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Rant here about Timeless Classics

Oak Tree, Disagree, but don't get left behid. Dial Global relies on research. NOT US - but THEY KNOW who they want to listen. Thats the target. YOU may think it's soomeone that it's NOT. Thy've been doing this with SELECTOR for more than 1 years.

As you say, They've eliminated lots of standards. Those people are dying off. HOW do you replace them? To get "new blood" listenning
they need to get "younger."

WOKY, Milwaukee dropped Dal Global and is playing the Lovin Spoonful. Ther are many am stations (at least in this area) doing "automated oldies/standards." Will it work? Who knows.

I think Chick is finding that you can't "live in the past" too long. If it was "all standards" like it was to begin with, you and I would LOVE it - but the "focus groups" (and they use MANY) may not be responding as you and I would.

I notice that You kept me off the list of "vice-presidents." I'm ok with that. I've had my fil.. I'm pretty much retired, and my 10,000 song i-pod plays about 90% standards.
 
This thread is all over the place. We need to get back to its original intent.

My next few comments (which I will likely make over a period of weeks because I don't have time to be here) will be about Worthless Classics, but they'll be positive. I'll post a link if you want to see why I have quit listening to the format entirely, except for my planned trip to the mountains.

First of all: the last song I heard on Pointless Classics which I had never heard in the format was "I Go Crazy" by Paul Davis. Now I like that one because of the violins and piano, though I find the futuristic (at the time it was recorded) keyboard irritating.
 
Hammondo - certainly no slight intended. You are, with me, a supervisor of R&D. Plus, you're retired from radio, so, your's is part-time duty.... :)
 
Thanks. If I ever fall out of bed and hit my head, I know where I can go! (tee hee!),
 
oaktree said:
RMarino...what a wonderful, enlightening post. I appreciate you very much.

And to everyone else who put your thinking caps on ... GREAT JOB and superb input.

I'd love to produce this format for everyone posting here. With your input, it would be a blast!

Again, Mr. Marino -- stay young and keep listening to "the hits."

Best - oaktree
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Thanks for the compliments oaktree. I have spent time in programming, but unfortunately it only lasted a couple of years and it wasn't in the standards format. But yeah, a few of us here would make a heck of a team!

-Rich
 
vchimpanzee said:
First of all: the last song I heard on Pointless Classics which I had never heard in the format was "I Go Crazy" by Paul Davis. Now I like that one because of the violins and piano, though I find the futuristic (at the time it was recorded) keyboard irritating.
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I remember hearing "I Go Crazy" on Westwood One's standards back in 2001. Yeah it did sound jarring back then. But these days I wouldn't even think twice about it.
 
RMarino said:
vchimpanzee said:
First of all: the last song I heard on Pointless Classics which I had never heard in the format was "I Go Crazy" by Paul Davis. Now I like that one because of the violins and piano, though I find the futuristic (at the time it was recorded) keyboard irritating.
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I remember hearing "I Go Crazy" on Westwood One's standards back in 2001. Yeah it did sound jarring back then. But these days I wouldn't even think twice about it.
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I don't find it strange, really. I didn't find it jarring considering the current state of the format.

Continuing with songs that sound strange on standards radio, back before the change Bud Buschardt played Isaac Hayes' "Theme From 'Shaft'" the week that it was #1. The format once played a watered-down instrumental version that didn't sound nearly as good. I like the song, despite the off-color lyrics. Mainly because of the instrumentals. But Isaac Hayes is a good singer too. Actually, he's mostly talking, now that I think about it.
 
I went to the mountains last week. During the time when I could only hear a Worthless Classics station (later I found out I could have been listening to classic country) the only song I heard that wouldn't have been in the old format was "I Just Want To Be Your Everything" by Andy Gibb. Which I like. But Dial Global was so much better earlier in the day and later in the day, and for most of the week.
 
So Bud Buschardt mentioned Linda Ronstadt. There were three possibilities, and the signal was so poor I couldn't make out what he was doing until the song started. It has been a while since I heard one of her versions of standards. Why? The recordings aren't OLD. Sinatra's are.

Anyway, it was none of the above. "When Will I Be Loved?" But even though it would be no surprise to me to hear this on Pointless Classics, it was the Everly Brothers.
 
