Has anyone tried out the Radiosphy HD Radio? Wasn't it supported by the HD Cartel, or am I mistaken. I am curious on the performance, especially since it is transportable.
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Radiosophy Radio
- Thread starter johneb2johneb2
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Glad that you asked.
Mine arrived last week, and although I've never truly tested any other of the others,
( Unless you consider testing The Boston Acoustics one inside of a mall Radio Shack as a test, LOL)
I'll have to say that Radiosophy HD is a superior radio, and with a cost/benefit analysis of the others out there, I dare say it's the best for the money at 269.00.
I suggest buying the extended plan to be eligable for upgrades via the internet with a USB cable!
The AM and FM external antennas are standard, and a switch for the internal and extended antennas, but if you look at the connection line in the back, you'll see that this radio is special.Stereo Headphone Mini Jack,Optical Out (Toslink™ Digital Audio) AUX Line Out (Stereo RCA Out),
I'm still exploring the options it has.
As extras, you can purchase an auto power adapter, and a mobile cassette adapter for listening in the car and elsewhere.
The reception is an issue if you don't live very close to a city, before you can pull in the HD-2 signal, you have to pull in the main FM broadcast in HD.
I live 25 miles west of Boston, and the External dipole antenna is a must, and it may take time to position it just right, and a little research of where the stations towers are located will help with that.
Mine arrived last week, and although I've never truly tested any other of the others,
( Unless you consider testing The Boston Acoustics one inside of a mall Radio Shack as a test, LOL)
I'll have to say that Radiosophy HD is a superior radio, and with a cost/benefit analysis of the others out there, I dare say it's the best for the money at 269.00.
I suggest buying the extended plan to be eligable for upgrades via the internet with a USB cable!
The AM and FM external antennas are standard, and a switch for the internal and extended antennas, but if you look at the connection line in the back, you'll see that this radio is special.Stereo Headphone Mini Jack,Optical Out (Toslink™ Digital Audio) AUX Line Out (Stereo RCA Out),
I'm still exploring the options it has.
As extras, you can purchase an auto power adapter, and a mobile cassette adapter for listening in the car and elsewhere.
The reception is an issue if you don't live very close to a city, before you can pull in the HD-2 signal, you have to pull in the main FM broadcast in HD.
I live 25 miles west of Boston, and the External dipole antenna is a must, and it may take time to position it just right, and a little research of where the stations towers are located will help with that.
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IBOCRocks
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johneb2johneb2 said:Has anyone tried out the Radiosphy HD Radio? Wasn't it supported by the HD Cartel, or am I mistaken. I am curious on the performance, especially since it is transportable.
You are mistaken. There's no HD Cartel.
IBOCRocks wrote:
There is an HD cartel and anyone who doesn't believe that there is hasn't taken the time to investigate iBiQuity's long and colorful history and the deals they made early on to squash alternative technology. Can you even find this stuff? I don't know. Maybe an investigation of the patents would indicate some things that are not widely known. Who knows? Certainly not me.
But when in doubt, follow the money. The money always tells us what is important and what isn't. Draw your own conclusions.
You are mistaken. There's no HD Cartel.
There is an HD cartel and anyone who doesn't believe that there is hasn't taken the time to investigate iBiQuity's long and colorful history and the deals they made early on to squash alternative technology. Can you even find this stuff? I don't know. Maybe an investigation of the patents would indicate some things that are not widely known. Who knows? Certainly not me.
But when in doubt, follow the money. The money always tells us what is important and what isn't. Draw your own conclusions.
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IBOCRocks
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Cal Stymes said:Who knows? Certainly not me.
Probably the only words that I find that contain the absolute truth. Your opinions about there being a "Cartel" is not based in any truth, simply your opinion.
It's one thing to say "I believe there is a Cartel" it's quite another to state it as fact. Until proven otherwise the only fact is that it isn't a Cartel.
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Mike Walker
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Far from squashing alternative technology, if you really knew Ibiquity's history, you'd know that they have INCORPORATED much of the formerly competing technology. Over a decade and a half many entered the fray...including huge names like Lucent, USADR (USA Digital Radio) and others. Ibiquity was, by default and by acquisition, "last man standing".
