After more than a year as a talk show host on Air America, Randi Rhodes has made her first excursion outside of New York. (Excluding a few trips to her home base in W. Palm Beach, FL) The goddess has spent the past week hosting her midday show from the studios of AAR’s Phoenix affiliate KXXT. But aside from a few complaints about the flight to Phoenix on America West, you would never know that she actually left New York. Randi has been doing her show safely ensconced in the KXXT studios and has yet to make a public appearance in the Phoenix area. (Reportedly, she will be attending a charity event in the area on Friday night.) Sounds like a big waste of time to move your show and staff 2,000 miles without spending some time pounding the flesh and meeting the public. The other top daytime liberal hosts – Al Franken and Ed Schultz – have made personal appearances in dozens of the markets to standing room-only crowds. Both of them have also broadcast the show in front of live audiences. I know that Randi is shy (unless she is behind a microphone) but I think she is making a mistake by laying low in Arizona.
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Raising Randi in Arizona
- Thread starter kaufcom
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>I know that Randi is shy (unless she is behind a microphone) but I think she is
> making a mistake by laying low in Arizona.>
I don't recall Limbaugh saying a word when he moved his show from New York to Florida. I remember there being some buzz about it and people guessing that he'd moved but I swear I don't think he even told his listeners he'd moved. Later, he just started mentioning Florida as if everyone knew. Now, I was the GM of his Savannah affiliate at the time but I didn't listen to every show and maybe missed a lot of hoopla but I don't think so.
Truth is, I don't see much advantage in going out and pressing the flesh. There's something to be said for maintaining some aura of mystery and fame. Some of the lowest rated stations I know of are always bragging about their "street presence". <P ID="signature">______________
Jerry
My passion for talk radio extends from Limbaugh to Komando to Franken. Please don't bore me with your political opinions or make commentary on what you imagine mine to be. No one cares.
</P>
> making a mistake by laying low in Arizona.>
I don't recall Limbaugh saying a word when he moved his show from New York to Florida. I remember there being some buzz about it and people guessing that he'd moved but I swear I don't think he even told his listeners he'd moved. Later, he just started mentioning Florida as if everyone knew. Now, I was the GM of his Savannah affiliate at the time but I didn't listen to every show and maybe missed a lot of hoopla but I don't think so.
Truth is, I don't see much advantage in going out and pressing the flesh. There's something to be said for maintaining some aura of mystery and fame. Some of the lowest rated stations I know of are always bragging about their "street presence". <P ID="signature">______________
Jerry
My passion for talk radio extends from Limbaugh to Komando to Franken. Please don't bore me with your political opinions or make commentary on what you imagine mine to be. No one cares.
</P>
Didn't she ask for a curtain to be put up around the glass studios?
>
> Truth is, I don't see much advantage in going out and
> pressing the flesh. There's something to be said for
> maintaining some aura of mystery and fame. Some of the
> lowest rated stations I know of are always bragging about
> their "street presence".
>
Franken's show is much better when he's doing it in front of a live audience -- there's much more energy in the air. In fact, Air America would be wise to have a live audience for his show, even when he's in New York. But he's been performing in front of audiences for years and Rhodes hasn't. I suspect she wouldn't do as well, especially if she's as "shy" as she's reported to be.
> Truth is, I don't see much advantage in going out and
> pressing the flesh. There's something to be said for
> maintaining some aura of mystery and fame. Some of the
> lowest rated stations I know of are always bragging about
> their "street presence".
>
Franken's show is much better when he's doing it in front of a live audience -- there's much more energy in the air. In fact, Air America would be wise to have a live audience for his show, even when he's in New York. But he's been performing in front of audiences for years and Rhodes hasn't. I suspect she wouldn't do as well, especially if she's as "shy" as she's reported to be.
> Franken's show is much better when he's doing it in front of
> a live audience --
You have a point there. The first time I heard him do a show in front of an audience I couldn't believe how much more entertaining it was. I've heard others make the same observation.
I was actually referring to the practice of just going out and "pressing the flesh" as a politician would.