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"When will I Be Loved" was a #8 HIT for the Everlys in 1960. No doubt Bud was referring to Ronstadt's remake THAT (incidentally) REACHED #2 on the chart in 1975. Her version OUTSOLD the original.

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You know what group I love to hear and used to get played sometimes on the old (pre-2006) format? The hollyridge strings. They did a terrific instrumental version of Strawberry Fields Forever.
 
Radio Oldie Man said:
You know what group I love to hear and used to get played sometimes on the old (pre-2006) format? The hollyridge strings. They did a terrific instrumental version of Strawberry Fields Forever.
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I'm so glad someone finally told me who did that. That was a great instrumental. I wrote them numerous times and never got a repsonse about who did that. I don't know why I never asked by phone.

The original is awful.
 
hammondo said:
"When will I Be Loved" was a #8 HIT for the Everlys in 1960. No doubt Bud was referring to Ronstadt's remake THAT (incidentally) REACHED #2 on the chart in 1975. Her version OUTSOLD the original.
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As I said, I heard the words "Linda Ronstadt", but the signal on that station is lousy. If I'm lucky I hear what they're doing, Just out of curiosity. It was a relief, for whatever reason, that they weren't doing that newer version which is too loud for the format.

Though the local affilaite plays it anyway because they don't know any better.
 
vchimpanzee said:
Radio Oldie Man said:
You know what group I love to hear and used to get played sometimes on the old (pre-2006) format? The hollyridge strings. They did a terrific instrumental version of Strawberry Fields Forever.
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I'm so glad someone finally told me who did that. That was a great instrumental. I wrote them numerous times and never got a repsonse about who did that. I don't know why I never asked by phone.
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There's a Hollyridge Strings 3-CD set available (The Beatles Songbook) on the CEMA Special Markets label (#15040). "Strawberry Fields Forever" is on there.
 
RMarino said:
>>Ronstadt...from the "Trilogy" album with Riddle. <<

Never heard of it, but I would have to say probably not. I could see the following Ronstadt songs in the format:
Long, Long Time
Blue Bayou
What's New
Somewhere Out There
and the Aaron Neville duets (Don't Know Much, All My Life)
and possibly Oh, No Not My Baby
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Wasn't "Trilogy" a repackaged set of the 3 individual albums Linda recorded with Nelson Riddle? The first was actually the "What's New" album in 1983, followed by "Lush Life" and "For Sentimental Reasons."

She probably wasn't the first to do so, but I think Linda Ronstadt started the trend of mainstream pop stars giving new life to the standards. It seemed like a different concept in 1983.

Sidenote: When I first read that sentence "'Trilogy' album with Riddle," I thought to myself, "no, that's not right... Trilogy was the album she did with Dolly Parton & Emmylou Harris." But actually, that was called "Trio."
 
I got a new ('97) car. Should anyone want to read details,

http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,66212.0.html

But now that I can hear Pointless Classics again in the car, I'm at least content, provided I don't hear anything off-the-wall, which I haven't lately. Well, there was "Just A Song Before I Go" by Crosby and Stills and whoever. I just turned the thing off because I'm used to not having it.

I said content, but not happy. Because I know I can do better. One of these days I might hear the better station in the car, not just at home.

I did get lucky and hear Henry Mancini's "Where Do I Begin".

On the other hand, one day I started the car and I'm not used to hearing the radio. And "I Feel The Earth Move" by Carole King was playing. That was quite startling. I don't know if it was part of the old Timeless Classics. I don't care. I don't like it.
 
Okay, I can't seem to turn this station on without hearing one song that doesn't work.

Most of the songs are still good. But I was able to pick up Country Legends 98.3. Tomorrow I attempt to deal with Dial Global.
 
semoochie said:
Love Story?
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I assume you're referring to Henry Mancini. Yes, that's what it's from.

I had another good experience with this format, except for the obviously adult contemporary station IDs which I guess are local. It was Thursday afternoon.

Thursday morning, on the other hand, seemed to be the satellite format instead of the local morning show which sometimes sounds better than the satellite format these days. I have a whole thread about it.
 
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