to
go and read the English forum. To go to Europe and to watch there how
Spain is doing its thing too, to get in USA market through music. They
are coming too. Stay tuned!

Now the no speaking Spanish people in New York with CBS FM adopting
the JACK format can understand what the Spanish listeners are feeling when
they tuned into their radio to tune to one of their favorite stations and it was gone
without giving the chance to hear nothing about their DJ's and their morning show that even it was losing audience they had hope it will get better by listening to what the listeners wanted in the changes, but the audience was not taken in consideration.

This can push artists to begin to create webpages and sell and promote their
music by themselves! Even the listeners and fans will be able to buy the CD or
download their favorite song! Since major radio labels are not signing for more that one year Hispanic singers who do not guarantee a ''hit''. Wondering where
Enrique Iglesias, Ricky Martin is?

This technology "intelligence integretated" in the new equipments for radio
stations will do those repetitive tasks in the radio stations with precision and
just pay service for the maintenance.

Hope this post is appropiate and it is not deleted, thanks.

IanMichael
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by DiamondJoe on 06/04/05 07:55 PM.</FONT></P>

 

[DiamondJoe]

Perhaps I was meaning to move it, and I never got around to completing it... I do agree that we will see a Spanish version of "Variety Hits/Jack" in the near future. As to which station here would adopt it, it might be 92.3...<P ID="signature">______________


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[IanMichael]

Ok, Diamond,

You said:

"As to
which station here would adopt it, it might be 92.3..."

What do you think about Clear Channel getting back Univision FM radio
stations in New York, and making the neccessary adjustments to serve the Hispanic Community; in these day you cannot say this or that cannot
be done, since CC has the radio stations limit by law to own. But what if
there is the "surprise". If Univision and CC get in talks this could
be the radio station to be changed to "HURBAN" with a touch of what
Hispanics living in New York want, that way CC do not to sacrifice any
of their stations that are billing as people from the radio say
"pretty well"?

Just a thought!

I.M.

 

[DiamondJoe]

I like the idea of Univision and Clear Channel joining forces, vs. SBS and Infinity. Keep in mind, though, that CC does have a few Hurban stations of their own, and they could save money by just using their own formula.<P ID="signature">______________


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[IanMichael]

Cool Di,

your answer:

"I like the idea of Univision and Clear Channel joining
forces, vs. SBS and Infinity. Keep in mind, though, that CC
does have a few Hurban stations of their own, and they could
save money by just using their own formula."

>>>>>>>>>>

Now my answer:

But I think Alonso knows very well what I am talking about, and
imagine the war of the "TITANS"...you know that WCAA has the
problem with the antenna, now that Digital Radio is another thing
that Univision has in its head.."consultants and engineers" working
how to fix that and get ready for the future in this Digital thing.

I see CC coming to help them out with the Digital Antenna CC
is leasin' DRA at Conde Nast, and giving that kind of stability that
a radio sta. needs. If Univision decides to sell the shares back
to CC, I won't be surprised, if CC accept making modifications to
the "HURBAN" format even if they have to invest some additional
money, to include what the huge Hispanic and Europe listeners living
in NY want to hear and these greatful listeners you can be sure won't
forget what radio station gave them what they wanted; and they will
support whoever listen to them. So there is the challenge!

Now that will be history in New York Radio.

Remember New York is like having the "whole" world in
little "chunks"> Groups of listeners who are waiting for radio to be
fair with them when creating a playlist of songs!

And is true New York needs to embrace all those cultures that
make of the city, that great place to live.

That's what radio is about, the better the player is, gets the best
piece of the pie. I have heard too, in Lite FM their DeeJays now and
before saying one or three words in Spanish, like a practice?
Wouldn't be surprise of Lite FM adding Spanish ballads, soft rock,
to their playlist,since in Europe CC is in charge for Laura Pausini
concerts, just go to CC Europe webpage. You can read Lite FM playlist
and see one or two names, that might increase in the future

This is just starting my friend...and I like it, radio was dormant!

Now as a note apart:

Hey I prefer even to dance to the rhythm of "country music"
in case it comes to the "scene" as another surprise!

Those who would like to see a country music station, need to
show their support not just writing posts here and in other
radio message boards but by this summer dressing with those tight
jeans, boots, cowboy hats, go to Central Park and sing with
little bands and make your own poll to see how many people
start singing and dancing at the sound of country music.
Hey making parties too, with that nice"country dance moves" prefer
country dance over "perreo" sorry! The diversity in NY is immense.
Make use of it for the radio sake!

 

[davideduardo]

> Perhaps I was meaning to move it, and I never got around to
> completing it... I do agree that we will see a Spanish
> version of "Variety Hits/Jack" in the near future. As to
> which station here would adopt it, it might be 92.3...

