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Rap music on CBS-FM??

I think the working my way back to you babe song, that's what. 64 or so? It sounds to me like they are moving closer twoard the 6's-80's Oldies moddel.
 
stevewillett said:
In regards to rap on CBS-FM, this reminds me of what's going on with some Classic Rock stations. Traditional Classic Rock stations being faced with playing Nirvana and Metallica. Ten years ago, most of our listeners had an issue with playing Guns N Roses. Now GNR is a staple of Classic Rock. But Nirvana is a completely different animal.

Depending on what CBS-FM is playing were the two songs by Guns & Roses are "Paradise City" and "Welcome to the Jungle".
 
John Holcomb II said:
Uh. clasic hits and putting 50's in the playlist sounds very strange to me.

Why not? 50's are classics... Would you play "Volare" after "Billie Jean"....probably not....maybe "Jailhouse Rock"....
 
stevewillett said:
CBS-FM creates such a buzz. Radio stations in general could take a lesson from CBS-FM.
Like K-Earth 101 and others. KRTH has improved since 2005, but lacks the real depth, such as a CBS-FM.

Have not heard a specialty on KRTH even remotely close to WCBS's big specials in years. I think KRTH did a top 1001 a few years back, but that's really it.
 
oldies76 said:
Like K-Earth 101 and others. KRTH has improved since 2005, but lacks the real depth, such as a CBS-FM.

KRTH has two SoCal unique qualities... first, half the audience is Hispanic, meaning that Hispanics are core to the research and that may make some songs that work in other markets unacceptable in LA. And... second, the station is programmed more like an AC than most oldies stations, also perhaps an LA market factor thing.

Have not heard a specialty on KRTH even remotely close to WCBS's big specials in years. I think KRTH did a top 1001 a few years back, but that's really it.

I think you mean a "special" as in a #1 weekend or a sufing weekend. A specialty show is something that is on regularly, such as, were it to exist, a do-wop show every Sunday at 9 PM.

KRTH used to have a feature every weekend... a British Invasion weekend, Surfing Weekend, etc., etc. They pretty much burnt the idea out, although it might be time to revive some of that.
 
oldies76 said:
Why not? 50's are classics...

They may be classics if you are over 65 or better yet over 70. Otherwise, they are songs you never heard as current hits, and may only have been exposed to as gold on a Top 40 station... meaning that they likely don't have, with few exceptions, the emotional ties with listeners any advertiser would want to reach.

Playing anything but a select few well separated 50's songs will make a station unsalable by blowing off all the useful listeners.
 
oldies76 said:
Why not? 50's are classics... Would you play "Volare" after "Billie Jean"....probably not....maybe "Jailhouse Rock"....

Depending on what you're listening to "Fox Oldies" right now, they played a lot of 50's music including doo-wop and a few others as well thrown in. WGNY never played any of these 80's stuff when it comes to the "Classic Countdown" show with Dick Bartley which is on every Sunday at 2:00 PM
 
I'm not saying that 50's isn't classic oldies. I just never thought of the classic hits approach being used with 50's in the playlist.
 
Turnpike Tuner said:
Jersey Maiden said:
That theory is already being applied to the Q. Last Thursday, I heard STP. Sometimes they play Chili Peppers (Under the Bridge), Nirvana and Pearl Jam. But I think out of all 90's acts, they play Black Crows the most. As a twenty-something, I like that but maybe some older listeners won't.

I heard Green Day on Q once, and thought "Wow, classic rock is getting younger!" Same thing that applies to Classic Hits is applying to classic rock...try and find newer songs that mesh with the core playlist to keep the demos on target.

Q is a interesting station - only classic rocker I know that plays "Superstition" by Stevie Wonder. That's something this twentysomething likes...along with the Black Crows (tho I do like the original Hard to Handle by Otis Redding a bit better).

Sometimes I wonder whether classic rock is getting young or am I just getting old. Disney is a completely different animal now than it was in the 90's. When 105.1's breakfast club was discussing why Lil Wayne sold more albums than Jay-Z and Kanye, I felt sad when a 13 year old called and said Wayne was a great artist. But we twentysomethings know that the caliber of even the mediocre rappers in general was better in the 90's and even the early 00's. Wayne, with zero sense of rythm shouldn't even be called a rapper. There's little difference between his a nd William Shatner's music, expect that Shatner doesn't take himself seriously.

Speaking of Black Crows, The Q and WDHA overplay Hard to Handle. Yesterday, I heard Remedy and I wish they'd play more of it.

Not sure what CR station(s) you listen to but my local CR station doesn't play Nirvana, Metallica or GnR. At least not often enough to notice. If they did I wouldn't listen to them.

Then don't move to New York. I haven't heard GnR or Metallica yet but the Q does play Nirvana. And it seems to work just fine for them. According to Wikipedia, Q104.3 is the #1 CR station in America.
 
The 4 Season "Sherry" is 1962 while "Working My Way Back to You" is 1965. On most "oldies" stations these days, "Sherry" would never be heard.

But both Gene Pitney and The 4 Seasons were extremely big in Conn. I remember hearing them llive one Saturday night on WPOP during a Hartford concert.
 
landtuna said:
"Standards" come from the 30's, 40's and 50's and even though some modern artists cover the old Standards they are not usually played alongside Sinatra, Crosby, etc.
Yes, actually they are. And the radio format called standards has a lot of AC as well as the songs that used to be called oldies.
 
vchimpanzee said:
landtuna said:
"Standards" come from the 30's, 40's and 50's and even though some modern artists cover the old Standards they are not usually played alongside Sinatra, Crosby, etc.
Yes, actually they are. And the radio format called standards has a lot of AC as well as the songs that used to be called oldies.

The fact that a PD plays music from multiple genre's does not change a specific song's genre. Josh Grobin covers Sinatra but his songs are not considered 'Standards' even though they be played alongside Sinatra, Crosby, Cornell etc.
 
CBS-FM has been a substantially more adventurous station far longer than KRTH has; their recent Thanksgiving weekend special in which they alphabetically played every #1 single (not sure what the years they included were) was phenomenal.

Furthermore, their 'All-Time Top 500' countdown has usually had substantially 'I haven't heard that song in ages tunes than KRTH airs when they do theirs; hearing 'Tracy' by the Cuff-Links, 'Thriller' and 'We Are The World' within a couple of hours of each other was astonishing, to put it mil
 
Marv-L.A. said:
CBS-FM has been a substantially more adventurous station far longer than KRTH has; their recent Thanksgiving weekend special in which they alphabetically played every #1 single (not sure what the years they included were) was phenomenal.

Mainly 1963-1989. Many songs from before 1963 were not played. Some 50's were played.


Marv-L.A. said:
Furthermore, their 'All-Time Top 500' countdown has usually had substantially 'I haven't heard that song in ages tunes than KRTH airs when they do theirs; hearing 'Tracy' by the Cuff-Links, 'Thriller' and 'We Are The World' within a couple of hours of each other was astonishing, to put it mil

KRTH just does not have the depth anymore to want to feature big specials like this..and when they do, it's just a rework of their existing rotation. Really, when was the last time anyone heard "We Are the World" on KRTH, 1985?
 
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