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Ratings are in...

B

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(All 12+ so you sales nuts post your usual "but we're #5 W35-49." Moral victories are acceptable)

KESS is #1 12+ with KKDA and KPLX #2 & #3 respectively.

Jack is down slightly to a 2.6.

WBAP is taking a beating. Down over a full point since last fall (5.2-4.1)
The Beat off a full point (4.4 - 3.3)

KLUV was up a couple ticks, possibly due to the pub generated by Chapman's departure. (3.1 - 3.5)

The Ticket (3.1) and Live 105.3 (2.4) held steady.

KSCS got a nice little half point bump (3.3 - 3.8)

As predicted KDBN, KLIF, and KTYS still suck.

I need to eat my words. I said KXEB wouldn't show. They did...barely (0.5). Not enough to justify their existence, however. Give 'em one more book before killing them off...hell ABC's wasted 7 books on The Twister.
 
Re: Ratings are in...RMS Version

> (All 12+ so you sales nuts post your usual "but we're #5
> W35-49." Moral victories are acceptable)
>
> KESS is #1 12+ with KKDA and KPLX #2 & #3 respectively.
>
> Jack is down slightly to a 2.6.
>
> WBAP is taking a beating. Down over a full point since last
> fall (5.2-4.1)
> The Beat off a full point (4.4 - 3.3)
>
> KLUV was up a couple ticks, possibly due to the pub
> generated by Chapman's departure. (3.1 - 3.5)
>
> The Ticket (3.1) and Live 105.3 (2.4) held steady.
>
> KSCS got a nice little half point bump (3.3 - 3.8)
>
> As predicted KDBN, KLIF, and KTYS still suck.
>
> I need to eat my words. I said KXEB wouldn't show. They
> did...barely (0.5). Not enough to justify their existence,
> however. Give 'em one more book before killing them
> off...hell ABC's wasted 7 books on The Twister.
>

I listened to Russ Martin for about an hour today and he spent a few minutes on how unreliable the rating systems is and going back over those bad months that were just flukes.
He then spent the rest of the hour talking about the 18+ male numbers and read all of them from #10 (Ticket) up to number #1 (Him) and crowed and laughed endlessly about his 13 share.
So Russ is just like everyone else in radio. When the numbers are bad, it's a stupid system and any downward trend is a fluke. When the numbers are up, it's get on the air and shout about how wonderful you are.
 
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> > (All 12+ so you sales nuts post your usual "but we're #5
> > W35-49." Moral victories are acceptable)
> >
> > KESS is #1 12+ with KKDA and KPLX #2 & #3 respectively.
> >
> > Jack is down slightly to a 2.6.
> >
> > WBAP is taking a beating. Down over a full point since
> last
> > fall (5.2-4.1)
> > The Beat off a full point (4.4 - 3.3)
> >
> > KLUV was up a couple ticks, possibly due to the pub
> > generated by Chapman's departure. (3.1 - 3.5)
> >
> > The Ticket (3.1) and Live 105.3 (2.4) held steady.
> >
> > KSCS got a nice little half point bump (3.3 - 3.8)
> >
> > As predicted KDBN, KLIF, and KTYS still suck.
> >
> > I need to eat my words. I said KXEB wouldn't show. They
> > did...barely (0.5). Not enough to justify their
> existence,
> > however. Give 'em one more book before killing them
> > off...hell ABC's wasted 7 books on The Twister.
> >
>
> I listened to Russ Martin for about an hour today and he
> spent a few minutes on how unreliable the rating systems is
> and going back over those bad months that were just flukes.
>
> He then spent the rest of the hour talking about the 18+
> male numbers and read all of them from #10 (Ticket) up to
> number #1 (Him) and crowed and laughed endlessly about his
> 13 share.
> So Russ is just like everyone else in radio. When the
> numbers are bad, it's a stupid system and any downward trend
> is a fluke. When the numbers are up, it's get on the air
> and shout about how wonderful you are.
>

Russ is such a good little mullet. He really believes his own press doesn't he?
What a sad little man.
 
