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What happened to Derek Black? Rare opening.
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honestly im surprised derek lasted as long as he did... heard lots of stories about dead air and he was required to vt for a long time... that was like 2 years ago... anyone know where he went to? gotta say as well that don/randy is a great guy to be around (never worked for him though)
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> honestly im surprised derek lasted as long as he did...
> heard lots of stories about dead air and he was required to
> vt for a long time... that was like 2 years ago... anyone
> know where he went to? gotta say as well that don/randy is a
> great guy to be around (never worked for him though)
>
Derek is a good guy, he has that don't give a *sh** attitude. I've known him a long time and he was once my PD. Good luck bro!
> heard lots of stories about dead air and he was required to
> vt for a long time... that was like 2 years ago... anyone
> know where he went to? gotta say as well that don/randy is a
> great guy to be around (never worked for him though)
>
Derek is a good guy, he has that don't give a *sh** attitude. I've known him a long time and he was once my PD. Good luck bro!
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interndj
Guest
So, where did Derek Black go?
> > honestly im surprised derek lasted as long as he did...
> > heard lots of stories about dead air and he was required
> to
> > vt for a long time... that was like 2 years ago... anyone
> > know where he went to? gotta say as well that don/randy is
> a
> > great guy to be around (never worked for him though)
> >
>
> Derek is a good guy, he has that don't give a *sh**
> attitude. I've known him a long time and he was once my PD.
> Good luck bro!
>
Anyone, anyone, Bueler, Bueler?
> > honestly im surprised derek lasted as long as he did...
> > heard lots of stories about dead air and he was required
> to
> > vt for a long time... that was like 2 years ago... anyone
> > know where he went to? gotta say as well that don/randy is
> a
> > great guy to be around (never worked for him though)
> >
>
> Derek is a good guy, he has that don't give a *sh**
> attitude. I've known him a long time and he was once my PD.
> Good luck bro!
>
Anyone, anyone, Bueler, Bueler?
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BMCGrad
Guest
Hiring Etiquette...Citadel Has None...
That rare opening is probably gone...I will be frank and to the point...I sent my materials in for this "position" I have yet to hear back...I know they probably already hired someone. However, as someone who applied shouldn't I have gotten a courtesy call or at least a call to let me know the status of my materials...absolutely I should have...It's common courtesy...maybe if half of you PD's, HR Managers, or whoever, actually made a point of calling someone to let them know that you have their stuff and it's being considered instead of leaving them in "limbo". you might actually get some people who would be able to say something positive about you and your station even if you don't hire that person....Instead you can catch me listening to 107.5 The Bear...
That rare opening is probably gone...I will be frank and to the point...I sent my materials in for this "position" I have yet to hear back...I know they probably already hired someone. However, as someone who applied shouldn't I have gotten a courtesy call or at least a call to let me know the status of my materials...absolutely I should have...It's common courtesy...maybe if half of you PD's, HR Managers, or whoever, actually made a point of calling someone to let them know that you have their stuff and it's being considered instead of leaving them in "limbo". you might actually get some people who would be able to say something positive about you and your station even if you don't hire that person....Instead you can catch me listening to 107.5 The Bear...
Etiquette Lesson
Son, time for you to grow up. Real job etiquette these days is that you send in your "materials", then make a follow-up phone call to confirm that your materials have been received. If you really want to press it, you try to set up an appointment with your prospective employer to get some "feedback" on your presentation.
It's a buyer's market. You're the seller. Unless you have a rep in the market, and have earned some respect, most PDs don't have the time to contact every wannabe who thinks they've got the chops. They're looking for people who stand out. You'd better rethink your position and try to figure out how to make your name float to the top of the list when the PD is deciding who to hire next. You've got to walk that thin line that separates "persistence" from "stalking".
Son, time for you to grow up. Real job etiquette these days is that you send in your "materials", then make a follow-up phone call to confirm that your materials have been received. If you really want to press it, you try to set up an appointment with your prospective employer to get some "feedback" on your presentation.
