Real TV shows mentioned within a fictional context

[jwk1979]

On Do Over (anyone besides me remember that one?), it was supposedly 1980, and the kid's alarm clock awoke him with "Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go," a clever use of the song, but its release was still four years away!

There was an episode of "Cold Case" on which a simular occurance happened. The Cold Case team was working on murder from 1985, yet all the music being played in the flashback scenes was music that wouldn't be released for another several years. Among the songs that I recall being used during this episode were "Free Falling"-Tom Petty (1989), "In Your Eyes"-Peter Gaberial (1986), a song by Heart that was released in 1987, etc. Every song was from later in the 80s than 1985.

 

[cd637299]

One from a movie, "Anger Management": Adam Sandler's character, as a kid in 1978, is shown wearing a "Dukes Of Hazzard" T-shirt. Couldn't be, since "Dukes" didn't debut until January 1979.

Another one. On That '80s Show, which I admittedly never watched, so I cannot really comment on this, but supposedly a character on there wore a Miami Vice-style jacket, and the show was supposedly set earlier in the '80s than before Vice debuted.

On Do Over (anyone besides me remember that one?), it was supposedly 1980, and the kid's alarm clock awoke him with "Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go," a clever use of the song, but its release was still four years away!

What about references to past TV shows? The ALF episode that referenced Gilligan's Island was funny, but since most (if not all) of the Gilligan's Island cast appeared on that episode, it might have been considered more of a "crossover" episode. Can you have "crossover" episodes with defunct shows? This was one of the last ever cast reunions of Gilligan cast members, save for another appearance on the Late Show, then still hosted by Joan Rivers.

I didn't see the ALF/Gilligan thing...but were all 7 original actors on it? The "Late Show" thing on Fox was the only true reunion I recall----and it wasn't Joan Rivers, but rather Ross Shafer, as they were looking for a new host as I recall, and Ross was plugged in that night. 4 parts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lYwbPUMqzw

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[firepoint525]

Yeah, I hedged it by saying "most if not all." Since that episode aired in ALF second season (1987-88), it probably was after Rivers had been canned from The Late Show. My parents at one time had the first season of ALF on DVD and offered it to me, but I was not particularly interested in it, since the Gilligan crossover was not on it.

Whether or not all seven original Gilligan actors were on ALF would probably depend on if Tina Louise was on it. She had little to nothing to do with Gilligan after it went off the air, but I cannot specifically remember if she appeared on that ALF episode. My guess is that she did not.

 

[firepoint525]

The irony here is that the only two still-living original actors from Gilligan's Island who also still have anything to do with the show itself (in other words, have not distanced themselves from it!) are the two whose characters were lumped in as "all the rest" in the first season's (black-and-white year) theme song!

 

[onairb]

Re: Wait, There's More

Last night on Hawaii Five-0, McGarrett 2.0, Danno 2.0, Max and Kamekona talked about how much they loved Magnum PI (and sang the theme).

Magnum PI was set in the same universe as the original Hawaii Five-O and made references to the original McGarrett as a real person, not a TV character.

Magnum used McGarret's name to gain entrance to a criminal's residence in the first season. The way the scene was played, he could have been referring to McGarret as the actual, well-known head of Five-O...or McGarrett still could have been a fictional character, and Magnum, knowing that he was dealing with stupid crooks, was enjoying messing with their minds.

 

[onairb]

The ALF/Gilligan's Island crossover did not include Tina Louise(who had long since walked away from any reunion projects), Jim Backus(who was very ill with Parkinson's by then) or Natalie Schaefer(also in poor health, although Backus and Schaefer did commercial for Orville Redenbacher in 1988).
To explain the characters' absence, the castaways said that the Howells had opened a country club on the other side of the island. Ginger, being a celebrity, jioned, but the others were excluded.

 

[FredLeonard]

The irony here is that the only two still-living original actors from Gilligan's Island who also still have anything to do with the show itself (in other words, have not distanced themselves from it!) are the two whose characters were lumped in as "all the rest" in the first season's (black-and-white year) theme song!

In all fairness, there are only three still-living cast members. The rest "distanced themselves" by dying.

 

[FredLeonard]

Re: Wait, There's More

Magnum used McGarret's name to gain entrance to a criminal's residence in the first season. The way the scene was played, he could have been referring to McGarret as the actual, well-known head of Five-O...or McGarrett still could have been a fictional character, and Magnum, knowing that he was dealing with stupid crooks, was enjoying messing with their minds.

Magnum and the original Five-O existed in the same fictional universe. Magnum and others made several references to McGarrett and Five-O in early seasons (with the implication the two did not get along). Both shows were filmed on the same sound stage in Honolulu.