Speaking of radio stars who work better with a studio audience, I've had an opportunity to go to a several of Tom Joyner's Road Shows. Unbelievably good. It's like old time radio with the live band, the audience. He's really good at it.<P ID="signature">______________
Jerry
My passion for talk radio extends from Limbaugh to Komando to Franken. Please don't bore me with your political opinions or make commentary on what you imagine mine to be. No one cares.
</P>
> a live audience --
You have a point there. The first time I heard him do a show in front of an audience I couldn't believe how much more entertaining it was. I've heard others make the same observation.
I was actually referring to the practice of just going out and "pressing the flesh" as a politician would.
Speaking of radio stars who work better with a studio audience, I've had an opportunity to go to a several of Tom Joyner's Road Shows. Unbelievably good. It's like old time radio with the live band, the audience. He's really good at it.<P ID="signature">______________
Jerry
My passion for talk radio extends from Limbaugh to Komando to Franken. Please don't bore me with your political opinions or make commentary on what you imagine mine to be. No one cares.
</P>
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drtylawndre
Guest
maybe she is concern about a nut case jumping her bones.....she will be at some event on Friday....I think these live shows work out good for bars/food establishments...but what kind of return the talent gets on it money/ratings I don't know...but Hannity sure knows how to milk his public events..
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heywhatsupglenn
Guest
Liberal Talk Failing Miserably
> maybe she is concern about a nut case jumping her
> bones.....she will be at some event on Friday....I think
> these live shows work out good for bars/food
> establishments...but what kind of return the talent gets on
> it money/ratings I don't know...but Hannity sure knows how
> to milk his public events..
>
There sure is a lot of posting on this board about a format that is failing miserably. Even its best stations have peaked already. And love those D.C. and L.A. ratings!
If it wasn't for a few rich liberal fools constantly bailing this network out and paying to have it run in many markets, it wouldn't be around today.
NPR is the home of liberals and they ain't migrating over to commercial radio. AAR will never survive. But it will rack up plenty of losses.
> maybe she is concern about a nut case jumping her
> bones.....she will be at some event on Friday....I think
> these live shows work out good for bars/food
> establishments...but what kind of return the talent gets on
> it money/ratings I don't know...but Hannity sure knows how
> to milk his public events..
>
There sure is a lot of posting on this board about a format that is failing miserably. Even its best stations have peaked already. And love those D.C. and L.A. ratings!
If it wasn't for a few rich liberal fools constantly bailing this network out and paying to have it run in many markets, it wouldn't be around today.
NPR is the home of liberals and they ain't migrating over to commercial radio. AAR will never survive. But it will rack up plenty of losses.
Re: Liberal Talk Failing Miserably
I really shouldn't dignifty this with a response...perhaps you're making this comment in jest, but...
how can you comment on a stations ratings that has been on the air for Four Weeks (LA)? I know the libtalker in Columbus Oh (WTPG has had its ratings drastically increase, and this is with No crosspromotion on the other CC stations, no billboards or much of any other external advertising...
> There sure is a lot of posting on this board about a format
> that is failing miserably. Even its best stations have
> peaked already. And love those D.C. and L.A. ratings!
>
> If it wasn't for a few rich liberal fools constantly bailing
> this network out and paying to have it run in many markets,
> it wouldn't be around today.
>
> NPR is the home of liberals and they ain't migrating over to
> commercial radio. AAR will never survive. But it will rack
> up plenty of losses.
I really shouldn't dignifty this with a response...perhaps you're making this comment in jest, but...
how can you comment on a stations ratings that has been on the air for Four Weeks (LA)? I know the libtalker in Columbus Oh (WTPG has had its ratings drastically increase, and this is with No crosspromotion on the other CC stations, no billboards or much of any other external advertising...
> There sure is a lot of posting on this board about a format
> that is failing miserably. Even its best stations have
> peaked already. And love those D.C. and L.A. ratings!
>
> If it wasn't for a few rich liberal fools constantly bailing
> this network out and paying to have it run in many markets,
> it wouldn't be around today.