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> So Russ is just like everyone else in radio. When the
> numbers are bad, it's a stupid system and any downward trend
> is a fluke. When the numbers are up, it's get on the air
> and shout about how wonderful you are.


Russ has an ego like most of us in radio. Besides, isn't that what the majority of his demo would do? I think so. I think Russ puts on a great show and nails the demo he is going after. I'm not bowing at Russ' throne, but pray tell, isn't a 13 share in market #5 a pretty decent accomplishment?
 
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I don't know. Maybe Russ should have blown some more stuff up in Gavin's office. Or have more people laugh off mic to make his nascar circus seem like entertainment. But what do I know...I liked Don and Mike!

Hey, how were P & K's numbers???????<P ID="signature">______________
WG</P>
 
> I need to eat my words. I said KXEB wouldn't show. They
> did...barely (0.5). Not enough to justify their existence,
> however. Give 'em one more book before killing them
> off...

Considering that this is a 1 kw AM signal with a transmitter site off of 380 near Little Elm, this isn't a bad start. Especially when one considers the almost total lack of promotion this station has received. If anyone wants to suggest programming that could run on this signal without any promotion and get better ratings, I'd be curious to hear what that programming might be.

For comparison, consider that conservative talker KSKY/660 has a much better signal, billboards all over town...and a 0.7 share.
 
> Considering that this is a 1 kw AM signal with a transmitter
> site off of 380 near Little Elm, this isn't a bad start.
> Especially when one considers the almost total lack of
> promotion this station has received. If anyone wants to
> suggest programming that could run on this signal without
> any promotion and get better ratings, I'd be curious to hear
> what that programming might be.
>
> For comparison, consider that conservative talker KSKY/660
> has a much better signal, billboards all over town...and a
> 0.7 share.
>
I agree Tom, but the station isn't living up to its full potential. The 2004 election returns show there's a decent market for the station here but the 2 biggest problems are a weak southern signal when a LOT of the target audience is south Dallas and a company with a penny-pinching attitude right up there with the Cheap Channels of the world.

Tom Castro, BMP's head honcho, even said in a DMN interview a while back that radio is a cash cow. That's all he sees it as. So it makes sense that KXEB is being run by incompetent dumbasses working for minimum wage and the station isn't being promoted.
 
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>
> Russ has an ego like most of us in radio. Besides, isn't
> that what the majority of his demo would do? I think so. I
> think Russ puts on a great show and nails the demo he is
> going after. I'm not bowing at Russ' throne, but pray tell,
> isn't a 13 share in market #5 a pretty decent
> accomplishment?
>



(Those that bash Mr. Martin's success are just jealous, and rightly so. He has done something that many have not been able to do.)

Considering that the share of the RMS has been growing - except for a couple of fluke months here and there - consistently since he went to afternoons, yes, it is quite an accomplishment.

When you have two months with a 12 share, one month with a 3 share, and then the next month shows a 12 share again, that means that the 3 was a fluke. Many, when looking at the numbers, only look at the trend or book that is right in front of them and do not look at the bigger picture.

I would like to see someone take the numbers for the last year, average them, and determine gains and losses that way. This would show a much more reliable determination of the listening habits of Market #5.<P ID="signature">______________
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> >
> > Russ has an ego like most of us in radio. Besides, isn't
> > that what the majority of his demo would do? I think so.
> I
> > think Russ puts on a great show and nails the demo he is
> > going after. I'm not bowing at Russ' throne, but pray
> tell,
> > isn't a 13 share in market #5 a pretty decent
> > accomplishment?
> >
>
>
>
> (Those that bash Mr. Martin's success are just jealous, and
> rightly so. He has done something that many have not been
> able to do.)
>
> Considering that the share of the RMS has been growing -
> except for a couple of fluke months here and there -
> consistently since he went to afternoons, yes, it is quite
> an accomplishment.
>
> When you have two months with a 12 share, one month with a 3
> share, and then the next month shows a 12 share again, that
> means that the 3 was a fluke. Many, when looking at the
> numbers, only look at the trend or book that is right in
> front of them and do not look at the bigger picture.
>
> I would like to see someone take the numbers for the last
> year, average them, and determine gains and losses that way.
> This would show a much more reliable determination of the
> listening habits of Market #5.


