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Re:Cease and Desist Using GEN X RADIO Trademark

Re:Cease and Desist Using GEN X RADIO Trademark

The following e-mail was sent to Clear Channel this morning:


To Whom it May Concern:


On Dec. 31, 2008, we began broadcasting and streaming music and other content under the trademark "Gen X Radio". We purchased, and have maintained an account on the Live365 network. Our agreement with Live365 took care of all music royalty issues that occur with broadcasting licensed music. Since then we have maintained that right through our agreement with Sound Exchange via a Live365 broadcasting package. In March of the same year we purchased and/or produced voice imaging and designed a logo using the same name.

Since then we have developed a strong presence on Google and other search engines, where our Live365 station page and FaceBook page are routinely listed amongst the top 5 websites when entering the search term "Gen X Radio" or "Gen-X Radio". This also had been the case months before you launched your first "Gen X Radio" in the Louisville, KY market. We have screen-shots and video of these searches along with corroborating evidence to show our presence in the national radio market.

On social media sites like Twitter and Facebook, we have been using the specific mark of "Gen X Radio" since July of 2009 or earlier with which to market and promote our brand.

Our station is available for streaming with reputable companies like Live365, Apple, and Tivo which has further helped secure our trademark in the national radio marketplace.

We also purchased and still own the domain name genxradio.org, and are in the process of building a website.

We can also document that their are consumers in all of the geographical areas with which you currently use "Gen X Radio" that have listened to our stream and were familiar with our brand prior to your use.

Furthermore we have also filed an application to register the trademark "Gen X Radio" in August of 2009 with the USPTO, the outcome of which is still forthcoming. However registration of the mark is not necessary for us to enforce our rights to it.

All of the above, constitute "prior use in commerce" under common law, which gives us a legitimate and legal claim to the trademark "Gen X Radio". This prior use predates any use by Clear Channel by a substantial period of time.

Your negligent use of our trademark is causing consumer confusion and brand dilution in the national radio marketplace, which we can easily document in a myriad of ways. It is also our contention that you willfully or negligently ignored our presence in the marketplace, and
purposefully decided to use the mark "Gen X Radio" without our consent. Any routine query using any of the major search engines would have led you to know of our presence , so either you did not conduct proper due diligence, or you chose to ignore our presence. Either way, this gives us a very strong case in which to file suit for trademark infringement.

We further contend that your unathourized use of "Gen X Radio" has begun to dilute its meaning and made it very difficult and in some cases impossible for us to adequately market our brand.

We therefore, respectfully request that you cease and desist from using the trademark "Gen X Radio". We also request that you not use the trademark "Gen X Radio" or any purposeful misspelling or pronunciation on any radio stations, internet streaming, websites, station imaging, correspondence, logos or social media sites. We also must request that you cease and desist from streaming any content originating from your terrestrial stations onto the internet under the brand "Gen X Radio". Any attempt by Clear Channel to use the name "Gen X Radio" in any other additional markets will be met with the same opposition.

It should also be known that we have no objection to the format that you currently market as "Gen X Radio", as you are legally free to play whatever type of music you wish on your stations. We only object to it being branded as "Gen X Radio", as we have clearly proved trademark rights to that name.

We would like to come to an amicable resolution on this issue, but if you do not comply with our wishes to cease and desist using the trademark "Gen X Radio" we will have no choice but to begin litigation. We do not wish to abdicate or license the trademark at this time, and any consideration to do so will only occur upon your compliance to cease and desist using the mark.

Attached are copies of the trademark as we have used it in commerce, prior to your use.

We will also be forwarding a previous Cease and Desist letter which was e-mailed to your Louisville station in August of 2009.


It should be also known that copies of this e-mail will be forwarded via certified mail no later than 8/5/2010.

Copies of this e-mail, in its entirety may have also been forwarded to various media outlets, but specifically to local newspapers within the markets you currently use the "Gen X Radio" trademark.


We are available only to discuss or clarify specific issues within this e-mail. Any further contact will be made through our attorney, whose address we will forward to you later on today.

Thank you for your prompt and deliberate concern in this issue.


John R Gregg
Eve F Gregg

Gen X Radio
 
Re:Cease and Desist Using GEN X RADIO Trademark

Since you do not yet have GEN X RADIO trademarked legally,this will be a tough battle.

Plan on CC buying you out of the name.
 
Re:Cease and Desist Using GEN X RADIO Trademark

these are my personal observations and not that of my employer......ok...that said.

Can streaming be defined as "radio" ? Do they actually have an "on air" rf signal (radio) signal broadcasting? It would seem to me that radio is defined as "over the air"....not internet audio.

Apples and Oranges? just throwing that out there for someone to comment on...

cceng
 
Re:Cease and Desist Using GEN X RADIO Trademark

Hope the Gregg boys have very deep pockets and extremely good lawyers, 'cause I tend to think that taking on CC in court won't exactly be a walk in the park. I read somewhere a week or two ago that Clear Channel spent nearly a million bucks last year (yeah, in the middle of the Great Recesssion) just on lobbying the FCC, for future favors like ditching the ownership caps altogether.

I tend to agree with you, Charlie. Although we can all hear the similarities, internet-distributed audio is not airwave-distributed radio. Don't have to be an engineer to know the difference.

Then again, a subtle CC shift to "Gen X FM" or "Generation X FM" or "Radio X" might save everyone a lot of trouble and money until the Greggs endeavor runs its course...
 
