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Rays baseball on "97.9 FM" ?

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jimbobjoe

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Listening to the MLB.com radio online stream and I just heard Rays broadcaster Andy Freed on a promo telling fans to tune into "97.9 FM and 1250 AM" when the Rays open the series with Chicago on Thursday. No mention of HD Radio or anything. Is 98 Rock signing on as a part-time affiliate or something?
 
jimbobjoe said:
Listening to the MLB.com radio online stream and I just heard Rays broadcaster Andy Freed on a promo telling fans to tune into "97.9 FM and 1250 AM" when the Rays open the series with Chicago on Thursday. No mention of HD Radio or anything. Is 98 Rock signing on as a part-time affiliate or something?
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98 Rock and 1250 WHNZ will carry Rays baseball when there is a scheduling conflict on 620 WDAE. The first such instance will be this Thursday, when the Rays are in Chicago the night of the first round of the NFL Draft.
 
WDAE-AM 620 is now ESPN Radio at 7pm-utill overnight but WDAE doesnt carry all ESPN Radio like Mike and Mike and Colin Cowhread and Scott Van Pelt.
 
as Carney said it's a conflict thing and we have to put the games somewhere. 1250's signal is a stinker @ night and I'll take the extra meters :) . This will happen 3 or 4 times through the entire season. For the 900th time 98ROCK isn't going anywhere :p
 
It's about time that Clear Channel puts the Rays on FM. I am kinda of surprised that they didn't put the game on 94.5 and 105.9.
 
daw said:
It's about time that Clear Channel puts the Rays on FM. I am kinda of surprised that they didn't put the game on 94.5 and 105.9.
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The idea is a full-market signal, with better night coverage than 1250. The translators would not accomplish that, an 98 Rock's audience is men.
 
I believe 1040 succumbs to the Yankee fever.

Book this: The City of Tampa must make up its mind . Do they want to be a spring time home and be the servants of a division rival?

Or do they want to stand on their own two feet and have their own team in their city and send the Yankees packing?

Clock is ticking boys. Another sparse crowd watched your team shut down the Bombers tonight. No way the Rays owners, who have built 90 game winners out of one of the lowest payrolls in sport, are going to stand for this much longer.

Cut a deal with the Steinbrenners and put the new stadium where Legends Field is.

Let the Yanks train in Pinellas. There is already talk of moving their 'A' team to Ocala.

And, no I don't care if Huggins-Stengel field isn't in the best part of town. Yankee Stadium isn't exactly in NYC's best neighborhood either.
 
daw said:
It's about time that Clear Channel puts the Rays on FM. I am kinda of surprised that they didn't put the game on 94.5 and 105.9.
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I'm sure it's a money decision. If the powers that be at CC thought they could make more money by putting the Rays on one of those signals (or if one of them was a dog that just wasn't making any money, or if they felt the promotional value made it a worthwhile loss leader) they would have made that move long ago. I think baseball sounds great on FM, but I don't think that's enough reason by itself to make such a move.
 
We carried The Lightning and later on The Rays on WLVU-FM to supplement the AM flagship stations' lack of coverage especially to the north. It began with Lightning games that were carried by WFNS. The owner of 910 at the time approached us and actually did a time-brokering deal that turned out to be win/win. Although we were a music station it made sense as the games were at night and generally only a couple times a week.
 
>>I thought AM-820 is doing the Yankees baseball like last year. <<

Being that this board is populated with radio enthusiasts, I'm kind of surprised that one would not be aware that the Yankees are on 1040. On that point, is Tampa Bay unique in major markets to have a competing out of market team locally broadcast? Even if the games broadcast are only the home schedule, don't major league teams have captive protected local markets?

>>Clock is ticking boys. Another sparse crowd watched your team shut down the Bombers tonight. No way the Rays owners, who have built 90 game winners out of one of the lowest payrolls in sport, are going to stand for this much longer.

Cut a deal with the Steinbrenners and put the new stadium where Legends Field is.<<

Being that this is a radio board, I will make a radio analogy. However, first I'll opine that Sternberg did not just fall off the turnip truck, and walked into the Rays ownership fully aware of contracts that existed. As any hardnosed businessman knows, contracts mean things. Despite his bluster, unless HE puts significant money on the table to change the equation, he is "going to stand this" for a lot longer, maybe until 2027. Perhaps he is biding his time in hopes that a new Mayor in St. Petersburg will be elected that he can push around, but I wouldn't bet that's going to happen. And by the way, the Steinbrenners have nothing to do with Legends field other than have the name. The TAXPAYERS of Hillsborough County built that show place at the tune of better than $40 million, and if you think tearing down or abandoning a 25 year old (and not yet paid for) Tropicana Field is a crime, imagine what the thought of throwing away a 20 year old investment will be, so that the TAXPAYERS of Hillsborough can invest in a much larger attendance gamble.