>
> NPR is the home of liberals and they ain't migrating over to
> commercial radio. AAR will never survive. But it will rack
> up plenty of losses.
This thread is failing miserably
> There sure is a lot of posting on this board about a format
> that is failing miserably. Even its best stations have
> peaked already. And love those D.C. and L.A. ratings!
I hate to be the one to tell you this, but this is not very novel commentary.
I don't think there's any correlation between ratings and interest in the topic.
> If it wasn't for a few rich liberal fools constantly bailing this network out
> and paying to have it run in many markets, it wouldn't be around today.
See comment #1
> NPR is the home of liberals and they ain't migrating over to commercial radio.
> AAR will never survive. But it will rack up plenty of losses.
May I suggest a letter to the editor? Flamebaiting is so unappealing.
<P ID="signature">______________
Jerry
My passion for talk radio extends from Limbaugh to Komando to Franken. Please don't bore me with your political opinions or make commentary on what you imagine mine to be. No one cares.
</P>
> There sure is a lot of posting on this board about a format
> that is failing miserably. Even its best stations have
> peaked already. And love those D.C. and L.A. ratings!
I hate to be the one to tell you this, but this is not very novel commentary.
I don't think there's any correlation between ratings and interest in the topic.
> If it wasn't for a few rich liberal fools constantly bailing this network out
> and paying to have it run in many markets, it wouldn't be around today.
See comment #1
> NPR is the home of liberals and they ain't migrating over to commercial radio.
> AAR will never survive. But it will rack up plenty of losses.
May I suggest a letter to the editor? Flamebaiting is so unappealing.
<P ID="signature">______________
Jerry
My passion for talk radio extends from Limbaugh to Komando to Franken. Please don't bore me with your political opinions or make commentary on what you imagine mine to be. No one cares.
</P>
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Mark_Giardina
Guest
Re: Liberal Talk Failing Miserably: Not really !
> NPR is the home of liberals and they ain't migrating over to
> commercial radio. AAR will never survive. But it will rack
> up plenty of losses.
>
That isn’t the case in the market where I live. The NPR stations (AM&FM) have taken a nose-dive in the recent winter book while the Air America affiliate has seen an increase in audience.
In fact the NPR affiliate’s audience is now about the same as the station that carries Air America. This is a huge turnaround considering that at one time the NPR affiliate had over a 3 share compared to a 0.7 for the AAR affiliated station. Now both of them average around a 1.8 share.
Does this mean there is a mass audience erosion from NPR to Air America? Not really. What it does mean is that some NPR affiliates carry programs that are either out of touch with their audience or feature shows that needs revamping. Especially some local talk programs that feature the same topics, guests and callers on a continuous basis.
The other scenario is that some people have left NPR because of a variety of reasons. A few are still upset with the departure of Bob Edwards. Maybe they are tired of All Things Considered. Who knows?
At the present time I don’t see Air America flying away just yet. Personally I’ve never listened to Air America so it’s tough for me to judge their content. But it will be interesting to see how AAR compares to NPR affiliates in different markets over the next few years.
<P ID="signature">______________
"I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted and I won't be laid a hand on.
I don't do these things to other people and I expect the same from them".</P>
> NPR is the home of liberals and they ain't migrating over to
> commercial radio. AAR will never survive. But it will rack
> up plenty of losses.
>
That isn’t the case in the market where I live. The NPR stations (AM&FM) have taken a nose-dive in the recent winter book while the Air America affiliate has seen an increase in audience.
In fact the NPR affiliate’s audience is now about the same as the station that carries Air America. This is a huge turnaround considering that at one time the NPR affiliate had over a 3 share compared to a 0.7 for the AAR affiliated station. Now both of them average around a 1.8 share.
Does this mean there is a mass audience erosion from NPR to Air America? Not really. What it does mean is that some NPR affiliates carry programs that are either out of touch with their audience or feature shows that needs revamping. Especially some local talk programs that feature the same topics, guests and callers on a continuous basis.