Congratulations!

You just demonstrated a total lack of how Arbitron works.

And you did it in front of all your peers.
 
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>
> Congratulations!
>
> You just demonstrated a total lack of how Arbitron works.
>
> And you did it in front of all your peers.
>



Congratulations! You just demonstrated your a total lack of basic English writing skills. And you did it in front of all your peers.

(Ain't my peers... I am not currently employed by any broadcast company.)

I'm sure you meant to say that I was demonstrating a total lack of knowlege about how Arbitron works. I understand, though. I've acquired the ability to translate. "It's OK that you don't smart sometimes."

I know how Arbitron works. We all know how Arbitron works. We all know that Arbitron is inherently flawed. Anyone who says that Arbitron is flawless and constantly represents the actualy listening preferences of the people is either stupid or on the Arbitron payroll.

Based on your writing skills, I would say that you... well... hmmm... could go either way, couldn't it?<P ID="signature">______________
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Read all about it! Bingo is an Arbitron expert

> >
> > Congratulations!
> >
> > You just demonstrated a total lack of how Arbitron works.
> >
> > And you did it in front of all your peers.


(Sorry, right here I inadvertantly erased your comments about my English.)

I meant to say ignorance ... I apologize Dumbo, I mean Bingo.


> (Ain't my peers... I am not currently employed by any
> broadcast company.)


But they WERE your peers?

Who are your peers now?

Who wants to bet he won't say?


> I'm sure you meant to say that I was demonstrating a total
> lack of knowlege about how Arbitron works.


Haven't you learned to use quotation marks when quoting someone?

No, meant to say that "YOU just demonstrated ignorance of how Arbitron works".

Just like you stated above, "Congratulations! You just demonstrated your a total lack of basic English writing skills."

I'm sure you meant to leave out the extraneous "a" after the word "your".

Should I chalk it up to English skills or a typo? You're choice, Dumbo, I mean Bingo.


> I know how Arbitron works.


Oh, I'm sure you do.


> We all know how Arbitron works.


Yeah, my 70-year-old neighbor is an Arbitron whiz.


> We all know that Arbitron is inherently flawed.


I suspect it may be. You don't know that for certain.

Proof it.

> Anyone who says that Arbitron is flawless

Name something or someone flawless ... well other than yourself.


> and constantly represents the
> actualy (what's that word, Mr. MacGee) listening preferences of the people is either stupid or on the Arbitron payroll.


Bingo, Bingo that sentence is a little weak.

I never heard anyone ever say that -- except you.


Just because your station did not do so well is no reason to pout, Mr. Dumbo ... sorry Bingo. B-I-N-G-O.
 
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Well, since you are a fan of micro-fisking, I shall reply in kind...

> (Sorry, right here I inadvertantly erased your comments
> about my English.)
>
> I meant to say ignorance ... I apologize Dumbo, I mean
> Bingo.

Ouch. Man... that hurts... I haven't been called "Dumbo" since 5th grade.

> But they WERE your peers?
>
> Who are your peers now?
>
> Who wants to bet he won't say?

Yes, they were my peers. Past tense. Now, my peers are computer geeks, web designers, the clergy, and every person of above average intelligence in the Metroplex. I'm quite happy that you do not retain membership in any of those groups.

> Haven't you learned to use quotation marks when quoting
> someone?
>

I wasn't quoting you.

> No, meant to say that "YOU just demonstrated ignorance of
> how Arbitron works".
> Just like you stated above, "Congratulations! You just
> demonstrated your a total lack of basic English writing
> skills."
> I'm sure you meant to leave out the extraneous "a" after the
> word "your".
> Should I chalk it up to English skills or a typo? You're
> choice, Dumbo, I mean Bingo.

Or perhaps you should read the rest of the paragraph and realize that I was satirizing your post by posting incorrect grammar.