IBOCRocks objected:
Whether or not you believe there is a cartel (defined by Webster as "a combination of independent commercial or industrial enterprises designed to limit competition or fix prices") or you think I know what I am talking about, is irrelevant. There IS a cartel, and the large radio companies are part of it.
And Mike Walker elaborated:
Actually, I do know this, rather well in fact. But some of that technology was removed from the competition in exchange for "future" compensation.
Ibiquity IS USA Digital Radio regrouped and refinanced. It is going to cost them big time if (and now with the FCC approval more like "when") they get the IPO done, but the price they had to pay in order to BE the "last man standing" was enormous. It was perhaps partially by acquisition, but certainly not by default!
Follow the money.
Your opinions about there being a "Cartel" is not based in any truth, simply your opinion.
It's one thing to say "I believe there is a Cartel" it's quite another to state it as fact. Until proven otherwise the only fact is that it isn't a Cartel.
Whether or not you believe there is a cartel (defined by Webster as "a combination of independent commercial or industrial enterprises designed to limit competition or fix prices") or you think I know what I am talking about, is irrelevant. There IS a cartel, and the large radio companies are part of it.
And Mike Walker elaborated:
Far from squashing alternative technology, if you really knew Ibiquity's history, you'd know that they have INCORPORATED much of the formerly competing technology.
Actually, I do know this, rather well in fact. But some of that technology was removed from the competition in exchange for "future" compensation.
Over a decade and a half many entered the fray... including huge names like Lucent, USADR (USA Digital Radio) and others. Ibiquity was, by default and by acquisition, "last man standing".
Ibiquity IS USA Digital Radio regrouped and refinanced. It is going to cost them big time if (and now with the FCC approval more like "when") they get the IPO done, but the price they had to pay in order to BE the "last man standing" was enormous. It was perhaps partially by acquisition, but certainly not by default!
Follow the money.
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IBOCRocks
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Cal Stymes opined:
Actually whether you believe there IS a cartel is irrelevant. There isn't one. No matter how many times you say that it's true, it's not.
But hey, no worries. I lose no sleep over it. I just seem to be one of the few here that doesn't believe that simply stating something makes it true.
Cal Stymes said:Whether or not you believe there is a cartel (defined by Webster as "a combination of independent commercial or industrial enterprises designed to limit competition or fix prices") or you think I know what I am talking about, is irrelevant. There IS a cartel, and the large radio companies are part of it.
And Mike Walker elaborated:
Far from squashing alternative technology, if you really knew Ibiquity's history, you'd know that they have INCORPORATED much of the formerly competing technology.
Actually, I do know this, rather well in fact. But some of that technology was removed from the competition in exchange for "future" compensation.
Over a decade and a half many entered the fray... including huge names like Lucent, USADR (USA Digital Radio) and others. Ibiquity was, by default and by acquisition, "last man standing".
Ibiquity IS USA Digital Radio regrouped and refinanced. It is going to cost them big time if (and now with the FCC approval more like "when") they get the IPO done, but the price they had to pay in order to BE the "last man standing" was enormous. It was perhaps partially by acquisition, but certainly not by default!
Follow the money.
Actually whether you believe there IS a cartel is irrelevant. There isn't one. No matter how many times you say that it's true, it's not.
But hey, no worries. I lose no sleep over it. I just seem to be one of the few here that doesn't believe that simply stating something makes it true.
Links to the info about the HD Radio cartel:
http://news.com.com/Broadcast+giants+join+forces+on+HD+radio/2100-1038_3-5984476.html
The HD Radio cartel's website:
http://www.hdradioalliance.com/index.php
Definitions of cartel:
"2. a coalition of political or special-interest groups having a common cause, as to encourage the passage of a certain law."
(Random House Unabridged Dictionary, Copyright © 1997, by Random House, Inc., on Infoplease.)
