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Randi Rhodes To Do SF-Only Show?

You don't suppose Rhodes' show will comprise of repeats,
similar to the "Best Of" Don Imus shows last year on KCAA in
San Bernardino after he was fired by CBS for his comments?
::)
--jay
 
No, she's scheduled to be on live. There's more info but I'm not sure if it's in-house only; I'll check and report back.
 
Way to go, Air America. Nice to see that you still stand up for the First Amendment.
 
So, if this is true about Randy being fired from AA for what she said, how about Bill ("I never learned McCain's middle name") Cunningham at WLW after what he said?

No, huh.
 
>>what cunningham said is controversial.......but can be said on the radio, what rhodes said can't

And it wasn't. It was said in a nightclub to a paying audience.
 
Air America has to answer to their sponsors & listeners (and they have a reputation as a news/talk
organization to newsmakers, etc.). Note how advertisers pulling out led to CBS/MSNBC
severing ties with Imus. You can say what you want on the radio but if your bosses say no, you are invited
to check out another employer...there's the door. If I work for WalMart as a greeter, can I say "Go bleep
yourself" to each customer who walks in? Yes, I can. I am capable of saying those words. However
I would not be long for that job. Words have consequences. I'll just find a job at a store that allows
their employees to throw insults at customers when they walk in. Easy, right?

Ask Michael Savage, btw, who was let go by MSNBC after the "you should only get AIDS and die,
you pig, how's that?" on air remarks. (And yes she did say these comments off air...)

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2003-07-07-talk-host-fired_x.htm
 
ascottgil said:
Way to go, Air America. Nice to see that you still stand up for the First Amendment.
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If she made her crude remarks in private or in a situation where she was representing only herself I could support her (though what she said wasn't the least bit clever or insightful). HOWEVER, she made the comments at a public gathering sponsored by her employer, a radio network that depends on listeners and advertisers. When you're being paid to represent someone you should do their bidding. If she can't do that then she should freelance and set up her own radio network.
 
she made the comments at a public gathering sponsored by her employer, a radio network that depends on listeners and advertisers
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No, the event was sponsored by "Green 960" (KKGN, formerly KQKE) which is owned by Clear Channel, not by her former employer (Air America Media). If she had been fired by Clear Channel (or by Citadel for distributing kiddie porn) I would have chalked it up to "par for the course", but being fired by Air America Media for expressing her opinion smacks of serious hypocrisy, given that the remarks were not made on their air, at their event or on their dime.

I miss her. I really enjoyed her show here on KTLK in L.A. It's one less reason to listen to (Hot) Air America, and there aren't that many reasons to begin with. If I were Mickey Luckoff I would offer her the 10p to 1a shift in an instant.
 
chris319 said:
No, the event was sponsored by "Green 960" (KKGN, formerly KQKE) which is owned by Clear Channel, not by her former employer (Air America Media).
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My understanding is that it was sponsored by Air America. KKGN did not fire her or ask AA to fire her. Thus they have no beef with her and plan to put her on again.

Regardless of who was technically sponsoring her, she was clearly representing Air America, because the audience was there because they knew her from AA, not because they knew her from any other place. Until AA began to carry her, people outside of broadcasting knew nothing about her, so they certainly wouldn't have shown up for a speech by her.

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This says "Green 960/KKGN/Clear Channel" to me:

Comments made by Randi Rhodes were made during a Green 960 Event on March 22nd. Those in attendance were required to sign up through Green960.com and paid $5 to attend. Money raised went to Green960.
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Regardless of who was technically sponsoring her, she was clearly representing Air America, because the audience was there because they knew her from AA, not because they knew her from any other place. Until AA began to carry her, people outside of broadcasting knew nothing about her, so they certainly wouldn't have shown up for a speech by her.
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And that justifies them giving her the heave-ho? Anyway, she's now been picked up by Nova-M, whatever the heck that is.
 
The Huffington Post quotes an Air America source as saying there was no love lost between Rhodes and her colleagues at the network. "No one is upset. She made the move but there's relief and joy."

Dismissing claims that Rhodes was just doing stand-up comedy in San Francisco when she made the remarks, the source confirmed that Air America paid her way to California, that she was advertised as "Air America's Randi Rhodes," and that the Air America website urged people to go for "an evening of politics and pop culture." The source said, "Air America pays people to be talk show hosts, not stand-up comics, or else we'd hire Chris Rock."
 