>
> Yeah, my 70-year-old neighbor is an Arbitron whiz.
>

"We", as I used the word, was meant to include members Radio-Info.com. I know that the average listener is about as knowlegable about the Arbitron system as you are about personal hygiene. I'm sorry if that part was confusing.

> I suspect it may be. You don't know that for certain.
>
> Proof it.

Well, if you would like to see my calculations that determine the falability of such a system, or my "proof", then I guess I could go ahead and proof it. If, however, you want me to "prove" it, I would require data that I do not currently have.

> Name something or someone flawless ... well other than
> yourself.

I am admittedly flawed. I have never claimed flawlessness.

>
>
> > and constantly represents the
> > actualy (what's that word, Mr. MacGee) listening
> preferences of the people is either stupid or on the
> Arbitron payroll.
>

Oops. One typo. I must now perform sepuku! AAAAAIIIIGGGGH!

>
> I never heard anyone ever say that -- except you.
>

You should perhaps listen more, then...

>
> Just because your station did not do so well is no reason to
> pout, Mr. Dumbo ... sorry Bingo. B-I-N-G-O.


You have just nullified any attempt at making a point. I have stated dozens of times that I am not currently employed by an broadcast company. I don't have a station.

Also, the absolutely remedial use of "Dumbo" remarks are quite stinging. Please keep hurling such infantile insults... I might just run home crying.<P ID="signature">______________
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Re: Ratings

> Well, since you are a fan of micro-fisking, I shall reply in
> kind...
>
> > (Sorry, right here I inadvertantly erased your comments
> > about my English.)
> >
> > I meant to say ignorance ... I apologize Dumbo, I mean
> > Bingo.
>
> Ouch. Man... that hurts... I haven't been called "Dumbo"
> since 5th grade.
>
> > But they WERE your peers?
> >
> > Who are your peers now?
> >
> > Who wants to bet he won't say?
>
> Yes, they were my peers. Past tense. Now, my peers are
> computer geeks, web designers, the clergy, and every person
> of above average intelligence in the Metroplex. I'm quite
> happy that you do not retain membership in any of those
> groups.
>
> > Haven't you learned to use quotation marks when quoting
> > someone?
> >
>
> I wasn't quoting you.
>
> > No, meant to say that "YOU just demonstrated ignorance of
> > how Arbitron works".
> > Just like you stated above, "Congratulations! You just
> > demonstrated your a total lack of basic English writing
> > skills."
> > I'm sure you meant to leave out the extraneous "a" after
> the
> > word "your".
> > Should I chalk it up to English skills or a typo? You're
> > choice, Dumbo, I mean Bingo.
>
> Or perhaps you should read the rest of the paragraph and
> realize that I was satirizing your post by posting incorrect
> grammar.
>
> >
> > Yeah, my 70-year-old neighbor is an Arbitron whiz.
> >
>
> "We", as I used the word, was meant to include members
> Radio-Info.com. I know that the average listener is about
> as knowlegable about the Arbitron system as you are about
> personal hygiene. I'm sorry if that part was confusing.
>
> > I suspect it may be. You don't know that for certain.
> >
> > Proof it.
>
> Well, if you would like to see my calculations that
> determine the falability of such a system, or my "proof",
> then I guess I could go ahead and proof it. If, however,
> you want me to "prove" it, I would require data that I do
> not currently have.
>
> > Name something or someone flawless ... well other than
> > yourself.
>
> I am admittedly flawed. I have never claimed flawlessness.
>
> >
> >
> > > and constantly represents the
> > > actualy (what's that word, Mr. MacGee) listening
> > preferences of the people is either stupid or on the
> > Arbitron payroll.
> >
>
> Oops. One typo. I must now perform sepuku!
> AAAAAIIIIGGGGH!
>
> >
> > I never heard anyone ever say that -- except you.
> >
>
> You should perhaps listen more, then...
>
> >
> > Just because your station did not do so well is no reason
> to
> > pout, Mr. Dumbo ... sorry Bingo. B-I-N-G-O.
>
>
> You have just nullified any attempt at making a point. I
> have stated dozens of times that I am not currently employed
> by an broadcast company. I don't have a station.
>
> Also, the absolutely remedial use of "Dumbo" remarks are
> quite stinging. Please keep hurling such infantile
> insults... I might just run home crying.
>
Bingo, ignore em. Like you, im a former broadcast employee now in the IT field and also hang out in the "Higher Brain" circles here in the D/FW area. I dont take people "batman" (or whatever his "real" name is) too seriously because he's prolly some loser board op working out of Pigsknuckle, Arkansas with aspirations to be something he isnt. I agree with you wholeheartly, Arbi's are innacurate in their tracking of real listeners.
 