"A group of parties, factions, or nations united in a common cause;"
(From www.answers.com)
"2 : a combination of independent commercial or industrial enterprises designed to limit competition or fix prices"
(From http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/cartel)
Other links to HD Radio cartel:
www.orbitcast.com/archives/hd-radio-to-crash-and-burn.html
insidemusicmedia.blogspot.com/2006/11/dead-technology-walking.html
insidemusicmedia.blogspot.com/2007/03/hd-radio-is-scaring-me.html
Yes, IBOCrocks, there is indeed an HD Radio cartel!
Peter Ferrara is it's President.
Another HD Radio link:
http://feedback.pdxradio.com/messages/5/239145.html?1172876996
http://news.com.com/Broadcast+giants+join+forces+on+HD+radio/2100-1038_3-5984476.html
The HD Radio cartel's website:
http://www.hdradioalliance.com/index.php
Definitions of cartel:
"2. a coalition of political or special-interest groups having a common cause, as to encourage the passage of a certain law."
(Random House Unabridged Dictionary, Copyright © 1997, by Random House, Inc., on Infoplease.)
"A group of parties, factions, or nations united in a common cause;"
(From www.answers.com)
"2 : a combination of independent commercial or industrial enterprises designed to limit competition or fix prices"
(From http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/cartel)
Other links to HD Radio cartel:
www.orbitcast.com/archives/hd-radio-to-crash-and-burn.html
insidemusicmedia.blogspot.com/2006/11/dead-technology-walking.html
insidemusicmedia.blogspot.com/2007/03/hd-radio-is-scaring-me.html
Yes, IBOCrocks, there is indeed an HD Radio cartel!
Peter Ferrara is it's President.
Another HD Radio link:
http://feedback.pdxradio.com/messages/5/239145.html?1172876996
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IBOCRocks
Guest
SUPERCASTER said:Links to the info about the HD Radio cartel:
http://news.com.com/Broadcast+giants+join+forces+on+HD+radio/2100-1038_3-5984476.html
The HD Radio cartel's website:
http://www.hdradioalliance.com/index.php
Definitions of cartel:
"2. a coalition of political or special-interest groups having a common cause, as to encourage the passage of a certain law."
(Random House Unabridged Dictionary, Copyright © 1997, by Random House, Inc., on Infoplease.)
"A group of parties, factions, or nations united in a common cause;"
(From www.answers.com)
"2 : a combination of independent commercial or industrial enterprises designed to limit competition or fix prices"
(From http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/cartel)
Other links to HD Radio cartel:
www.orbitcast.com/archives/hd-radio-to-crash-and-burn.html
insidemusicmedia.blogspot.com/2006/11/dead-technology-walking.html
insidemusicmedia.blogspot.com/2007/03/hd-radio-is-scaring-me.html
Yes, IBOCrocks, there is indeed an HD Radio cartel!
Peter Ferrara is it's President.
Another HD Radio link:
http://feedback.pdxradio.com/messages/5/239145.html?1172876996
No, Rich, in YOUR OPINION there is a radio cartel. Every one of your links points to a blog or comment of an HD detractor calling it a cartel. Nobody with any authority has yet to say so.
So, there is not a cartel. It is simply the opinion of a few that it is.
Again, saying that something is something does not make it true.
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IBOCRocks
Guest
IBOCRocks said:
"HD Radio on the Offense"
"IBiquity's monopoly on this closed-source system is a catastrophe, says Michael Bracy, a lobbyist for the Future of Music Coalition, whose goal is diversity on the airwaves and higher pay for artists."
http://www.eastbayexpress.com/2007-03-07/music/hd-radio-on-the-offense
cartel = monopoly
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IBOCRocks
Guest
PocketRadio said:IBOCRocks said:
"HD Radio on the Offense"
"IBiquity's monopoly on this closed-source system is a catastrophe, says Michael Bracy, a lobbyist for the Future of Music Coalition, whose goal is diversity on the airwaves and higher pay for artists."
http://www.eastbayexpress.com/2007-03-07/music/hd-radio-on-the-offense
cartel = monopoly
Michael Bracy's opinions != Fact
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dbdigital
Guest
Although the subject was the satcaster merger, I really thought broadcaster Gary West's remarks quoted in today's LA Radio column on the NAB's dishonesty was right on target regarding HD Radio and the monopoly that the HD-Radio cartel is creating.