 

[FredLeonard]

The thread about Mister Ed has gotten into discussing My Mother, the Car. My Mother, the car (two of the writers of which created The Mary Tyler Moore Show) always appeared on the schedule board when it was shown at WJM-TV.

 

[rnigma1]

The only time Tina Louise appeared in any sort of Gilligan reunion was when "Roseanne" featured a dream sequence that parodied "Gilligan's Island," with Roseanne as Ginger, Jackie as Gilligan, Dan as the Skipper, etc. In the closing credits, Tina appeared as Roseanne and Bob Denver was Jackie (and Russ Johnson was there too). Entertainment Tonight did a story on this, and they showed Roseanne rubbing Tina's face to see if her mole was real. (It is.)

 

[BD Sullivan]

Dawn Wells played Darlene as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07Dgpwu0q1U&playnext=1&list=PL019F328C7D1F2044&feature=results_video

 

[visaman]

On an episode of M*A*S*H* (War of Nerves (1977)), Dr. Sidney Freedman mentions people thinking that I Love Lucy is real ( Would the Mashers even know what he was talking about?) ???

 

[Ultimajock]

...of course, there was also the incessant sniping -- often by name -- that Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In would take at Hee Haw for ripping off their format...

...and the feud between That Was The Week That Was and The Jack Paar Program when they were next-door neighbors on NBC's Friday night schedule in 1964...

 

[cd637299]

^ Also I remember a snipe on NBC's "Real People"....

Doggone if I can remember the actual dialogue that took place....I am paraphrasing here:

Cast member: Some shows are take-offs, and of course, some are RIPoffs---
Sarah Purcell (laughing): Oh, that's incredible!

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[firepoint525]

The irony here is that the only two still-living original actors from Gilligan's Island who also still have anything to do with the show itself (in other words, have not distanced themselves from it!) are the two whose characters were lumped in as "all the rest" in the first season's (black-and-white year) theme song!

In all fairness, there are only three still-living cast members. The rest "distanced themselves" by dying.

No, Fred, I said what I meant, and I meant what I said. Russell Johnson and Dawn Wells are the only two surviving castaways who still have anything to do with the show. And their faces were not seen in the opening credits of the black-and-white episodes, nor were their characters mentioned separately in that first season's theme song.

In some TV special about Gilligan's Island, Sherwood Schwartz stated that he pointed out to Tina Louise that the show was NOT named "Ginger's Island." It may have been in that same special when Dawn Wells asked people to sing the theme song, and then good-naturedly chided them for singing "and the rest" in place of "the professor and Mary Ann."

Tina Louise probably never missed Gilligan's Island. I seem to recall that by the time the reunion movie aired (the first one), she had a recurring role on Dallas.

 

[FredLeonard]

Tina Louise probably never missed Gilligan's Island. I seem to recall that by the time the reunion movie aired (the first one), she had a recurring role on Dallas.

Only during the mini-series and first full season. She played the secretary at Ewing Oil and had affairs with both Jock and J.R. (not at the same time). From recent pictures, she still looks great. Maybe they should bring her back for the revival and she can have an affair with John Ross.

 

[anotherguyTN]

On an episode of M*A*S*H* (War of Nerves (1977)), Dr. Sidney Freedman mentions people thinking that I Love Lucy is real ( Would the Mashers even know what he was talking about?) ???

I had mentioned that in the earlier thread, but couldn't remember the episode it was in. THanks for confirming it!

 

[firepoint525]

Tina Louise probably never missed Gilligan's Island. I seem to recall that by the time the reunion movie aired (the first one), she had a recurring role on Dallas.

Only during the mini-series and first full season. She played the secretary at Ewing Oil and had affairs with both Jock and J.R. (not at the same time). From recent pictures, she still looks great. Maybe they should bring her back for the revival and she can have an affair with John Ross.

I knew that it wasn't for long, hence calling it a recurring role. I only remember that she was on Dallas about the same time that Rescue from Gilligan's Island aired. It was 1978, and I was a freshman in high school. I had yet to start watching Dallas on any regular basis, and was not doing so until much later, when Donna Reed was Miss Ellie, and the "dream season" of a couple of years later.

It would be interesting to know if any "dream season" episodes ever aired as reruns anywhere. ;D

 

[BD Sullivan]

Tina Louise probably never missed Gilligan's Island. I seem to recall that by the time the reunion movie aired (the first one), she had a recurring role on Dallas.

It would be interesting to know if any "dream season" episodes ever aired as reruns anywhere. ;D

When The Nashville Network showed the series in the mid 90's, they were shown.

 

[desertv]

And who could forget the episode of Seinfeld where Kramer discovers the studio set from the Merv Griffin show and moves it into his apartment!