Re: Ratings

> Well, since you are a fan of micro-fisking, I shall reply in
> kind...
>
> > (Sorry, right here I inadvertantly erased your comments
> > about my English.)
> >
> > I meant to say ignorance ... I apologize Dumbo, I mean
> > Bingo.
>
> Ouch. Man... that hurts... I haven't been called "Dumbo"
> since 5th grade.


What's wrong with your ears?


>
> > But they WERE your peers?
> >
> > Who are your peers now?
> >
> > Who wants to bet he won't say?
>
> Yes, they were my peers. Past tense. Now, my peers are
> computer geeks, web designers, the clergy, and every person
> of above average intelligence in the Metroplex. I'm quite
> happy that you do not retain membership in any of those
> groups.


How do you know that I don't?

Are you psychic?


>
> > Haven't you learned to use quotation marks when quoting
> > someone?
> >
>
> I wasn't quoting you.


You were trying ... unsuccessfully.


>
> > No, meant to say that "YOU just demonstrated ignorance of
> > how Arbitron works".
> > Just like you stated above, "Congratulations! You just
> > demonstrated your a total lack of basic English writing
> > skills."
> > I'm sure you meant to leave out the extraneous "a" after
> the
> > word "your".
> > Should I chalk it up to English skills or a typo? You're
> > choice, Dumbo, I mean Bingo.
>
> Or perhaps you should read the rest of the paragraph and
> realize that I was satirizing your post by posting incorrect
> grammar.


Yeah right ... that extra "a" stood out like a sore thumb -- to any English teacher or journalism professor.



>
> >
> > Yeah, my 70-year-old neighbor is an Arbitron whiz.
> >
>
> "We", as I used the word, was meant to include members
> Radio-Info.com. I know that the average listener is about
> as knowlegable about the Arbitron system as you are about
> personal hygiene.


I'm guessing you're about 5'4 to 5'5" and 260.

Close?

>I'm sorry if that part was confusing.


Well, civility.



>
> > I suspect it may be. You don't know that for certain.
> >
> > Proof it.
>
> Well, if you would like to see my calculations that
> determine the falability (HEY FALLIBILITY, COME ON NOW Bingo) of such a system, or my "proof",
> then I guess I could go ahead and proof it. If, however,
> you want me to "prove" it, I would require data that I do
> not currently have.


In other words, you can't proof it?


> > Name something or someone flawless ... well other than
> > yourself.
>
> I am admittedly flawed. I have never claimed flawlessness.
>
> >
> >
> > > and constantly represents the
> > > actualy (what's that word, Mr. MacGee) listening
> > preferences of the people is either stupid or on the
> > Arbitron payroll.
> >
>
> Oops. One typo. I must now perform sepuku!
> AAAAAIIIIGGGGH!
>
> >
> > I never heard anyone ever say that -- except you.
> >
>
> You should perhaps listen more, then...
>
> >
> > Just because your station did not do so well is no reason
> to
> > pout, Mr. Dumbo ... sorry Bingo. B-I-N-G-O.
>
>
> You have just nullified any attempt at making a point. I
> have stated dozens of times that I am not currently employed
> by an broadcast company. I don't have a station.
>
> Also, the absolutely remedial use of "Dumbo" remarks are
> quite stinging. Please keep hurling such infantile
> insults... I might just run home crying.