It's a buyer's market. You're the seller. Unless you have a rep in the market, and have earned some respect, most PDs don't have the time to contact every wannabe who thinks they've got the chops. They're looking for people who stand out. You'd better rethink your position and try to figure out how to make your name float to the top of the list when the PD is deciding who to hire next. You've got to walk that thin line that separates "persistence" from "stalking".
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interndj
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Persistance.
> That rare opening is probably gone...I will be frank and to
> the point...I sent my materials in for this "position" I
> have yet to hear back...I know they probably already hired
> someone. However, as someone who applied shouldn't I have
> gotten a courtesy call or at least a call to let me know the
> status of my materials...absolutely I should have...It's
> common courtesy...maybe if half of you PD's, HR Managers, or
> whoever, actually made a point of calling someone to let
> them know that you have their stuff and it's being
> considered instead of leaving them in "limbo". you might
> actually get some people who would be able to say something
> positive about you and your station even if you don't hire
> that person....Instead you can catch me listening to 107.5
> The Bear...
>
I read here you "sent" your materials. Why didn't you go there in person? No matter of your location. Case in point, the female jock on Fly 92 in Albany drove 2- 1/2 hours to personally hand her *materials* to John Foxx, and hired that day.
If you want the job that bad, go there in person. If the PD is in a meeting, you wait, and wait, etc. What materials did you send? How did you send it? I'm sure it didn't appeal. Did you direct it to the right person? Does a Don Morgan ring a bell?
You won't get the job because you didn't send it the right way, you weren't persistant, didn't probably follow up, etc..You must be on these guys 2-3 times a week. YOU are not on their mind, so you be on their's!
> That rare opening is probably gone...I will be frank and to
> the point...I sent my materials in for this "position" I
> have yet to hear back...I know they probably already hired
> someone. However, as someone who applied shouldn't I have
> gotten a courtesy call or at least a call to let me know the
> status of my materials...absolutely I should have...It's
> common courtesy...maybe if half of you PD's, HR Managers, or
> whoever, actually made a point of calling someone to let
> them know that you have their stuff and it's being
> considered instead of leaving them in "limbo". you might
> actually get some people who would be able to say something
> positive about you and your station even if you don't hire
> that person....Instead you can catch me listening to 107.5
> The Bear...
>
I read here you "sent" your materials. Why didn't you go there in person? No matter of your location. Case in point, the female jock on Fly 92 in Albany drove 2- 1/2 hours to personally hand her *materials* to John Foxx, and hired that day.
If you want the job that bad, go there in person. If the PD is in a meeting, you wait, and wait, etc. What materials did you send? How did you send it? I'm sure it didn't appeal. Did you direct it to the right person? Does a Don Morgan ring a bell?
You won't get the job because you didn't send it the right way, you weren't persistant, didn't probably follow up, etc..You must be on these guys 2-3 times a week. YOU are not on their mind, so you be on their's!
Re: Etiquette Lesson
Most places no longer acknowledge the fact that they've received resumes, applications etc... that is the common practice of today... you must follow up!
However, when I applied there two years ago (with eight years in the local market), I filled out the application, submitted my resume and a demo cd, and when I made a follow up call no one had any idea what I was talking about, but said they'd be more than happy to have me actually fill it out in house so it'd get directly to the right people, my response was... I did that last time. I just took that as a sign that they're completely disfunctional or not interested and decided to accept an offer elsewhere... that is life in the modern job market.<P ID="signature">______________
Can I sleep now?</P>
Most places no longer acknowledge the fact that they've received resumes, applications etc... that is the common practice of today... you must follow up!