The other scenario is that some people have left NPR because of a variety of reasons. A few are still upset with the departure of Bob Edwards. Maybe they are tired of All Things Considered. Who knows?
At the present time I don’t see Air America flying away just yet. Personally I’ve never listened to Air America so it’s tough for me to judge their content. But it will be interesting to see how AAR compares to NPR affiliates in different markets over the next few years.
<P ID="signature">______________
"I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted and I won't be laid a hand on.
I don't do these things to other people and I expect the same from them".</P>
> Randi has been doing her show
> safely ensconced in the KXXT studios and has yet to make a
> public appearance in the Phoenix area.
She has been meeting with small groups. She mentioned yesterday that she would be meeting with local Democrat activists Thursday evening.<P ID="signature">______________
also known as tombetz.</P>
> safely ensconced in the KXXT studios and has yet to make a
> public appearance in the Phoenix area.
She has been meeting with small groups. She mentioned yesterday that she would be meeting with local Democrat activists Thursday evening.<P ID="signature">______________
also known as tombetz.</P>
Re: Troll Bait Failing Miserably
> There sure is a lot of posting on this board about a format
> that is failing miserably.
What a joke of a troll post.
David Eduardo, where are you?
Ah well, until he shows up on this message board with his typical informed comment, you can see what he had to say about this matter recently here.
Progressive Talk in general, and Air America Radio in particular, is doing quite well.<P ID="signature">______________
also known as tombetz.</P>
> There sure is a lot of posting on this board about a format
> that is failing miserably.
What a joke of a troll post.
David Eduardo, where are you?
Ah well, until he shows up on this message board with his typical informed comment, you can see what he had to say about this matter recently here.
Progressive Talk in general, and Air America Radio in particular, is doing quite well.<P ID="signature">______________
also known as tombetz.</P>
Re: Liberal Talk Failing Miserably
Time to play with the trolls...
> There sure is a lot of posting on this board about a format
> that is failing miserably. Even its best stations have
> peaked already. And love those D.C. and L.A. ratings!
Stop getting your ratings from conservative bloggers and O'Reilly... guess what, they are taffy pulled to represent the hopes and dreams of those who look forward to AA's demise. Not gonna happen.
> If it wasn't for a few rich liberal fools constantly bailing
> this network out and paying to have it run in many markets,
> it wouldn't be around today.
There was a management change in the first month of operation, but that was the only "bailing out" involved. The network has been growing and adding accounts every week. AA does not pay to have its service run in "many markets." It actually bought the airtime for WLIB in NYC and had an agreement in Chicago and Los Angeles which fell apart during the first month. Now, only WLIB gets paid. That's it. They are back on in both those cities with traditional network affiliation agreements.
> NPR is the home of liberals and they ain't migrating over to
> commercial radio. AAR will never survive. But it will rack
> up plenty of losses.
NPR has nothing to do with AA. Otherwise, thank you for your fortune cookie prediction.
Time to play with the trolls...
> There sure is a lot of posting on this board about a format
> that is failing miserably. Even its best stations have
> peaked already. And love those D.C. and L.A. ratings!
Stop getting your ratings from conservative bloggers and O'Reilly... guess what, they are taffy pulled to represent the hopes and dreams of those who look forward to AA's demise. Not gonna happen.
> If it wasn't for a few rich liberal fools constantly bailing
> this network out and paying to have it run in many markets,
> it wouldn't be around today.
There was a management change in the first month of operation, but that was the only "bailing out" involved. The network has been growing and adding accounts every week. AA does not pay to have its service run in "many markets." It actually bought the airtime for WLIB in NYC and had an agreement in Chicago and Los Angeles which fell apart during the first month. Now, only WLIB gets paid. That's it. They are back on in both those cities with traditional network affiliation agreements.
> NPR is the home of liberals and they ain't migrating over to
> commercial radio. AAR will never survive. But it will rack
> up plenty of losses.
NPR has nothing to do with AA. Otherwise, thank you for your fortune cookie prediction.