Just for that ... I am going to call you Bingo?

And you can't go home, you have to see all the clergy, the geeks and all the above intellgent people in Dallas today.

Finally my headlines are better ...
"Ratings" at the top is lame

How about "Batman and Bingo battle!"

Your OK is what it takes

OK OK ... you get first billing ...
 
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> Well, since you are a fan of micro-fisking, I shall reply in
> kind...
>
> > (Sorry, right here I inadvertantly erased your comments
> > about my English.)
> >
> > I meant to say ignorance ... I apologize Dumbo, I mean
> > Bingo.
>
> Ouch. Man... that hurts... I haven't been called "Dumbo"
> since 5th grade.


I'm a sophomore in college.

What's wrong with your ears?


>
> > But they WERE your peers?
> >
> > Who are your peers now?
> >
> > Who wants to bet he won't say?
>
> Yes, they were my peers. Past tense. Now, my peers are
> computer geeks, web designers, the clergy, and every person
> of above average intelligence in the Metroplex. I'm quite
> happy that you do not retain membership in any of those
> groups.


How do you know that I don't?

Are you psychic?


>
> > Haven't you learned to use quotation marks when quoting
> > someone?
> >
>
> I wasn't quoting you.


You were trying ... unsuccessfully.


>
> > No, meant to say that "YOU just demonstrated ignorance of
> > how Arbitron works".
> > Just like you stated above, "Congratulations! You just
> > demonstrated your a total lack of basic English writing
> > skills."
> > I'm sure you meant to leave out the extraneous "a" after
> the
> > word "your".
> > Should I chalk it up to English skills or a typo? You're
> > choice, Dumbo, I mean Bingo.
>
> Or perhaps you should read the rest of the paragraph and
> realize that I was satirizing your post by posting incorrect
> grammar.


Yeah right ... that extra "a" stood out like a sore thumb -- to any English teacher or journalism professor.



>
> >
> > Yeah, my 70-year-old neighbor is an Arbitron whiz.
> >
>
> "We", as I used the word, was meant to include members
> Radio-Info.com. I know that the average listener is about
> as knowlegable about the Arbitron system as you are about
> personal hygiene.


I'm guessing you're about 5'4 to 5'5" and 260.

Close?

>I'm sorry if that part was confusing.


Well, civility.



>
> > I suspect it may be. You don't know that for certain.
> >
> > Proof it.
>
> Well, if you would like to see my calculations that
> determine the falability (HEY FALLIBILITY, COME ON NOW Bingo) of such a system, or my "proof",
> then I guess I could go ahead and proof it. If, however,
> you want me to "prove" it, I would require data that I do
> not currently have.


In other words, you can't proof it?


> > Name something or someone flawless ... well other than
> > yourself.
>
> I am admittedly flawed. I have never claimed flawlessness.
>
> >
> >
> > > and constantly represents the
> > > actualy (what's that word, Mr. MacGee) listening
> > preferences of the people is either stupid or on the
> > Arbitron payroll.
> >
>
> Oops. One typo. I must now perform sepuku!
> AAAAAIIIIGGGGH!
>
> >
> > I never heard anyone ever say that -- except you.
> >
>
> You should perhaps listen more, then...
>
> >
> > Just because your station did not do so well is no reason
> to
> > pout, Mr. Dumbo ... sorry Bingo. B-I-N-G-O.
>
>
> You have just nullified any attempt at making a point. I
> have stated dozens of times that I am not currently employed
> by an broadcast company. I don't have a station.
>
> Also, the absolutely remedial use of "Dumbo" remarks are
> quite stinging. Please keep hurling such infantile
> insults... I might just run home crying.


Just for that ... I am going to call you Bingo?

And you can't go home, you have to see all the clergy, the geeks and all the above intellgent people in Dallas today.

Finally my headlines are better ...
"Ratings" at the top is lame

How about "Batman and Bingo battle!"

Your OK is what it takes

OK OK ... you get first billing ...
 
