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rapking
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WJMN win in this rock town and will stay at the top until there is another Hip Hop or urban outlet in Boston .
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keyjock
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WODS - Oldies 103.3 Top Dog 25-54.
Congrats. And who said that the Christmas thing was dying.
Congrats. And who said that the Christmas thing was dying.
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rapking
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WEEI Down ( wow ). WMKK Down ( Who care , Mike s/ck ) WAMG Up ( Up from nothing ) . WRKO Up ( WoW ) . 97.7 ? ( - )
it's not that the Christmas thing is not working; it is that it is AWFUL. It is NOT oldies. They should have a special channel for Christmas and a channel to play Oldies on. It would be like turning Jamn or Kiss all Christmas and pre-empting what it naturally is. I don't like it. Just a radio listener voting against it.
We know it makes them money; it's like turning Cheerios into Fruit Loops for six seasonal weeks and then back to Cheerios. Since I don't like Fruit Loops I didn't buy into it.
We know it makes them money; it's like turning Cheerios into Fruit Loops for six seasonal weeks and then back to Cheerios. Since I don't like Fruit Loops I didn't buy into it.
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bjohns
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keyjock said:
Keyjock, do you have any insights on the 25-54 numbers on WRKO? Rank? Anything? They might explain the desperation tactics...
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TowerBuzz
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rapking said:
Boston cannot be described as rock town considering Jamn has been a ratings powerhouse for the past ten years. There is a rock scene for sure but there is a huge hunger for jamn's brand of CHR/hip hop too. Plus they have always been a great station which would not be denied. As for another hip hop outlet overtaking Jamn it wont happen, they have the heritage. Plus the one that tried was a poor substitute all the wayy around but they could not even make a dent in Jamn's numbers and dont say it had to do with their signal, they were just an amateur operation.
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BoscoGoldBear
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I pretty much think that Boston is a rock town on the basis of what I heard between Braintree (couldn't stand the Colonel on 'RKO) and my Boston condo. Here are what I consider to be Boston's rock stations, based on the ratings:
Oldies 103 (rumored to switch to classic rock at any moment; behind Jam'n and 'BZ; based both on what I heard and read about Mighty Mike replacing Barry and transforming Saturday night into classic rock night; very dissapointing IMHO)
Kiss 108 (top current rock station by default - overload of Nickelback, Godsmack, Green Day, Staind and Dave Matthews)
WROR (way behind Kiss; formerly the top classic rocker in town; behind easy listening (which plays grunge bands Hoobastank, Green Day, 3 Doors Down and Nickelback), 3 talk stations (including a racist talk station masquerading as a sports station) and relocated country station)
Mix (see Kiss for music description; behind relocated classical station)
WAAFs
WBCN
WZLX (fading classic rocker; way behind WROR and Oldies in that category; might possibly have new R&B format in '07)
Mike FM (another fading classic rocker)
WBOS (can someone switch that dog to R&B, rhythmic or Spanish, or are the GM sales weasels too lazy to sell KLB, FM Talk and ROR's clearly superior numbers)
Rock 101 in NH (behind Plymouth easy listener)
WFNX
River (behind Spanish AM in same Merrimack Valley area)
As for 'RKO, I was surprised at the strong ratings which it received. Sure, I believe the 25-54s are dog numbers (I work in the animal administrative field now - can you tell), but I also believe that they're probably better 25-54s that they've had in a long while. Clearly the listeners don't really care that Rod, Listo, and the rest of the news bunch are gone - in that case I'm glad that Trooper Grant retired before he would've been forced out. On the flip side, 'EEI's numbers are just as clearly inferior to what they were last January, and they will fare very poorly, even compared to Tommy Taxes (uggh!). :-[
Oldies 103 (rumored to switch to classic rock at any moment; behind Jam'n and 'BZ; based both on what I heard and read about Mighty Mike replacing Barry and transforming Saturday night into classic rock night; very dissapointing IMHO)
Kiss 108 (top current rock station by default - overload of Nickelback, Godsmack, Green Day, Staind and Dave Matthews)
WROR (way behind Kiss; formerly the top classic rocker in town; behind easy listening (which plays grunge bands Hoobastank, Green Day, 3 Doors Down and Nickelback), 3 talk stations (including a racist talk station masquerading as a sports station) and relocated country station)
Mix (see Kiss for music description; behind relocated classical station)
WAAFs
WBCN
WZLX (fading classic rocker; way behind WROR and Oldies in that category; might possibly have new R&B format in '07)
Mike FM (another fading classic rocker)
WBOS (can someone switch that dog to R&B, rhythmic or Spanish, or are the GM sales weasels too lazy to sell KLB, FM Talk and ROR's clearly superior numbers)
Rock 101 in NH (behind Plymouth easy listener)
WFNX
River (behind Spanish AM in same Merrimack Valley area)
As for 'RKO, I was surprised at the strong ratings which it received. Sure, I believe the 25-54s are dog numbers (I work in the animal administrative field now - can you tell), but I also believe that they're probably better 25-54s that they've had in a long while. Clearly the listeners don't really care that Rod, Listo, and the rest of the news bunch are gone - in that case I'm glad that Trooper Grant retired before he would've been forced out. On the flip side, 'EEI's numbers are just as clearly inferior to what they were last January, and they will fare very poorly, even compared to Tommy Taxes (uggh!). :-[
Ah, I almost forgot the 12 +s were coming out today! Notice some here have access to the 25-54s
but what I'm about to mention only relates to the 12 + posted on radioandrecords, which are said to
be not as important. But what the hey.