Re:Cease and Desist Using GEN X RADIO Trademark

Well, having been involved in a lawsuit once upon a time against a giant company like AirTouch, they're not unwinnable, but they are not easy. In the end, the lawyers make a ton of money and, if one is lucky, you get something meaningful out of the deal. This will probably settle with CC either buying the rights or slightly altering the name.

As for Internet broadcasting vs over-the-air, that's a sticky subject and a very interesting question. By the act of streaming, true broadcasters re-inforce the notion that Internetcasting is the same as broadcasting. Certainly, the Congress and those organizations, like SoundExchange, that collect fees seem to think so. I would have argued that Internet streaming is not true broadcasting for a variety of reasons, but I know a lot of "real" broadcasters that consider their streaming audience to be a valued addition to station listenership. Evidenly, the general consensus is that streaming is a form of broadcasting. I wonder how well supported those arguments really are.
 
Re:Cease and Desist Using GEN X RADIO Trademark

Lots to study on this. One of the more recent was Jack: Playing What We Want. A bunch of stations decided to come up with variations to avoid paying the fee. The approach is the same, the exact name is different.

Kmagrill said:
By the act of streaming, true broadcasters re-inforce the notion that Internetcasting is the same as broadcasting. Certainly, the Congress and those organizations, like SoundExchange, that collect fees seem to think so.

Not exactly. Congress has lots of laws that apply to broadcasting, next to no laws for internetcasting. SoundExchange wants to confuse the two because it suits their purposes. But the only reason they exist is because the internet is digital, therefore different from broadcasting.

The fact that the official trademark on the name has not yet been granted in my view weakens their case. At least for the time being. You can't infinge on a trademark that hasn't been officially registered. "Common law" isn't absolute. At least not as far as I know.
 
Would it be too late for CC to register "Gen X Radio" and send a C&D letter back to the Greggs?
 
ai4i said:
Would it be too late for CC to register "Gen X Radio" and send a C&D letter back to the Greggs?

According to the United States Copyright and Trademark Office, Clear Channel filed an application to register the term first.
 
Re:Cease and Desist Using GEN X RADIO Trademark

I believe Clear Channel was using "Gen X Radio" about 10 years ago on WGNX 99.7 in Vero Beach.
 
Re:Cease and Desist Using GEN X RADIO Trademark

Gen X Radio said:
The following e-mail was sent to Clear Channel this morning:


;D ;D Yeah. Good luck with that.
 
jmtillery said:
ai4i said:
Would it be too late for CC to register "Gen X Radio" and send a C&D letter back to the Greggs?

According to the United States Copyright and Trademark Office, Clear Channel filed an application to register the term first.

You guys need to brush up on your trademark law. "prior use in commerce" is all that is required in the US to own a trademark. While registration has certain benefits, it is not required in order to maintain rights to a mark. As for what is going on with the USPTO, that is far from a done deal. Stay tuned.
 
Gen X Radio said:
jmtillery said:
ai4i said:
Would it be too late for CC to register "Gen X Radio" and send a C&D letter back to the Greggs?

According to the United States Copyright and Trademark Office, Clear Channel filed an application to register the term first.

You guys need to brush up on your trademark law. "prior use in commerce" is all that is required in the US to own a trademark. While registration has certain benefits, it is not required in order to maintain rights to a mark. As for what is going on with the USPTO, that is far from a done deal. Stay tuned.

I'm well aware of how it works. Thank you for posting.
 
Re:Cease and Desist Using GEN X RADIO Trademark

cceng said:
these are my personal observations and not that of my employer......ok...that said.

Can streaming be defined as "radio" ? Do they actually have an "on air" rf signal (radio) signal broadcasting? It would seem to me that radio is defined as "over the air"....not internet audio.

Apples and Oranges? just throwing that out there for someone to comment on...

cceng

I think it has more to do with branding and use timely use of the name more than it does the medium or product being offered. IIRC, the Ford Fusion was originally to be called the Ford Futura, with 'Futura' appearing on a previous FoMoCo project. But because so much time had passed with Ford not using the name, Pep Boys was able to make a claim protecting the use 'Futura' for a line of tires it sold.

As I understand it, Clear Channel could have started its own podcast or web radio channel with the name 'Gen X Radio' with the same legal conflict possibly being in play.
 
Re:Cease and Desist Using GEN X RADIO Trademark

WGNX was Gen X, or 97X but wasnt a CC station if memory serves right it was owned by Vero Beach Broadcasting I think it is now WOSN
 
Re:Cease and Desist Using GEN X RADIO Trademark

hdradioeng said:
WGNX was Gen X, or 97X but wasnt a CC station if memory serves right it was owned by Vero Beach Broadcasting I think it is now WOSN

It's not WOSN, it was on 99.7 now WJKD 99.7 Jack-FM. But you're right, it's Vero Beach Broadcasting. I don't know why I thought it was CC.
 
Re:Cease and Desist Using GEN X RADIO Trademark

Thats it, its been a long time since I was in that area and my memory let me down. Wasnt Mike Lowe there? I remember listening in Melbourne but it wasn't great.
 
Re:Cease and Desist Using GEN X RADIO Trademark

I think PAMS had a jingle package back in the late 60's or early 70's called Generation X. I have to go along with cceng.. No RF signal...Internet only! Doesn't count!
 
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