Such stations exist for Mexican audiences, such as Univision's 5-year-old Recuerdo in LA which plays the best non-current songs of the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's, and, CC's recent copy, Preciosa, which also does the same format. Both are a mix of different genres and styles. This approach parallels the generalist programming of most radio stations in rural Mexico where most immigrants are from.

However, Hispanics from the Caribbean have had specialized formats since the 60's, and prefer single styles of music on single stations. This audience is not used to having a mix of styles, unless it is in a youth oriented format that only plays current hits and crosses styles.

For one, there is very little comment among Hispanics about lack of variety or "cookie cutter radio" susch as is prevelent in general market radio.

 

[davideduardo]

> Now my answer:
>
> But I think Alonso knows very well what I am talking about,
> and
> imagine the war of the "TITANS"...you know that WCAA has the
>
> problem with the antenna,

WCAA has no antenna problem. It is simply licensed to a lower power than most of the other NYC Class B FMs, but has no problem.


> now that Digital Radio is another
> thing
> that Univision has in its head.."consultants and engineers"
> working
> how to fix that and get ready for the future in this Digital
> thing.

WCAA can go HD on its own, thank you. It certainly does not need CCU to help, as, at one point, Univision had more HD stations on the air than CCU early in the game. Many of the UVN stations are on with HD, such as KLVE and KSCA in LA, and both were no-ousider installs and are working perfectly... even some of the UVN AMs are now IBOC, too. KTNQ was the first IBOC AM in LA, in fact.
>
> I see CC coming to help them out with the Digital Antenna CC
>
> is leasin' DRA at Conde Nast, and giving that kind of
> stability that
> a radio sta. needs.

This is a "master antenna" and not a "we need help antenna." The ESB has no IBOC antenna as yet, I believe. Stations going HD are using a separate site, leasing ports on the master antenna. CCU has nothing to do with installing or operating the individual stations.

> If Univision decides to sell the shares
> back
> to CC, I won't be surprised,

By decision of both the FCC and DOJ, Clear can not buy or hold any shares in Univsion.

> if CC accept making
> modifications to
> the "HURBAN" format even if they have to invest some
> additional
> money, to include what the huge Hispanic and Europe
> listeners living
> in NY want to hear and these greatful listeners you can be
> sure won't
> forget what radio station gave them what they wanted; and
> they will
> support whoever listen to them. So there is the challenge!

Most of the listeners in NY are from just a handful of countries, which are PR, DR, Colombia, Ecuador and Mexico. Outside of that group, no other country as even 5% of the population and could not be directly served by a specific format aimed just at that group.

For example, all Central American is only 6.8% of the Hispanic populaiton, and if you take out the Colombians and Ecuadorians, there are only 4% of the total Hispanic population that are form other countries. And Spaniards? 0.6%.

On the other hand, Puerto Ricans and Newyoricans are 50% of the population.

> Remember New York is like having the "whole" world in
> little "chunks"> Groups of listeners who are waiting for
> radio to be
> fair with them when creating a playlist of songs!

No, large groups are waiting. More than that, there are music forms that are truly multi-national that appeal to portions of each group, such as salsa, ballads and reggaetón. On the other hand, there are kinds of music that are limited to only small groups of people within a particular national group, like vallenato, merengue, pasillos, tangos, rancheras.
>
> And is true New York needs to embrace all those cultures
> that
> make of the city, that great place to live.

Formula for a bad radio staitons: mix a bunch of types of music only small groups like and you get one station no one likes.
>
> That's what radio is about, the better the player is, gets
> the best
> piece of the pie. I have heard too, in Lite FM their
> DeeJays now and
> before saying one or three words in Spanish, like a
> practice?
> Wouldn't be surprise of Lite FM adding Spanish ballads, soft
> rock,
> to their playlist,since in Europe CC is in charge for Laura
> Pausini
> concerts, just go to CC Europe webpage. You can read Lite
> FM playlist
> and see one or two names, that might increase in the future

I can think of nothing more improbable. CCU is selling its entertainment division, and it has nothing to do with the radio division. And Lite is the top billing station in the US. They are hardly going to put Spanish songs on, knowing that they will offend 90% of thier listeners.

Have you ever worked at a commercial radio station? Your post indicates a singular lack of knowledge of how radio works and responds to listener preferences, so I ask the question in the hopes that others here can also help show you you are theorizing about the impossible and are bing quite Quixotic about it as well.

 

[davideduardo]

>
> And yes there is a rumor about La Mega going ''reggaetton or
> christian'' since
> they have a great success with Juan Luis Guerra and many
> singers are getting
> into the christian format like Elvis Crespo, famous for
> ''Suavemente'', and
> many others are considering put their christian songs the
> rythm of reggaetton.

I trust you are stating this in jest, right? The chances of this actually happening are in the high negative number range.
>
> Wondering if the Hispanic Radio will follow their own
> version with what?
> 'CARLOS', 'JUAN', 'JAIME' MARIA format? Who knows maybe it
> is in the cookin' pot already?