Now the radio analogy/question - a guy walks into a market and contracts to buy a station on AM, but finds that the audience is not there, and wants to move to FM, but there are no full signals available. Can he just decide he doesn't want to complete the purchase and walk away? Can he/would he take the AM signal and move to another town?

Another radio question/analogy - a guy buys a contract of radio spots, but then decides the station doesn't have high enough ratings, or his ad campaign isn't getting enough response. Can he just stop payments on the contact? I thought you bought so many insertions in a broadcast day, and paid up front - can an unhappy advertiser demand more spots or his money back mid-contract?
 
Mr. Ferreri is probably the best to answer that question, but I'll say for starters that TV does have a system where sponsors buy ad time on shows based on expectation of certain ratings levels. If they aren't met the sponsors are typically given "make goods" i.e. extra spots to make up the difference. I suppose the same thing could happen in radio...Frank?
 
Lots of variables to this answer. By the way, thanks for the "Mister", Mike. In my case running LVU AM/FM, most if not all, our advertsiers were local direct which means the owner or manager of the business purchased the time directly. They ran a schedule and could see results or lack of because they are in the store daily. If they were unhappy with the results we first would examine the copy. Maybe the offer was weak or they were "testing" the station by spending a minimal amount thus not having enough frequency. Maybe they were trying to sell somethng that people just don't buy. Many of the buys on larger stations are done by ad agencies who buy TV, radio, & newspaper making it somewhat difficult to guage the results. Some try a radio coupon, however, the offer again has to be good. Mention this ad and get a free cup of coffee ain't gonna work. Again, in my case running a smaller local station we would do whatever we could to keep customers happy, however, a contract is a contract and nowhere in ad contracts are there guarantees of results. The only thing you can guarantee is the spots will run as purchased and will be done professionally. There are however, cancellation clauses so an unhappy advertiser can terminate the contract within the specific time outlined in the contract.
 
SCMcKinney said:
>>I thought AM-820 is doing the Yankees baseball like last year. <<

Being that this board is populated with radio enthusiasts, I'm kind of surprised that one would not be aware that the Yankees are on 1040. On that point, is Tampa Bay unique in major markets to have a competing out of market team locally broadcast? Even if the games broadcast are only the home schedule, don't major league teams have captive protected local markets?

>>Clock is ticking boys. Another sparse crowd watched your team shut down the Bombers tonight. No way the Rays owners, who have built 90 game winners out of one of the lowest payrolls in sport, are going to stand for this much longer.

Cut a deal with the Steinbrenners and put the new stadium where Legends Field is.<<

Being that this is a radio board, I will make a radio analogy. However, first I'll opine that Sternberg did not just fall off the turnip truck, and walked into the Rays ownership fully aware of contracts that existed. As any hardnosed businessman knows, contracts mean things. Despite his bluster, unless HE puts significant money on the table to change the equation, he is "going to stand this" for a lot longer, maybe until 2027. Perhaps he is biding his time in hopes that a new Mayor in St. Petersburg will be elected that he can push around, but I wouldn't bet that's going to happen. And by the way, the Steinbrenners have nothing to do with Legends field other than have the name. The TAXPAYERS of Hillsborough County built that show place at the tune of better than $40 million, and if you think tearing down or abandoning a 25 year old (and not yet paid for) Tropicana Field is a crime, imagine what the thought of throwing away a 20 year old investment will be, so that the TAXPAYERS of Hillsborough can invest in a much larger attendance gamble.

Now the radio analogy/question - a guy walks into a market and contracts to buy a station on AM, but finds that the audience is not there, and wants to move to FM, but there are no full signals available. Can he just decide he doesn't want to complete the purchase and walk away? Can he/would he take the AM signal and move to another town?

Another radio question/analogy - a guy buys a contract of radio spots, but then decides the station doesn't have high enough ratings, or his ad campaign isn't getting enough response. Can he just stop payments on the contact? I thought you bought so many insertions in a broadcast day, and paid up front - can an unhappy advertiser demand more spots or his money back mid-contract?
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As far as I know, Tampa is the only MLB market that also has regular broadcasts of an out of town team. If I recall correctly, the loophole is that the home team for every game controls clearances of their radio broadcasts. The Rays have, I think, in some seasons, gone to other teams who host the Yankees and and requested that they deny clearance into the Tampa market, but the short answer is no, the Rays can't stop it.

And people don't pay their bills to radio stations fairly often.
 
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