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drtylawndre
Guest
Re: Liberal Talk Failing Miserably
Rich conservatives and conservative companies backed people like limbaugh early-on...so what is wrong with rich liberals throwing their money around? Are you against rich people?
and with music going ipod, and mp3..more talk will be out there...how many conservative sound a like, think a like, shows can radio sustain?
There may even be room for people who think for themselves like Art Bell---someone who is pro-gun, anti-war and concern about global warming---his ratings/station count is better than the gaggle of conservative sound a likes with the exception of Hannity, Limbaugh and Savage...
With Bush's ratings at 37% and 57% percent of people believing going into Iraq was a mistake...there might be enough people out there besides Bush-boot-lickers to turn the dial to something else.
Rich conservatives and conservative companies backed people like limbaugh early-on...so what is wrong with rich liberals throwing their money around? Are you against rich people?
and with music going ipod, and mp3..more talk will be out there...how many conservative sound a like, think a like, shows can radio sustain?
There may even be room for people who think for themselves like Art Bell---someone who is pro-gun, anti-war and concern about global warming---his ratings/station count is better than the gaggle of conservative sound a likes with the exception of Hannity, Limbaugh and Savage...
With Bush's ratings at 37% and 57% percent of people believing going into Iraq was a mistake...there might be enough people out there besides Bush-boot-lickers to turn the dial to something else.
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heywhatsupglenn
Guest
Will the REAL Liberal Trolls Please Stand Up
> > There sure is a lot of posting on this board about a
> format
> > that is failing miserably.
>
> What a joke of a troll post.
>
> David Eduardo, where are you?
>
> Ah well, until he shows up on this message board with his
> typical informed comment, you can see what he had to say
> about this matter recently here.
>
> Progressive Talk in general, and Air America Radio in
> particular, is doing quite well.
>
Sorry, dude. But I am a major contibutor to conservative talk station.
Lets see the ratings and revenue. Post them right here. And since the company I am "contibuting" to owns a number of liberal talk stations that aren't making what they expected, you've met your match.
Air America is a failure. And it is being bailed out constantly. It is in the red for many millions and growing. It won't ever make a dime before it folds.
Anyone who doesn't think that NPR is where the liberals go to listen and are not leaving for commercial radio has had an entire batch of kool aid...
I suggest you look at my posting history in the Los Angeles forum.
> > There sure is a lot of posting on this board about a
> format
> > that is failing miserably.
>
> What a joke of a troll post.
>
> David Eduardo, where are you?
>
> Ah well, until he shows up on this message board with his
> typical informed comment, you can see what he had to say
> about this matter recently here.
>
> Progressive Talk in general, and Air America Radio in
> particular, is doing quite well.
>
Sorry, dude. But I am a major contibutor to conservative talk station.
Lets see the ratings and revenue. Post them right here. And since the company I am "contibuting" to owns a number of liberal talk stations that aren't making what they expected, you've met your match.
Air America is a failure. And it is being bailed out constantly. It is in the red for many millions and growing. It won't ever make a dime before it folds.
Anyone who doesn't think that NPR is where the liberals go to listen and are not leaving for commercial radio has had an entire batch of kool aid...
I suggest you look at my posting history in the Los Angeles forum.
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heywhatsupglenn
Guest
Re: Liberal Talk Failing Miserably: Not really !
> > NPR is the home of liberals and they ain't migrating over
> to
> > commercial radio. AAR will never survive. But it will rack
>
> > up plenty of losses.
> >
>
>
> That isn’t the case in the market where I live. The NPR
> stations (AM&FM) have taken a nose-dive in the recent winter
> book while the Air America affiliate has seen an increase in
> audience.
>
> In fact the NPR affiliate’s audience is now about the same
> as the station that carries Air America. This is a huge
> turnaround considering that at one time the NPR affiliate
> had over a 3 share compared to a 0.7 for the AAR affiliated
> station. Now both of them average around a 1.8 share.
>
> Does this mean there is a mass audience erosion from NPR to
> Air America? Not really. What it does mean is that some NPR
> affiliates carry programs that are either out of touch with
> their audience or feature shows that needs revamping.