DavidKaye said:
chris319 said:
No, the event was sponsored by "Green 960" (KKGN, formerly KQKE) which is owned by Clear Channel, not by her former employer (Air America Media).
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My understanding is that it was sponsored by Air America. KKGN did not fire her or ask AA to fire her. Thus they have no beef with her and plan to put her on again.

Regardless of who was technically sponsoring her, she was clearly representing Air America, because the audience was there because they knew her from AA, not because they knew her from any other place. Until AA began to carry her, people outside of broadcasting knew nothing about her, so they certainly wouldn't have shown up for a speech by her.

Except for listeners in south Florida.

I've listened to Randi Rhodes on and off since 1993; first on WIOD and finally on WJNO before she joined Air America.

WJNO which is also a ClearChannel station has on their website that Randi is returning there so she will be on WJNO-1290 as well as the station in San Francisco and whatever stations air Nove M programming.
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This is not a first amendment issue.. The first amendment involves GOVERNMENT restricting freedom of speech. I"m just disappointed that Randi is apparently such a misogynist..Many women have been raised that way..to think of themselves as second class..ie ..That she would make jokes on the air about HIllary Clinton's reproductive parts and it was supposed to be funny? Not to mention the famous appearance utterances..what if someone who didn't like obama had called him a "f-ing n-word" at an Air America sponsored event, would so many lefties be blubbering about AAR and freedom of speech? The question answers itself. sexism has a much longer shelf life than racism. Neither will ever be extinct..likely.

I say this as a longtime Rhodes fan..who stopped listening when she stopped applying her usual well-researched analysis and began attacking Hillary merely for gender.nuff said.
 
Actually I was on the same station in Sacramento as Randi Rhodes and beat her in the ratings....I'm proud to say...I think she is immensely talented..but what am I? chopped liver? don't answer that...catch me on KGO soon
 
It looks from the press release as if the show will originate from Phoenix and not SF. Either way, it's really nice to see a talent be able to give a screw-U to their employer and just take their act elsewhere immediately when the employer tries to show em who's boss.
 
coppersmom said:
This is not a first amendment issue.. The first amendment involves GOVERNMENT restricting freedom of speech. I"m just disappointed that Randi is apparently such a misogynist..Many women have been raised that way..to think of themselves as second class..ie ..That she would make jokes on the air about HIllary Clinton's reproductive parts and it was supposed to be funny? Not to mention the famous appearance utterances..what if someone who didn't like obama had called him a "f-ing n-word" at an Air America sponsored event, would so many lefties be blubbering about AAR and freedom of speech? The question answers itself. sexism has a much longer shelf life than racism. Neither will ever be extinct..likely.

I say this as a longtime Rhodes fan..who stopped listening when she stopped applying her usual well-researched analysis and began attacking Hillary merely for gender.nuff said.
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... knowing that I'm risking a Hell of a lot on this board; I would still like to read over your thoughtful legal views on this matter. Rhodes was apparently not working as an 'at-will' employee since she had a Contract. As a general rule of thumb; is it OK for an employer to apparently defame an employee or vendor as a way to encourage them to renegotiate their contract with them? I would suspect that it's not.

While I would argue that Freedom of Speech goes beyond the Government today In strong disagreement with you and a few others on this board); I think most back-and-forth on this issue is sophomoric quibbling at best, including the back-and-forth that NewsVet and myself have engaged in. I'm not interested in quibbling about Free Speech issues any further.

Still, we could say that Free Speech has its limits -- or maybe not. I would like to know what you think the free speech limits are these days for employees, employers and vendors -- should a business be able to intrude upon an employee or vendor's private life and business and fire them if they don't like what they see or hear? How far can this intrusion go; and under what circumstances? What if I'm obese or I smoke -- would DNA testing be OK with you? On a related issue involving intrusiveness; is it OK to WalMart to order a vendor to build its products in China, or to pay its employees no more than, say, $6/hr; or order them to NOT do business with Target? This looks like restraint-of-trade to me; WalMart claims it's a free speech issue.

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I think there are larger, more important, and more interesting issues involiving the Randi Rhodes dust-up, than endlessly denouncing the tiresome old words Randi Rhodes happened to use during a stand-up comedy routine, delivered privately to a consensual and approving audience. You ought to cover all this some night soon on your show -- and not just dismiss Randi Rhodes as a misogynist. That's just too easy.


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