A follow-up to a previous post, which stations in Detroit need to go and why?
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Radio stations you'd like to see go in Detroit
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I'm on the fence about 93.9. The ratings are PATHETIC for the huge signal they've got. Considering the great job 89x is doing, especially in their target demo, Bell could stand to better target Detroit (like x does) and make a bit more money than they probably are with The River. My theory as to why they're alive: The station is profitable with it's Windsor business alone (over a 4 share in Windsor), so it's Detroit billing is just an added bonus. Plus, it serves as a buffer in case someone wants to launch a "Radio" format such as in Philly or Boston to attack 89x. If this is not the case, I think Bell could do much better considering their signal.
Don't get me wrong, I like the River, but this is all from a business standpoint. I guess if I wanted any station gone, I'd say Amp needs to go. Too many top 40s (or top 40 leaners) and Amp easily has the most annoying/repetitive of all of them.
chrocket87 said:I'm on the fence about 93.9. The ratings are PATHETIC for the huge signal they've got. Considering the great job 89x is doing, especially in their target demo, Bell could stand to better target Detroit (like x does) and make a bit more money than they probably are with The River. My theory as to why they're alive: The station is profitable with it's Windsor business alone (over a 4 share in Windsor), so it's Detroit billing is just an added bonus. Plus, it serves as a buffer in case someone wants to launch a "Radio" format such as in Philly or Boston to attack 89x. If this is not the case, I think Bell could do much better considering their signal.
I agree. The River needs to go, primarily because of the abysmal ratings they've racked up for the ,most part. You would think that, as an AAA station, they would dive deeper into their play list, but every time I tune in-- either by accident or because I don't feel like hearing the likes of Drake and Rihanna every other 10-15 minutes-- they virtually play the same music you'd hear on WDVD, or even Fresh 100 (and that's even a stretch). And for them to have a signal THAT WIDE on the 93.9 frequency, and have horrible ratings, tells me (at least) that this format isn't working. Come to think of it, they tried this approach before.....and it didn't work.....
Doug-FM needs to go as well, primarily because of the oversaturation in the market for Classic Rock. Do we REALLY need (on a technical scale) five different Classic Rock stations (the other four being CSX, DTW, The Riff, and WMGC-FM, to a certain extent) that plays the same thing, sometimes 10 minutes apart from each other? Do we really need a Jack-FM station that hasn't really caught on considering the fact that WOMC pretty much dominates the Variety/Oldies format (or whatever format they run)? I mean, to be honest, it should've been pulled years ago (speaking as a disgruntled DRQ fan who's still hurt by the abrupt switch back in '05), but to see it last that long and still do mediocre in the ratings have to send some type of message to Cumulus.
This is gonna shock a lot of you (because I myself prefer a Rhythmic CHR station take over at DRQ), but it's time for a Country station to challenge YCD. Long overdue for one, don't know why nobody has taken the initiative to do so, but it has to happen. Not FM news (because obviously it's been proven that it won't work, just ask New York and Chicago), not a Rhythmic (although that hurts me to say it), but COUNTRY.
93.1 Doug fm play all 80's and 90's music that would be great.
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CIDR just doesn't seem to have any direction. Flip it already! I'd go old school/classic urban: R&B from the late 70's (post disco) to 1993, when hip-hop started to take over and ruin R&B. Just my Santa's list, that's all.
Has anyone seen the ratings for June? I'm pretty sure CIDR is at the bottom of the list (as it's always been); if that's not an indication that it gotta go then I don't know what is. I get WKQL here in Taylor; now THAT'S how a AAA station is supposed to sound.
Ex-Act-Ly! AAA listeners generally want to hear music you can't hear everywhere else and that's the majority of WQKL's playlist. CIDR's playlist is full of things you can hear everywhere else and while that's bringing in some casual listeners, they're leaving once that song you can hear on Doug or Fresh is over. Their ratings are wayyyy too low for a 68,000 watt stick.MattHollidaye OnAir said:I get WKQL here in Taylor; now THAT'S how a AAA station is supposed to sound.
Oh yeah, play "Drops of Jupiter" some more. I swear I still hear this on the River just as often as I hear currents on Amp.
Can't flip to that format. CanCon rules would prohibit something like that because there isn't enough Canadian music to please the CRTC. I believe a station in Toronto tried that back in 2000, and flipped back to dance (which they've done twice before).jt1120 said:CIDR just doesn't seem to have any direction. Flip it already! I'd go old school/classic urban: R&B from the late 70's (post disco) to 1993, when hip-hop started to take over and ruin R&B. Just my Santa's list, that's all.
98.7 AMP radio. I want a WWJ Simulcast!
I can't think of any radio stations in Detroit that I hate to the extent that I'd want the for
I'd like to see 103.5 WMUZ in its current incarnation get trashed and undergo a major overhaul. It is quite possibly the most boring Christian station I have ever heard. I'd like to see WMUZ become music-intensive like K-Love or Smile FM (neither of which has full-market coverage anyway, and aren't local besides), and leave the teaching and weekend infomercials to AM 560.