However, when I applied there two years ago (with eight years in the local market), I filled out the application, submitted my resume and a demo cd, and when I made a follow up call no one had any idea what I was talking about, but said they'd be more than happy to have me actually fill it out in house so it'd get directly to the right people, my response was... I did that last time. I just took that as a sign that they're completely disfunctional or not interested and decided to accept an offer elsewhere... that is life in the modern job market.<P ID="signature">______________
Can I sleep now?</P>
The Art of the Interview
> However, when I applied there two years ago (with eight
> years in the local market), I filled out the application,
> submitted my resume and a demo cd, and when I made a follow
> up call no one had any idea what I was talking about, but
> said they'd be more than happy to have me actually fill it
> out in house so it'd get directly to the right people, my
> response was... I did that last time. I just took that as a
> sign that they're completely disfunctional or not interested
> and decided to accept an offer elsewhere... that is life in
> the modern job market.
If you had 8 years in the market and couldn't even get a cup of coffee from the PD, he's either seriously overworked or stupid. Even if I wasn't interested, I'd have you in so I could (subtly) pick your brain for info about the competition. It's always good to know as much as possible about your enemy. You almost always get a much more accurate picture of someone that you can store for present or future needs.
> However, when I applied there two years ago (with eight
> years in the local market), I filled out the application,
> submitted my resume and a demo cd, and when I made a follow
> up call no one had any idea what I was talking about, but
> said they'd be more than happy to have me actually fill it
> out in house so it'd get directly to the right people, my
> response was... I did that last time. I just took that as a
> sign that they're completely disfunctional or not interested
> and decided to accept an offer elsewhere... that is life in
> the modern job market.
If you had 8 years in the market and couldn't even get a cup of coffee from the PD, he's either seriously overworked or stupid. Even if I wasn't interested, I'd have you in so I could (subtly) pick your brain for info about the competition. It's always good to know as much as possible about your enemy. You almost always get a much more accurate picture of someone that you can store for present or future needs.
Re: Hiring Etiquette...Citadel Has None...
BMC Grad...it sounds like you "just don't get it." You're venting on a
radio enthusiast website about not being acknowleded for applying for a gig.
Normally, I don't even post on here, I just like to read whats happening in the
respective markets I've worked at (Binghamton being one of the earlier ones.) So before you rip into my response, think about what I say, I'm assuming I know more than you do. By your screename, I assume you're a new graduate hunting down a gig.
Radio is completely different than it was even 5 years ago. I started when I was 16 and it was shortly before voicetracking started creeping up. Programmers will get your package...you have 30 seconds to impress them. If they like that 30 secs, then they'll go to the next. If you don't, your CD jewel case is used as a door stopper. And if your still sending tapes instead of CD, you REALLY need to wake up. BOTTOM LINE, MOST (not all by any means) programmers will NOT even acknowledge your stuff unless THEY LIKE IT. If you don't hear back, you're probably not what their looking for. (Different sound) OR worst case scenario, they just think that you suck. There are NO ENTRY LEVEL jobs anymore,...especially in a small market like Binghamton. Entery level jobs that were there for me to train on, gone...voicetracked. Therefore, if you want to be on air,...you have to know EXACTLY what the PD wants. You have to know the sound of the station, the vibe of the station, the music, the core audience...repeat after me,- A COLLEGE DEGREE MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ANYMORE.
I'm not tearing into you, but its funny that some (not pointing the finger at you) of these new grads think that because they have a "good" college/demo tape & college diploma that they're going to walk into a 1st/2nd gig making big loot. No, not gonna happen. I'm on my 5th gig now, and I've worked my ass off to get where I am. Luckily I started young, and had the drive to get where I am now. You probably have that too, you're just sounding sour because you don't undersatnd how the radio industry works TODAY.