Quoting a portion of Gary's remarks:
"Was that KIIS/fm or any other fm station in the country is now 3 stations? Yup! Clear Channel now has about 3,600 stations to happily program plus analog.
You get a license for one, plus three extra to boot. It's an amazing time for broadcasters and a dream. How can you possibly argue monopoly? The combined Satellite services have about 300 channels. The terrestrial guys just a got [total] of around 25,000 new channels across the country."
It's nice to see that another industry professional recognizes that HD-Radio is giving media conglomerates free extra "stations" which, in turn, gives the cartel additional power over the public airwaves.
db
Quoting a portion of Gary's remarks:
"Was that KIIS/fm or any other fm station in the country is now 3 stations? Yup! Clear Channel now has about 3,600 stations to happily program plus analog.
You get a license for one, plus three extra to boot. It's an amazing time for broadcasters and a dream. How can you possibly argue monopoly? The combined Satellite services have about 300 channels. The terrestrial guys just a got [total] of around 25,000 new channels across the country."
It's nice to see that another industry professional recognizes that HD-Radio is giving media conglomerates free extra "stations" which, in turn, gives the cartel additional power over the public airwaves.
db
Could you post a link to that - thanks...
dbdigital said:Although the subject was the satcaster merger, I really thought broadcaster Gary West's remarks quoted in today's LA Radio column on the NAB's dishonesty was right on target regarding HD Radio and the monopoly that the HD-Radio cartel is creating.
Quoting a portion of Gary's remarks:
"Was that KIIS/fm or any other fm station in the country is now 3 stations? Yup! Clear Channel now has about 3,600 stations to happily program plus analog.
You get a license for one, plus three extra to boot. It's an amazing time for broadcasters and a dream. How can you possibly argue monopoly? The combined Satellite services have about 300 channels. The terrestrial guys just a got [total] of around 25,000 new channels across the country."
It's nice to see that another industry professional recognizes that HD-Radio is giving media conglomerates free extra "stations" which, in turn, gives the cartel additional power over the public airwaves.
db
FIrst of all there's a difference between standard radio where you have many owners even with the three or 4 huge owners and Satellite (who also have their own board for this discussion) who is hoping for a single owner IE; a monoploy. Try as you might terrestrial broadcasting is not a monoploy.
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dbdigital
Guest
PocketRadio said:Could you post a link to that - thanks...
Sure. You might need to subscribe but let's see if this link opens today's column.
http://www.laradio.com/newsite/index3.htm
db
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IBOCRocks
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dbdigital said:Although the subject was the satcaster merger, I really thought broadcaster Gary West's remarks quoted in today's LA Radio column on the NAB's dishonesty was right on target regarding HD Radio and the monopoly that the HD-Radio cartel is creating.
Quoting a portion of Gary's remarks:
"Was that KIIS/fm or any other fm station in the country is now 3 stations? Yup! Clear Channel now has about 3,600 stations to happily program plus analog.
You get a license for one, plus three extra to boot. It's an amazing time for broadcasters and a dream. How can you possibly argue monopoly? The combined Satellite services have about 300 channels. The terrestrial guys just a got [total] of around 25,000 new channels across the country."
It's nice to see that another industry professional recognizes that HD-Radio is giving media conglomerates free extra "stations" which, in turn, gives the cartel additional power over the public airwaves.
db
Gee, HDTV is the same thing. Where's the outrage there?
Nice try, folks....
IBOCRocks said:Every one of your links points to a blog or comment of an HD detractor calling it a cartel. Nobody with any authority has yet to say so.
So, there is not a cartel. It is simply the opinion of a few that it is.
Again, saying that something is something does not make it true.
If you wish to remain intentionally ignorant, that's your problem. There IS an HD Radio cartel, whose existence is quite out in the open. Continuing to deny it just makes you look stupid. The links have been provided to you. It's not anyone's opinion. It's not pulled out of thin air. Funny how those of us who actually work in broadcasting know all about it, and you think it's "simply the opinion of a few."
In case you forgot: http://www.hdradioalliance.com/index.php This time, try actually reading it instead of denying its existence.
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