Big jump for oldies, and the Christmas was included. I also hate the idea of all-Christmas, at least as early as they did it, but we know money talks. 'RKO up and 'TKK also up, but 'TKK's gain was two thirds as much
as the 'RKO gain.
Big drop for 'EEI. What will happen when Sox season starts and MOST games will be on 680? (Exceptions:
weekday afternoons and Wed. nights, which will remain at 850). Celts and Sox on WRKO, and talk
on WEEI.
WKLB down a very tiny percentage; changed freqs on Dec 1. 'CRB also down slightly.
Prediction: WRKO will move up to fourth or fifth in the 12+ once Sox season starts. Howie and
Finneran won't be as big a factor as the airing of the games.
Two CBS rockers (100.7 & 104.1) not doing so hot lately
WXKS (AM) and WKOX are listed as talk but technically they rumba-ed in to a new format on Dec 21.
No real change, yet.
WILD (AM) listed as gospel but more recently they went to a hybrid of talk shows and gospel.
Didn't show in last book but a decent bounce back.
Among the missing: WBOQ, WWZN, WTTT.
but what I'm about to mention only relates to the 12 + posted on radioandrecords, which are said to
be not as important. But what the hey.
Big jump for oldies, and the Christmas was included. I also hate the idea of all-Christmas, at least as early as they did it, but we know money talks. 'RKO up and 'TKK also up, but 'TKK's gain was two thirds as much
as the 'RKO gain.
Big drop for 'EEI. What will happen when Sox season starts and MOST games will be on 680? (Exceptions:
weekday afternoons and Wed. nights, which will remain at 850). Celts and Sox on WRKO, and talk
on WEEI.
WKLB down a very tiny percentage; changed freqs on Dec 1. 'CRB also down slightly.
Prediction: WRKO will move up to fourth or fifth in the 12+ once Sox season starts. Howie and
Finneran won't be as big a factor as the airing of the games.
Two CBS rockers (100.7 & 104.1) not doing so hot lately
WXKS (AM) and WKOX are listed as talk but technically they rumba-ed in to a new format on Dec 21.
No real change, yet.
WILD (AM) listed as gospel but more recently they went to a hybrid of talk shows and gospel.
Didn't show in last book but a decent bounce back.
Among the missing: WBOQ, WWZN, WTTT.
Steve N. said:
WODS is now the top adult music station in Boston. Changing a weekend specialty show doesn't mean that they're about to change the whole station. WODS competition for their format and demo is WMJX and WROR, and they're topping them both.
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argytunes
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"....and the seasons they go round and round and the painted ponies go up and down"---[a snippet of Joni Mitchell's lyric from THE CIRCLE GAME].
It always amazes me how easy it is for some of our contributors to reference an existing format---and make it sound more important than it ACTUALLY is?
Have you noticed that very few people ever discuss the actual time that spent listening TO a radio station...as opposed to using it as a background source? :
argytunes
It always amazes me how easy it is for some of our contributors to reference an existing format---and make it sound more important than it ACTUALLY is?
Have you noticed that very few people ever discuss the actual time that spent listening TO a radio station...as opposed to using it as a background source? :
argytunes
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rapking
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Jamn never been on top of The Boston Radio Ratings..Until Radio One Killed WBOT/WILD-Am/FM . WBZ or WEEI was alway on top in Boston .Radio One did a poor job with WILD-FM . I think Ms Nash ( former WILD Owner ) would had done hell alot better job than Uncle Radio One . If there was another Urban or Chr/R Outlet in Boston..Jamn will not be on top of the Boston Rating . I am not saying a new Outlet will over take Jamn..But the New outlet will effect WJMN Numbers .TowerBuzz said:
The schedule changes at these too stations may be coming a bit late to have affected the ratings of the last period, other than WRKO's putting rotating hosts (before finally settling on Feinburg, and even that could be temp.) in the 9-noon slot. If anything both stations went up because of interest in the election (and
post-election talk)
post-election talk)
Johnnie B said:
Running way too many meaningless college(Note Dame) and NFL games every weekend afternoon and all that Fox Radio Sports crap. Jason got too cheap to pay partime hosts and too cocky in the middle of the Pats season and Sox hot stove. Trying to redeem himself now, though. Today's BC basketball game and Sunday's NFC game will be right where it belongs, on their second sports station - WRKO. More time for Mustard and the Sports Dick on WEEI. Yippee.
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TowerBuzz
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[/quote]Jamn never been on top of The Boston Radio Ratings..Until Radio One Killed WBOT/WILD-Am/FM . WBZ or WEEI was alway on top in Boston .Radio One did a poor job with WILD-FM . I think Ms Nash ( former WILD Owner ) would had done hell alot better job than Uncle Radio One . If there was another Urban or Chr/R Outlet in Boston..Jamn will not be on top of the Boston Rating . I am not saying a new Outlet will over take Jamn..But the New outlet will effect WJMN Numbers .