If a PD likes your stuff, HE'LL contact you. If he doesn't within a short period of time, email him. No response, send another package...and another, and another. Do everything short of pissing him off. There is no law saying that they have to respond to all inquiries...and if your talking about courtesy- its called radio...the most backstabbing, lieing, firing industry in entertainment short of Hollywood. Same idea, lower level. BTW- If you're sending packages to the HR dept, you need to get your ass in line and find out who the PD is. Know what his favorite baseball team is and throw in a hat in the package. MAKE HIM REMEMBER YOU. I've wasted hundreds of $$$$ on overnighting packages. Gig opens at 4PM that day, my package is sitting there on his desk at 10AM. Even if the PD thinks your "bad," but you sound like you have potential (again in a smaller or medium market only) they'll consider you....and put your stuff in the "Maybe" bin. There is the rare case where a PD will acknowledge and email/call every applicant. This is a 1/100 chance. Todays programmers are simply too busy programming, adding records, on the horn with record reps, reading callout, initiating NTR events, fighting with sales people, hotlining jocks, fighting with promotions, and in my rare case....golfing a couple times a week.
I don't know everything and I'm not trying to be a smartass here, but I AM trying to offer you some advice on what I've picked up.
(PS- I talked to a PD the other day at a GREAT station that I worked at years after I left Binghamton; He has a jock opening,....so far he's received about 75 tapes after it was on ALL ACCESS....he's kept ONE TAPE. Even that guy, "wasn't that great..." he said. Bottom line....be extremely agressive, be assertive, know who your trying to impress more than just writing "I can be a valuable team player to your radio station" in your cover letter, and most of all never give up. I hope I've helped you out. -A Friend.
> That rare opening is probably gone...I will be frank and to
> the point...I sent my materials in for this "position" I
> have yet to hear back...I know they probably already hired
> someone. However, as someone who applied shouldn't I have
> gotten a courtesy call or at least a call to let me know the
> status of my materials...absolutely I should have...It's
> common courtesy...maybe if half of you PD's, HR Managers, or
> whoever, actually made a point of calling someone to let
> them know that you have their stuff and it's being
> considered instead of leaving them in "limbo". you might
> actually get some people who would be able to say something
> positive about you and your station even if you don't hire
> that person....Instead you can catch me listening to 107.5
> The Bear...
>
BMC Grad...it sounds like you "just don't get it." You're venting on a
radio enthusiast website about not being acknowleded for applying for a gig.
Normally, I don't even post on here, I just like to read whats happening in the
respective markets I've worked at (Binghamton being one of the earlier ones.) So before you rip into my response, think about what I say, I'm assuming I know more than you do. By your screename, I assume you're a new graduate hunting down a gig.
Radio is completely different than it was even 5 years ago. I started when I was 16 and it was shortly before voicetracking started creeping up. Programmers will get your package...you have 30 seconds to impress them. If they like that 30 secs, then they'll go to the next. If you don't, your CD jewel case is used as a door stopper. And if your still sending tapes instead of CD, you REALLY need to wake up. BOTTOM LINE, MOST (not all by any means) programmers will NOT even acknowledge your stuff unless THEY LIKE IT. If you don't hear back, you're probably not what their looking for. (Different sound) OR worst case scenario, they just think that you suck. There are NO ENTRY LEVEL jobs anymore,...especially in a small market like Binghamton. Entery level jobs that were there for me to train on, gone...voicetracked. Therefore, if you want to be on air,...you have to know EXACTLY what the PD wants. You have to know the sound of the station, the vibe of the station, the music, the core audience...repeat after me,- A COLLEGE DEGREE MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ANYMORE.
I'm not tearing into you, but its funny that some (not pointing the finger at you) of these new grads think that because they have a "good" college/demo tape & college diploma that they're going to walk into a 1st/2nd gig making big loot. No, not gonna happen. I'm on my 5th gig now, and I've worked my ass off to get where I am. Luckily I started young, and had the drive to get where I am now. You probably have that too, you're just sounding sour because you don't undersatnd how the radio industry works TODAY.