> Especially some local talk programs that feature the same
> topics, guests and callers on a continuous basis.
>
> The other scenario is that some people have left NPR because
> of a variety of reasons. A few are still upset with the
> departure of Bob Edwards. Maybe they are tired of All Things
> Considered. Who knows?
>
> At the present time I don’t see Air America flying away just
> yet. Personally I’ve never listened to Air America so it’s
> tough for me to judge their content. But it will be
> interesting to see how AAR compares to NPR affiliates in
> different markets over the next few years.
>
Not Los Angeles, New York, Chicago or San Francisco...maybe in the big metropolis of Eugene, Oregon. Maybe someone needs to follow the survey that was even published at InsideRadio.com in recent weeks.
Once Clear Channel pulls the plug, it will be all over. In Los Angeles, CCU is getting Air America for free and being paid a kick-back to air it. The vast majority of spots on K-Talk are a (free) bonus for buying (conservative talk) KFI. Now show me your progressive revenue and ratings sucesses.
> > NPR is the home of liberals and they ain't migrating over
> to
> > commercial radio. AAR will never survive. But it will rack
>
> > up plenty of losses.
> >
>
>
> That isn’t the case in the market where I live. The NPR
> stations (AM&FM) have taken a nose-dive in the recent winter
> book while the Air America affiliate has seen an increase in
> audience.
>
> In fact the NPR affiliate’s audience is now about the same
> as the station that carries Air America. This is a huge
> turnaround considering that at one time the NPR affiliate
> had over a 3 share compared to a 0.7 for the AAR affiliated
> station. Now both of them average around a 1.8 share.
>
> Does this mean there is a mass audience erosion from NPR to
> Air America? Not really. What it does mean is that some NPR
> affiliates carry programs that are either out of touch with
> their audience or feature shows that needs revamping.
> Especially some local talk programs that feature the same
> topics, guests and callers on a continuous basis.
>
> The other scenario is that some people have left NPR because
> of a variety of reasons. A few are still upset with the
> departure of Bob Edwards. Maybe they are tired of All Things
> Considered. Who knows?
>
> At the present time I don’t see Air America flying away just
> yet. Personally I’ve never listened to Air America so it’s
> tough for me to judge their content. But it will be
> interesting to see how AAR compares to NPR affiliates in
> different markets over the next few years.
>
Not Los Angeles, New York, Chicago or San Francisco...maybe in the big metropolis of Eugene, Oregon. Maybe someone needs to follow the survey that was even published at InsideRadio.com in recent weeks.
Once Clear Channel pulls the plug, it will be all over. In Los Angeles, CCU is getting Air America for free and being paid a kick-back to air it. The vast majority of spots on K-Talk are a (free) bonus for buying (conservative talk) KFI. Now show me your progressive revenue and ratings sucesses.
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heywhatsupglenn
Guest
Re: Liberal Talk Failing Miserably
> I really shouldn't dignifty this with a response...perhaps
> you're making this comment in jest, but...
> how can you comment on a stations ratings that has been on
> the air for Four Weeks (LA)?
It's been on for 17 weeks. Get your facts correct.
I know the libtalker in
> Columbus Oh (WTPG has had its ratings drastically increase,
> and this is with No crosspromotion on the other CC stations,
> no billboards or much of any other external advertising...
Columbus, Ohio is the HUB of major markets in America, isn't it?
New York has peaked and been going down hill, Los Angeles nor Washington D.C. can get out of the gate, Chicago won't ever happen and Washington D.C. isn't even on the radar (among others). What other SMALL markets are going to put Air America in the black? Get real. Liberals, some advice, keep listening to NPR. Your fellow liberals aren't going to bail from it. I should know since most of my friends are liberals... Thankfully, I have all my senses.
>
> > There sure is a lot of posting on this board about a
> format
> > that is failing miserably. Even its best stations have
> > peaked already. And love those D.C. and L.A. ratings!