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Rapking you are simply wrong. Radio One/WBOT has never been a factor in the Boston ratings, period. If it were it would not be playing Godsmack right now. Jamn has always done exceedingly well in their respective demo, females 18-34/persons 18-34 and in the mid 90's they started to get great numbers in the coveted men 18-34 demo in many books beating both waaf and wbcn. You're simply wrong my man.
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Rapking you are simply wrong. Radio One/WBOT has never been a factor in the Boston ratings, period. If it were it would not be playing Godsmack right now. Jamn has always done exceedingly well in their respective demo, females 18-34/persons 18-34 and in the mid 90's they started to get great numbers in the coveted men 18-34 demo in many books beating both waaf and wbcn. You're simply wrong my man.
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TowerBuzz
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I pretty much think that Boston is a rock town on the basis of what I heard between Braintree (couldn't stand the Colonel on 'RKO) and my Boston condo. Here are what I consider to be Boston's rock stations, based on the ratings:
Oldies 103 (rumored to switch to classic rock at any moment; behind Jam'n and 'BZ; based both on what I heard and read about Mighty Mike replacing Barry and transforming Saturday night into classic rock night; very dissapointing IMHO)
Steve I want to be respectful in my response but you're completely devoid of any thought at this point. To begin WODS is doing very well as an oldies station, but even if they were up for possible format flip; What idiot would think that CBS radio WODS would flip classic rock in the same town where CBS owns WZLX, already a classic rock station with heritage in the market?.
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Oldies 103 (rumored to switch to classic rock at any moment; behind Jam'n and 'BZ; based both on what I heard and read about Mighty Mike replacing Barry and transforming Saturday night into classic rock night; very dissapointing IMHO)
Steve I want to be respectful in my response but you're completely devoid of any thought at this point. To begin WODS is doing very well as an oldies station, but even if they were up for possible format flip; What idiot would think that CBS radio WODS would flip classic rock in the same town where CBS owns WZLX, already a classic rock station with heritage in the market?.
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I hate to sound like a nincompoop (spelling?) but where can I find the ratings you are referring to?
On business trip and sad to say, this might be my bedtime reading in hotel. Or maybe I'll find good local radio to listen to in Dallas!
On business trip and sad to say, this might be my bedtime reading in hotel. Or maybe I'll find good local radio to listen to in Dallas!
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rapking
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Jamn never been on top of The Boston Radio Ratings..Until Radio One Killed WBOT/WILD-Am/FM . WBZ or WEEI was alway on top in Boston .Radio One did a poor job with WILD-FM . I think Ms Nash ( former WILD Owner ) would had done hell alot better job than Uncle Radio One . If there was another Urban or Chr/R Outlet in Boston..Jamn will not be on top of the Boston Rating . I am not saying a new Outlet will over take Jamn..But the New outlet will effect WJMN Numbers .
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Rapking you are simply wrong. Radio One/WBOT has never been a factor in the Boston ratings, period. If it were it would not be playing Godsmack right now. Jamn has always done exceedingly well in their respective demo, females 18-34/persons 18-34 and in the mid 90's they started to get great numbers in the coveted men 18-34 demo in many books beating both waaf and wbcn. You're simply wrong my man.
Im talking about 12 + Ratings . JAMN Never been on top of the Boston rating until Radio One Killed WBOT/WILD Station . WBOT/WILD was gettin two plus ratings...Now Most of the WILD/WBOT fans are now listening to WJMN . There are 30 Million Reasons, why 97.7 is playing Godsmack .
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Rapking you are simply wrong. Radio One/WBOT has never been a factor in the Boston ratings, period. If it were it would not be playing Godsmack right now. Jamn has always done exceedingly well in their respective demo, females 18-34/persons 18-34 and in the mid 90's they started to get great numbers in the coveted men 18-34 demo in many books beating both waaf and wbcn. You're simply wrong my man.
Im talking about 12 + Ratings . JAMN Never been on top of the Boston rating until Radio One Killed WBOT/WILD Station . WBOT/WILD was gettin two plus ratings...Now Most of the WILD/WBOT fans are now listening to WJMN . There are 30 Million Reasons, why 97.7 is playing Godsmack .
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TowerBuzz
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In the first place the 12+ rating is rarely looked at and again WILD/WBOT has nothing to do with Jamn's status. Jamn was there before WBOt and it's not like they inherited WBOT's audience after they flipped because like I said Jamn was there before WBOT. Also the only thing about the 12+ number of any signifigance is for Kiss 108. Jamn was designed to flank Kiss and since Kiss is supposed to bill higher than Jamn and have traditionally the two stations were designed to compliment each other with Kiss on top in the 12+ nubers. It may mean a money problem for kiss but other than that 12+ doesnt mean a thing. Jamn has been a powerhouse for a long time Rapking, WBOt does not enter into the equation, Im sorry to say.
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