If a PD likes your stuff, HE'LL contact you. If he doesn't within a short period of time, email him. No response, send another package...and another, and another. Do everything short of pissing him off. There is no law saying that they have to respond to all inquiries...and if your talking about courtesy- its called radio...the most backstabbing, lieing, firing industry in entertainment short of Hollywood. Same idea, lower level. BTW- If you're sending packages to the HR dept, you need to get your ass in line and find out who the PD is. Know what his favorite baseball team is and throw in a hat in the package. MAKE HIM REMEMBER YOU. I've wasted hundreds of $$$$ on overnighting packages. Gig opens at 4PM that day, my package is sitting there on his desk at 10AM. Even if the PD thinks your "bad," but you sound like you have potential (again in a smaller or medium market only) they'll consider you....and put your stuff in the "Maybe" bin. There is the rare case where a PD will acknowledge and email/call every applicant. This is a 1/100 chance. Todays programmers are simply too busy programming, adding records, on the horn with record reps, reading callout, initiating NTR events, fighting with sales people, hotlining jocks, fighting with promotions, and in my rare case....golfing a couple times a week.
I don't know everything and I'm not trying to be a smartass here, but I AM trying to offer you some advice on what I've picked up.
(PS- I talked to a PD the other day at a GREAT station that I worked at years after I left Binghamton; He has a jock opening,....so far he's received about 75 tapes after it was on ALL ACCESS....he's kept ONE TAPE. Even that guy, "wasn't that great..." he said. Bottom line....be extremely agressive, be assertive, know who your trying to impress more than just writing "I can be a valuable team player to your radio station" in your cover letter, and most of all never give up. I hope I've helped you out. -A Friend.
> That rare opening is probably gone...I will be frank and to
> the point...I sent my materials in for this "position" I
> have yet to hear back...I know they probably already hired
> someone. However, as someone who applied shouldn't I have
> gotten a courtesy call or at least a call to let me know the
> status of my materials...absolutely I should have...It's
> common courtesy...maybe if half of you PD's, HR Managers, or
> whoever, actually made a point of calling someone to let
> them know that you have their stuff and it's being
> considered instead of leaving them in "limbo". you might
> actually get some people who would be able to say something
> positive about you and your station even if you don't hire
> that person....Instead you can catch me listening to 107.5
> The Bear...
>
Re: Hiring Etiquette; Bravo!
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Best thread on this board in months and superb advice from Superstar and Sir Roxalot. Bravo to you for giving advice in a fair and right-minded manner.
I would only advise, since I spent many years knocking on doors and doing news, jocking, production and even sales (though I'm no longer in the business by my choice) that the "in person" method of getting material to a PD is the best.
Make sure you look good, sound good and know exactly how you're going to present yourself in the thirty seconds of face time you might be lucky enough to get with a harried, over-worked, frazzled, coffee-jagged PD or OM. Always dress "up," not down. It's easier to take a tie off than it is to put one on (especially if you don't have one) in the reception area. Oh, and shine your friggin' shoes! You cannot imagine how incomplete you look when you walk in with a good suit or decent blazer and your shoes look like you just returned from Iraq. Kiwi, Shinola, Esquire... a buck 39, some clean cloths and a shoe brush. It's a small investment.
Understand that the receptionist-secretary at the desk is your best friend or worst enemy. Treat her with respect and courtesy. Do not fawn over her. Do not blow smoke up her skirt. She can spot a phony in three seconds. Remember, she works in radio. (Here, it helps to recall any one of many episodes of WKRP in Cincinnati) If she's busy doing 17 things at once, do not pry or attempt to ellicit information. Help her to like and recognize you as the professional and "good guy" (or woman) that you are.
Know the format, the station, the PD. If you get a face-to-face, you're in reach of the brass ring. Don't fall off the horse attempting to grab it. Allow the PD to talk to you if he's in talking mode. Shut up and listen when he speaks... and wait for him to finish his sentences before you jump in with a knowing answer. The worst thing you can do is be in "transmit" mode when he's transmitting. It jams communication. Interview over.
Good luck to you. Stay at it. You will succeed.