> >
> > If it wasn't for a few rich liberal fools constantly
> bailing
> > this network out and paying to have it run in many
> markets,
> > it wouldn't be around today.
> >
> > NPR is the home of liberals and they ain't migrating over
> to
> > commercial radio. AAR will never survive. But it will rack
>
> > up plenty of losses.
>
> I really shouldn't dignifty this with a response...perhaps
> you're making this comment in jest, but...
> how can you comment on a stations ratings that has been on
> the air for Four Weeks (LA)?
It's been on for 17 weeks. Get your facts correct.
I know the libtalker in
> Columbus Oh (WTPG has had its ratings drastically increase,
> and this is with No crosspromotion on the other CC stations,
> no billboards or much of any other external advertising...
Columbus, Ohio is the HUB of major markets in America, isn't it?
New York has peaked and been going down hill, Los Angeles nor Washington D.C. can get out of the gate, Chicago won't ever happen and Washington D.C. isn't even on the radar (among others). What other SMALL markets are going to put Air America in the black? Get real. Liberals, some advice, keep listening to NPR. Your fellow liberals aren't going to bail from it. I should know since most of my friends are liberals... Thankfully, I have all my senses.
>
> > There sure is a lot of posting on this board about a
> format
> > that is failing miserably. Even its best stations have
> > peaked already. And love those D.C. and L.A. ratings!
> >
> > If it wasn't for a few rich liberal fools constantly
> bailing
> > this network out and paying to have it run in many
> markets,
> > it wouldn't be around today.
> >
> > NPR is the home of liberals and they ain't migrating over
> to
> > commercial radio. AAR will never survive. But it will rack
>
> > up plenty of losses.
>
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Tom_
Guest
"AAR STATION?" ???
(This isn't replying to anyone in particular...)
Stations that happen to have Air America hosts are PROGRESSIVE talk stations...NOT Air America stations...
When people discuss trends for PROGRESSIVE talk stations, remember that several hours of programming comes from Jones and other networks, and local hosts as well...
Furthermore, 12+ trends on Radio and Records 6a-MID are not the entire story...look at the 25-54, 35-64 demos...
Look at a few examples of hosts that also appear on PROGRESSIVE stations that may or may not also have Air America hosts:
Ed Schultz (Jones/?new company name of Randy Michaels)
Stephanie Miller (Jones/Democracy)
Alan Colmes (FOX radio)
Doug Stephan (Liberty has transitioned...)
Doug Basham (Henderson R. N.)
Mark Levine (Talk Star R. N.)
Thom Hartmann (local on KPOJ/Portland and also nationally syndicated)
Lionel
Locals:
Thom Hartmann (local, KPOJ, Portland)
Nancy Skinner (local, K---, AM 1310 Detroit)
Jay Marvin (local, K---, Boulder/Denver)
Christine Craft (local, KSAC, Sacramento)
etc. etc.
(This isn't replying to anyone in particular...)
Stations that happen to have Air America hosts are PROGRESSIVE talk stations...NOT Air America stations...
When people discuss trends for PROGRESSIVE talk stations, remember that several hours of programming comes from Jones and other networks, and local hosts as well...
Furthermore, 12+ trends on Radio and Records 6a-MID are not the entire story...look at the 25-54, 35-64 demos...
Look at a few examples of hosts that also appear on PROGRESSIVE stations that may or may not also have Air America hosts:
Ed Schultz (Jones/?new company name of Randy Michaels)
Stephanie Miller (Jones/Democracy)
Alan Colmes (FOX radio)
Doug Stephan (Liberty has transitioned...)
Doug Basham (Henderson R. N.)
Mark Levine (Talk Star R. N.)
Thom Hartmann (local on KPOJ/Portland and also nationally syndicated)
Lionel
Locals:
Thom Hartmann (local, KPOJ, Portland)
Nancy Skinner (local, K---, AM 1310 Detroit)
Jay Marvin (local, K---, Boulder/Denver)
Christine Craft (local, KSAC, Sacramento)
etc. etc.