Once again, discussion turns into P1$$1nG Contest

I was simply trying to point out that Mr. Martin, like every other person in radio, tends to bemoan the inaccuracy of the ratings when they are down and gloat when they're up. This time he just did it all in the same breath.
There was no intention to bash the success of the RMS. I can admire his accomplishments and at the same time not be a fan of his methods.

But, once again, an attempt to create discussion on the fallability of the ratings sytem and it's interpretation by hosts, sales and management as a tool to further their goals, has been turned into a pissing contest.

Message after message of "my daddy can beat your daddy up" and rounds of "lets see who's got the biggest wee-wee" don't advance the discussion and only serve to waste everyones time in trying to dig through the middle school insults to find the topic again.
Could the moderators delete these posts? Please.
Or at least give the children their own playground where they can bitch and moan about personal issues at length.
They could call that board, "Babies Room".

For the rest of you. Please pardon my deviation from topic just this once.
Rant. Over.



> Well, since you are a fan of micro-fisking, I shall reply in
> kind...
>
> > (Sorry, right here I inadvertantly erased your comments
> > about my English.)
> >
> > I meant to say ignorance ... I apologize Dumbo, I mean
> > Bingo.
>
> Ouch. Man... that hurts... I haven't been called "Dumbo"
> since 5th grade.
>
> > But they WERE your peers?
> >
> > Who are your peers now?
> >
> > Who wants to bet he won't say?
>
> Yes, they were my peers. Past tense. Now, my peers are
> computer geeks, web designers, the clergy, and every person
> of above average intelligence in the Metroplex. I'm quite
> happy that you do not retain membership in any of those
> groups.
>
> > Haven't you learned to use quotation marks when quoting
> > someone?
> >
>
> I wasn't quoting you.
>
> > No, meant to say that "YOU just demonstrated ignorance of
> > how Arbitron works".
> > Just like you stated above, "Congratulations! You just
> > demonstrated your a total lack of basic English writing
> > skills."
> > I'm sure you meant to leave out the extraneous "a" after
> the
> > word "your".
> > Should I chalk it up to English skills or a typo? You're
> > choice, Dumbo, I mean Bingo.
>
> Or perhaps you should read the rest of the paragraph and
> realize that I was satirizing your post by posting incorrect
> grammar.
>
> >
> > Yeah, my 70-year-old neighbor is an Arbitron whiz.
> >
>
> "We", as I used the word, was meant to include members
> Radio-Info.com. I know that the average listener is about
> as knowlegable about the Arbitron system as you are about
> personal hygiene. I'm sorry if that part was confusing.
>
> > I suspect it may be. You don't know that for certain.
> >
> > Proof it.
>
> Well, if you would like to see my calculations that
> determine the falability of such a system, or my "proof",
> then I guess I could go ahead and proof it. If, however,
> you want me to "prove" it, I would require data that I do
> not currently have.
>
> > Name something or someone flawless ... well other than
> > yourself.
>
> I am admittedly flawed. I have never claimed flawlessness.
>
> >
> >
> > > and constantly represents the
> > > actualy (what's that word, Mr. MacGee) listening
> > preferences of the people is either stupid or on the
> > Arbitron payroll.
> >
>
> Oops. One typo. I must now perform sepuku!
> AAAAAIIIIGGGGH!
>
> >
> > I never heard anyone ever say that -- except you.
> >
>
> You should perhaps listen more, then...
>
> >
> > Just because your station did not do so well is no reason
> to
> > pout, Mr. Dumbo ... sorry Bingo. B-I-N-G-O.
>
>
> You have just nullified any attempt at making a point. I
> have stated dozens of times that I am not currently employed
> by an broadcast company. I don't have a station.
>
> Also, the absolutely remedial use of "Dumbo" remarks are
> quite stinging. Please keep hurling such infantile
> insults... I might just run home crying.
>
 
Mr. IQ checks in

> >
> Bingo, ignore em. Like you, im a former broadcast employee
> now in the IT field and also hang out in the "Higher Brain"
> circles here in the D/FW area. I dont take people "batman"
> (or whatever his "real" name is) too seriously because he's
> prolly some loser board op working out of Pigsknuckle,
> Arkansas with aspirations to be something he isnt. I agree
> with you wholeheartly, Arbi's are innacurate in their
> tracking of real listeners.