One more question, "Why didn't you major in accounting like your mother wanted?"</font>
<font face="times new roman" size="3" color="330066">
Best thread on this board in months and superb advice from Superstar and Sir Roxalot. Bravo to you for giving advice in a fair and right-minded manner.
I would only advise, since I spent many years knocking on doors and doing news, jocking, production and even sales (though I'm no longer in the business by my choice) that the "in person" method of getting material to a PD is the best.
Make sure you look good, sound good and know exactly how you're going to present yourself in the thirty seconds of face time you might be lucky enough to get with a harried, over-worked, frazzled, coffee-jagged PD or OM. Always dress "up," not down. It's easier to take a tie off than it is to put one on (especially if you don't have one) in the reception area. Oh, and shine your friggin' shoes! You cannot imagine how incomplete you look when you walk in with a good suit or decent blazer and your shoes look like you just returned from Iraq. Kiwi, Shinola, Esquire... a buck 39, some clean cloths and a shoe brush. It's a small investment.
Understand that the receptionist-secretary at the desk is your best friend or worst enemy. Treat her with respect and courtesy. Do not fawn over her. Do not blow smoke up her skirt. She can spot a phony in three seconds. Remember, she works in radio. (Here, it helps to recall any one of many episodes of WKRP in Cincinnati) If she's busy doing 17 things at once, do not pry or attempt to ellicit information. Help her to like and recognize you as the professional and "good guy" (or woman) that you are.
Know the format, the station, the PD. If you get a face-to-face, you're in reach of the brass ring. Don't fall off the horse attempting to grab it. Allow the PD to talk to you if he's in talking mode. Shut up and listen when he speaks... and wait for him to finish his sentences before you jump in with a knowing answer. The worst thing you can do is be in "transmit" mode when he's transmitting. It jams communication. Interview over.
Good luck to you. Stay at it. You will succeed.
One more question, "Why didn't you major in accounting like your mother wanted?"</font>
Re: Hiring Etiquette...Citadel Has None...
In addition to the excellent advice others have given, please let me add my .02.
I canvassed the Binghamtom market years ago when I was starting out. I was born in Endicott and had family there, so I added it to my list to places to canvass.
And that's what you have to do, just like a politician canvassing for votes. The PD should know you before you even send a CD and resume.
One of the PD's that took the time to chew the fat, even though I was a newbie and he had no openings, was the PD of WAAL who is still the PD today. He gave me some great insight into the market and other doors to knock on.
Very soon after, I got a job in a much larger market, but by canvassing, my trip netted me a job offer at the #1 station (The Hawk) that I ultimately had to turn down (paid less than my production grunt gig in Charlotte).
Make those calls BEFORE they advertize and opening. Nobody will hire you in radio if they don't know you.
In addition to the excellent advice others have given, please let me add my .02.
I canvassed the Binghamtom market years ago when I was starting out. I was born in Endicott and had family there, so I added it to my list to places to canvass.
And that's what you have to do, just like a politician canvassing for votes. The PD should know you before you even send a CD and resume.
One of the PD's that took the time to chew the fat, even though I was a newbie and he had no openings, was the PD of WAAL who is still the PD today. He gave me some great insight into the market and other doors to knock on.
Very soon after, I got a job in a much larger market, but by canvassing, my trip netted me a job offer at the #1 station (The Hawk) that I ultimately had to turn down (paid less than my production grunt gig in Charlotte).
Make those calls BEFORE they advertize and opening. Nobody will hire you in radio if they don't know you.
I
interndj
Guest
Re: Hiring Etiquette...Citadel Has None...
> > One of the PD's that took the time to chew the fat, even
> though I was a newbie and he had no openings, was the PD of
> WAAL who is still the PD today. He gave me some great
> insight into the market and other doors to knock on.
>
I need to respond. I too years ago got to know the PD of the Whale on a personal level. After a year or so of knowing him and about him did I present him with my "samples" and Resume. He never hired me. To this day, we're talking now 10 years or so, I never knew why he never hired me.