The "Jack" format has existed for years. It is simply a multi-decade, multi-style format aimed at people who grew up on generalist, small market radio.
>
> Hispanic audience are dissapointed with the change Latino
> Mix to La Kalle,

Very few are. the level of complaints is highly limited. There is, however, a huge groundswell of support for Kalle never seen before.

> in the Univision's Forums showing they feel betrayed from
> Univision,
> since for those who didn't like LA MEGA and AMOR formats,
> they had in
> Latino Mix an alternative.

I can't see how. 99% of the Latino Mix songs wer eplayed on either Amor or WSKQ. It was simply a subset of both, not a unique format. 10 complaints in a forum do not make a real protest.
>
> Now the list of postings in displeasure outnumber the
> postings in favor
> of reggaetton. Reason, hispanics and people from Europe who
> live in NY,
> ex:Spain they like to listen to David Bisbal, to see his
> songs played
> in radio but they are not being served.

You man the 0.6% of NY Hispanics from Spain? All 21 thousand of them? Spaniards do not agree on a common format even in Spain, so none of them would agree on one in the US. In fact, the lists of cadena 100 and Cuarenta Principales are full of reggaetón these days, meaning Spanish youth is in love with reggaetón, as aare young folks from Chile, Argentina, Peru, Puerto Rico, Mexico, etc.

> Likewise those who
> like
> Cristian Castro, Laura Pausini, Luis Miguel, Paulina Rubio,
> Chayanne,
> and others...

And WPAT is full of this stuff. Knock yourslef out.

> Even threatening to write to the FCC for the explicit lyrics
> in the
> only rhythm played in La Kalle with just few songs ''hits''.

The songs speak street language, and most are not dirty.
>
> Remember they have to filter these bunch of songs since they
> are too
> explicit about rough sex, drugs before expanding their play
> list.

You have not listened to much reggaetón. Drug references are very unusual, and I hear no true "rough sex" references.
>
> It's really sad to read the postings, the audience don't
> know how the
> radio industry works and think that by protesting they will
> have back
> their Latino Mix station back in the next days.

Since the forum is reached by entering Latino Mix, no La Kalle listener would ever think of finding it. So there is mostly only one point of view. And 20 postings are not indicitive of anything.
>
> They are asking if CC can make a radio station for them
> since Univision
> won't listen to them. That's why I think is the opportunity
> for
> Carlos Alonso to create such a station.

His name is Alfredo, and he would have to show how a new stations would bill over $25 million to justify the change from any existing and successful CCU station. Since even WPAT does not do that, this is unlikely.

> The hispanic
> community
> those who really listen to radio today, just want to listen
> to the
> huge variety that Hispanic Music can offer to them.

And, to the extent that 3 FMs can serve them all, they are getting more variety today than they had two weeks ago.

> I understand today listeners cannot have the Radio Industry
> making a custom
> made radio station for everyone of them, but think before
> it's too late when
> making those changes of format. After all the 30-54
> listeners like and will
> support that station that gives them a good variety of
> music,

Which 90% of them are presently getting. There is no other mass appeal format appropriate for NY.

> and ads that are well produced. Not noisy ads! It's just
> knowing how to negotiate.

Ads are, generally, produced by ad agencies, not the station. You can hardly control what a client asks for.
>
> It's my job to study the social effects of media in people,
> that's why I have
> to read and listen to many people. To go and read a Spanish
> forum, to
> go and read the English forum. To go to Europe and to watch
> there how
> Spain is doing its thing too, to get in USA market through
> music. They
> are coming too. Stay tuned!

Agian, for the 0.6% of Hispanics in NY who are from europe? Get real, please.
>
> Now the no speaking Spanish people in New York with CBS FM
> adopting
> the JACK format can understand what the Spanish listeners
> are feeling when
> they tuned into their radio to tune to one of their favorite
> stations and it was gone
> without giving the chance to hear nothing about their DJ's
> and their morning show that even it was losing audience they
> had hope it will get better by listening to what the
> listeners wanted in the changes, but the audience was not
> taken in consideration.

And NYPD Blue is no longer on the TV. Things change when better things come around. And not all things that are tried work.

 

[davideduardo]

Re: HD (IBOC) on NY FM

>
> I see CC coming to help them out with the Digital Antenna CC
>
> is leasin' DRA at Conde Nast, and giving that kind of
> stability that
> a radio sta. needs.

An update. The HD (IBOC) FM master antenna is currently being tested, and should be ready for use soon. Stations using the analog FM master antenna can also access ports on the HD antenna.

WCAA is HD ready, and waiting for the antenna to be accessable by the ESB tennants. It will not be necessary to ask CCU for help, as UVN radio has among the best engineers and technical plants in the industry.