I don't think AMP Radio is going anywhere soon... word is their ratings are trending upward with Buck & Coop in the mornings, and I DON'T want to see Channel 955 have the CHR market all to itself (though I'd prefer the competing CHR not have replaced V98.7). Personally I would like to see 98.7 revert to the V98.7 branding, possibly as a Smooth AC along the lines of CBS' KTWV in L.A. ... Soft Rock 105.1's adding more CHR hits to their playlist and dumping some of their softer titles has reopened the hole in Motown for a TRULY soft music station. But I'd welcome a WWJ simulcast too, particularly since WWJ's nighttime signal is atrocious in my neck of the woods because of their directional pattern.
Didn't 93.9 try an Urban Oldies format for a couple of months around 20 years ago? I never heard it on the air but have heard it was called "I-94."
I'd like to see 103.5 WMUZ in its current incarnation get trashed and undergo a major overhaul. It is quite possibly the most boring Christian station I have ever heard. I'd like to see WMUZ become music-intensive like K-Love or Smile FM (neither of which has full-market coverage anyway, and aren't local besides), and leave the teaching and weekend infomercials to AM 560.
I don't think AMP Radio is going anywhere soon... word is their ratings are trending upward with Buck & Coop in the mornings, and I DON'T want to see Channel 955 have the CHR market all to itself (though I'd prefer the competing CHR not have replaced V98.7). Personally I would like to see 98.7 revert to the V98.7 branding, possibly as a Smooth AC along the lines of CBS' KTWV in L.A. ... Soft Rock 105.1's adding more CHR hits to their playlist and dumping some of their softer titles has reopened the hole in Motown for a TRULY soft music station. But I'd welcome a WWJ simulcast too, particularly since WWJ's nighttime signal is atrocious in my neck of the woods because of their directional pattern.
Didn't 93.9 try an Urban Oldies format for a couple of months around 20 years ago? I never heard it on the air but have heard it was called "I-94."
Chris I can't agree with more about Amp radio when Channel 95.5 had the market to them self's that station was a piece of shit!ChrisInMI said:I can't think of any radio stations in Detroit that I hate to the extent that I'd want the for
I'd like to see 103.5 WMUZ in its current incarnation get trashed and undergo a major overhaul. It is quite possibly the most boring Christian station I have ever heard. I'd like to see WMUZ become music-intensive like K-Love or Smile FM (neither of which has full-market coverage anyway, and aren't local besides), and leave the teaching and weekend infomercials to AM 560.
I don't think AMP Radio is going anywhere soon... word is their ratings are trending upward with Buck & Coop in the mornings, and I DON'T want to see Channel 955 have the CHR market all to itself (though I'd prefer the competing CHR not have replaced V98.7). Personally I would like to see 98.7 revert to the V98.7 branding, possibly as a Smooth AC along the lines of CBS' KTWV in L.A. ... Soft Rock 105.1's adding more CHR hits to their playlist and dumping some of their softer titles has reopened the hole in Motown for a TRULY soft music station. But I'd welcome a WWJ simulcast too, particularly since WWJ's nighttime signal is atrocious in my neck of the woods because of their directional pattern.
Didn't 93.9 try an Urban Oldies format for a couple of months around 20 years ago? I never heard it on the air but have heard it was called "I-94."
Now 95.5 actually has to work for there money awwwwwwww so sad NOT!
Matt8650 said:My vote is what is being passed off as a Sports station on 1130 am. Almost all syndication and a total lack of care put into it. That had to be a new low when they didn't report in the June book.
On a technical aspect, they did (they came in at a 0.5 rating); but with abysmal ratings like that, they might as well not have reported in the latest ratings. Something has got to be done with that station; they have NOTHING compared to WXYT-FM (which pretty much dominated the sports ratings since its creation), and that's what really hurts them the most, among other things. A format change is all but needed desperately; time for The Fan to take a bow and say good-bye, start over, and launch something else.
Maybe a music format on AM other than Gospel.....although that's a long stretch....
steve82655 said:93.1 Doug fm play all 80's and 90's music that would be great.
They could re-brand it as 'Rewind 93.1' This would be similar to 'Rewind 103.5/104.3' in the Columbus, OH market.
FM News in New York and Chicago failed because they weren't programmed that well, never really gained momentum, and also, the two stations were up against CBS Radio giants in WINS,WCBS, and WBBM. If CBS Radio wanted to, they could take WWJ to FM because they have the reputation, the commitment to local news, and they have done well on AM for years. Also, Merlin is not really a News programmer. However, with AMP finally passing 95.5 recently, this means all their FM'S have great ratings and they are doing well in the cume's too, and WWJ is getting good ratings, so there doesn't seem to be a need to do that at the moment.
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