I can tell you that I would still be there today, but now I live in a different city, I could care less.
I guess some things are better left unknown.
If I EVER hit the Big Lotto, watch out!
> > One of the PD's that took the time to chew the fat, even
> though I was a newbie and he had no openings, was the PD of
> WAAL who is still the PD today. He gave me some great
> insight into the market and other doors to knock on.
>
I need to respond. I too years ago got to know the PD of the Whale on a personal level. After a year or so of knowing him and about him did I present him with my "samples" and Resume. He never hired me. To this day, we're talking now 10 years or so, I never knew why he never hired me.
I can tell you that I would still be there today, but now I live in a different city, I could care less.
I guess some things are better left unknown.
If I EVER hit the Big Lotto, watch out!
P
Poppinjay
Guest
Re: Hiring Etiquette...Citadel Has None...
> I need to respond. I too years ago got to know the PD of the
> Whale on a personal level. After a year or so of knowing him
> and about him did I present him with my "samples" and
> Resume. He never hired me. To this day, we're talking now 10
> years or so, I never knew why he never hired me.
>
> I can tell you that I would still be there today, but now I
> live in a different city, I could care less.
>
> I guess some things are better left unknown.
>
> If I EVER hit the Big Lotto, watch out!
I changed that philosophy once I started hitting major markets. I stopped letting things be unknown and started asking what I could do to knock down their doors. Some never respond, some are delighted that I want to know how to get to their audience.
I do know that openings at WAAL, like you said, are rare. A rare opening in a small market like Binghamton is almost unique. People really aren't turning themsleves inside out to be on the air in a market that size. I would guess they get a hundred or so apps for every opening. And the PD has been there since the Hot FM days, and knows more radio folks than I'll ever know.
> I need to respond. I too years ago got to know the PD of the
> Whale on a personal level. After a year or so of knowing him
> and about him did I present him with my "samples" and
> Resume. He never hired me. To this day, we're talking now 10
> years or so, I never knew why he never hired me.
>
> I can tell you that I would still be there today, but now I
> live in a different city, I could care less.
>
> I guess some things are better left unknown.
>
> If I EVER hit the Big Lotto, watch out!
I changed that philosophy once I started hitting major markets. I stopped letting things be unknown and started asking what I could do to knock down their doors. Some never respond, some are delighted that I want to know how to get to their audience.
I do know that openings at WAAL, like you said, are rare. A rare opening in a small market like Binghamton is almost unique. People really aren't turning themsleves inside out to be on the air in a market that size. I would guess they get a hundred or so apps for every opening. And the PD has been there since the Hot FM days, and knows more radio folks than I'll ever know.
Re: So, where did Derek Black go?
> > Derek is a good guy, he has that don't give a *sh**
> > attitude. I've known him a long time and he was once my
> PD.
> > Good luck bro!
> >
>
> Anyone, anyone, Bueler, Bueler?
>
Derek was a great guy and friend of mine. He has not contacted anyone including myself since he left. Sucks too. Although, a friend has told me he is at Dunkin Donuts in Endicott. Since he's had extensive management experiance I imagine that's a true statement.
> > Derek is a good guy, he has that don't give a *sh**
> > attitude. I've known him a long time and he was once my
> PD.
> > Good luck bro!
> >
>
> Anyone, anyone, Bueler, Bueler?
>
Derek was a great guy and friend of mine. He has not contacted anyone including myself since he left. Sucks too. Although, a friend has told me he is at Dunkin Donuts in Endicott. Since he's had extensive management experiance I imagine that's a true statement.
I worked at the WAAL years ago. At one point Derek and I did combo shifts together back in the day. Long before the Citadel merger (remember Butternut Broadcasting?). Anyway, if anyone runs into Derek, ask him to give me a call. I'd love to catch up with him.JJ
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