T
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Where PROGRESSIVE talk HAS NOT failed...and is HERE TO STAY...
One more thing...progressive talkers have ALWAYS been out there...and many have been going strong for DECADES...
Why the uproar over progressive talk here I just can't understand when we have hosts like Alan Colmes who has been going in radio and TV at least since 1990...
Or, as someone pointed out above, Art Bell, who as the poster said, thinks for himself, and is concerned about global warming, alternative fuels, and is anti-war.
Or, in local markets, the centerist yet left leaning Dave Ross in Seattle on KIRO for 25 years...the passionate ultraliberal host Ray Talliaferro on KGO AM 810 San Francisco for nearly 40 years...other liberals at KGO and KIRO such as Bernie Ward and John Rothmann...Karel at both KFI/Los Angeles and now at KGO/San Francisco, Cristine Craft now at KSAC/Sacramento formerly on KGO, Tony Trupiano on the Michigan Talk Radio Network, Pacific host Amy Goodman who has a loyal following among the far left of whom some find Air America too soft on the war, and I could go on and on...
Progressive talent has been here forever and is here to stay. Air America should NEVER be confused with the progressive talk FORMAT...
Key word = FORMAT, if you want to call it that...
An analysis of the ratings and revenue of stations whose program directors have elected to carry Air America programs should NEVER be used in an effort to discredit progressive talk radio IN GENERAL...which includes hundreds of local hosts and programs that have loyal followings in niche markets as aforementioned...
So...progressive talk is here to stay...
As for Air America? We'll see...
Two different issues.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by this Tom: on 06/18/05 06:22 AM.</FONT></P>
One more thing...progressive talkers have ALWAYS been out there...and many have been going strong for DECADES...
Why the uproar over progressive talk here I just can't understand when we have hosts like Alan Colmes who has been going in radio and TV at least since 1990...
Or, as someone pointed out above, Art Bell, who as the poster said, thinks for himself, and is concerned about global warming, alternative fuels, and is anti-war.
Or, in local markets, the centerist yet left leaning Dave Ross in Seattle on KIRO for 25 years...the passionate ultraliberal host Ray Talliaferro on KGO AM 810 San Francisco for nearly 40 years...other liberals at KGO and KIRO such as Bernie Ward and John Rothmann...Karel at both KFI/Los Angeles and now at KGO/San Francisco, Cristine Craft now at KSAC/Sacramento formerly on KGO, Tony Trupiano on the Michigan Talk Radio Network, Pacific host Amy Goodman who has a loyal following among the far left of whom some find Air America too soft on the war, and I could go on and on...
Progressive talent has been here forever and is here to stay. Air America should NEVER be confused with the progressive talk FORMAT...
Key word = FORMAT, if you want to call it that...
An analysis of the ratings and revenue of stations whose program directors have elected to carry Air America programs should NEVER be used in an effort to discredit progressive talk radio IN GENERAL...which includes hundreds of local hosts and programs that have loyal followings in niche markets as aforementioned...
So...progressive talk is here to stay...
As for Air America? We'll see...
Two different issues.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by this Tom: on 06/18/05 06:22 AM.</FONT></P>
Re: Liberal Talk Failing Miserably
> There sure is a lot of posting on this board about a format
> that is failing miserably. Even its best stations have
> peaked already. And love those D.C. and L.A. ratings!
I'm not sure what kind of "billing" they have but in the 12 + ratings it is a failure in many cities, including Boston at 0.0! Maybe these shows/stations
will catch on eventually; even Rush Limbaugh took awhile to get going.
Then again Rush's show didn't get financing like the AAR/prog. stations got.
> There sure is a lot of posting on this board about a format
> that is failing miserably. Even its best stations have
> peaked already. And love those D.C. and L.A. ratings!
I'm not sure what kind of "billing" they have but in the 12 + ratings it is a failure in many cities, including Boston at 0.0! Maybe these shows/stations
will catch on eventually; even Rush Limbaugh took awhile to get going.
Then again Rush's show didn't get financing like the AAR/prog. stations got.
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