Geez, another Mensa member here.

"The Higher Brain" circles.

So your 'real name' is Slambang?

Your parents had a great sense of humor, Slam.

By the way, Bingo and I have concluded if you have time to read my post.

Oh, if you want to insult me, you ought to at least look at my resume.

Post your e-mail.
 
Re: Once again, discussion turns into P1$$1nG Contest

> I was simply trying to point out that Mr. Martin, like every
> other person in radio, tends to bemoan the inaccuracy of the
> ratings when they are down and gloat when they're up. This
> time he just did it all in the same breath.
> There was no intention to bash the success of the RMS. I
> can admire his accomplishments and at the same time not be a
> fan of his methods.
>
> But, once again, an attempt to create discussion on the
> fallability of the ratings sytem and it's interpretation by
> hosts, sales and management as a tool to further their
> goals, has been turned into a pissing contest.


Can you say that on the Radio .... info.com?


>
> Message after message of "my daddy can beat your daddy up"
> and rounds of "lets see who's got the biggest wee-wee"
> don't advance the discussion and only serve to waste
> everyones time in trying to dig through the middle school
> insults to find the topic again.


Well, Absolute, I really don't think anyone discussed those two topics of my daddy and wee-wee.

Did we?


> Could the moderators delete these posts? Please.


I don't think he's in this week.


> Or at least give the children their own playground where
> they can bitch and moan about personal issues at length.
> They could call that board, "Babies Room".


Again, can we say "bitch" on the radio ... info.com?


>
> For the rest of you. Please pardon my deviation from topic
> just this once.


OK. But you are good at it.



> Rant. Over.


And out ... way out ... far out.
 
Re: Battle?

>
> What's wrong with your ears?
>

What? Why would... Oh... I get it. You mean to infer that people call me "Dumbo" on a regular basis, but due to a hearing deficiency, I am unaware of such insults. I am impressed. That almost counts as 'witty'.

>
> How do you know that I don't?
>
> Are you psychic?
>

Yes. I knew you were going to ask that...

>
> You were trying ... unsuccessfully.
>

There is a difference between quoting and repeating. I was repeating.

>
> Yeah right ... that extra "a" stood out like a sore thumb --
> to any English teacher or journalism professor.
>

...or anyone who may have graduated high school? I, of course, do not know at what level you stopped comprehending grammar lessons. I can only make an educated guess.

>
> I'm guessing you're about 5'4 to 5'5" and 260.
>
> Close?
>

Nope. 6' and 180 lbs of pure woman-pleasin, ass-kickin Celt. I know that you won't believe the text on the screen. Ask Doc.

Now if you had insulted my Male Pattern Baldness, then you woulda been dead-on.

>
> Well, civility.
>

Quite.

>
> In other words, you can't proof it?
>

I said that I could "proof" it, but could not "prove" it. If you need to, please consult a dictionary or a thesaurus.

>
> Just for that ... I am going to call you Bingo?
>

I would expect you to call me Bingo, or Mr. MacGee, just as I will refer to you as The Batman, or Batman. It's only appropriate to address individuals by their name, don't you think?

>
> Finally my headlines are better ...
> "Ratings" at the top is lame
>

Well, you have me there. But when you use the word "Finally" to begin a sentence, please make sure it is the final sentence. Otherwise, it's just plain silly looking.

>
> How about "Batman and Bingo battle!"
>

I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man.

And there was no need to double post. There is an "edit" option.<P ID="signature">______________
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Re: Mr. IQ checks in

>
> By the way, Bingo and I have concluded if you have time to
> read my post.

Concluded? Concluded what?

>
> Oh, if you want to insult me, you ought to at least look at
> my resume.
>

I would assume the same would go for you?

>
> Post your e-mail.
>

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