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REALITY TV MOM EXPECTING 20TH CHILD

gregg75

gregg75

How much longer until she gets a hysterectomy? She's 45 now, for crying out loud! She's made a mockery of childbirth! Her last child was a preemie, and spent time in the hospital. Enough already, Duggers! Hopefully, they have run out of "J" names by now! ::)
 
gregg75 said:
So glad I don't watch this crap. Kids may have cost them a lot, but they sure saved a
lot on condoms.
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Their 19 child deductions have saved them a fortune on taxes as well.
I wonder who makes up the difference by paying more to the IRS?
 
It's really their own business, so long as they are able to feed, clothe, house and educate their kids.
By the look of things it appears that they have been able to.

The just-crowned Miss World is one of 13 kids. My grandparents were one of 10 and 11 respectively.
This used to be much more common.

I would not want to see a situation like David Beckham and Posh Spice ran into in England where they
had kid #4 and suddenly everyone was looking at them like they were stealing their air.

I agree with the one poster though that at age 45 they are courting some serious problems for
both baby and mother.
 
kenglish said:
gregg75 said:
So glad I don't watch this crap. Kids may have cost them a lot, but they sure saved a
lot on condoms.
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Their 19 child deductions have saved them a fortune on taxes as well.
I wonder who makes up the difference by paying more to the IRS?
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They wouldn't have had 19 deductions for the past year or two, as their oldest is married and has a couple of kids of his own.
 
I don't think we have any right to tell people how many children they do or don't have- provided that they are given food, shelter, emotional care and all of the other necessities for the proper rearing of children.

However, there is something to be said for the selfish nature of people who decide to have 20 children. Its morally irresponsible. There is no way a set of parents can properly nurture and give the necessary attention to 20 children. Its just not humanly possible. On top of that, its socially irresponsible to boot. We live on a planet with limited resources and an exponentially growing population problem. To continue to bring hoards of children onto this planet is irresponsible at least, neglectful and reprehensible at worst.
 
"However, there is something to be said for the selfish nature of people who decide to have 20 children. It is morally irresponsible. There is no way a set of parents can properly nurture and give the necessary attention to 20 children. Its just not humanly possible."

Funny how that wasn't a "problem" a century ago, when large litters were common. This "morally and socially irresponsible" business was something that's just been thought up within the last few decades.

On the other hand, I myself happened to be an only child, and growing up couldn't imagine having to share that paradise with another related human being at or near my age ("you mean the kid next door I always play with has three sisters and two brothers? Man....that guy must be crackers......." ;o)
 
Darth_vader said:
Funny how that wasn't a "problem" a century ago, when large litters were common. This "morally and socially irresponsible" business was something that's just been thought up within the last few decades.
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Overpopulation was not a problem in most parts of the world a century ago.
 
Darth_vader said:
Funny how that wasn't a "problem" a century ago, when large litters were common. This "morally and socially irresponsible" business was something that's just been thought up within the last few decades.
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Though a century ago, many of those kids didn't make it to maturity.
 
w9wi said:
Darth_vader said:
Funny how that wasn't a "problem" a century ago, when large litters were common. This "morally and socially irresponsible" business was something that's just been thought up within the last few decades.
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Though a century ago, many of those kids didn't make it to maturity.
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Even those who lived to be adults, most were lucky if they lived to 40 or 50. Advances in living longer is why we now must limit how many blood related children we have. I have heard of couples who had 20 children, but in most of those couples, at the most, only 5 were blood related, & the rest were adopted.

In many mormon sect families (those who still believe in the man having more than 1 wife), they're also known to have in some cases, 30 children, but spread across several women, rather than just 1 woman. Even so, that's too many. Worse for mormon sects, they're also known for marrying 1st cousins (amish also known for marrying 1st cousins, though usually don't have as many children), & some children end up with genetic disorders.
 
firepoint525 said:
kenglish said:
gregg75 said:
So glad I don't watch this crap. Kids may have cost them a lot, but they sure saved a
lot on condoms.
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Their 19 child deductions have saved them a fortune on taxes as well.
I wonder who makes up the difference by paying more to the IRS?
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They wouldn't have had 19 deductions for the past year or two, as their oldest is married and has a couple of kids of his own.
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From the first episode of the new show, we have footage of her oldest son, and see how involved she is in his life. To make ends meet, he has had to get a job as a drummer in a rag-tag band.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50fdZMmrPv4
 
These are not the day of needing more hands to work on the farm, there is something mentally wrong with this woman having 20 children in an over populated
world on the brink and the economy in meltdown, people watching such crap are only enabling her very attention seeking sick behavoir.
 
The world isn't really overpopulated. There is enough food to go around easily. It's distribution of food that it the real problem. You could fit the entire population of the world, standing side by side, in the city of Jacksonville, FL.

At best you can say, sections of the world, like Tokyo, Mumbai and Shanghai are overpopulated, but Japan, India and China all have areas where it's underpopulated.

You have to remember she is giving birth one at a time and each of those kids is also helping to raise their siblings in a way. So the mother can give proper attention to the little ones. Because as the kids age, the older ones need less attention. You could make a reasonable argument that siblings helping to raise their siblings isn't fair, but I don't see it as a crime.

I had two brothers and a sister, and when I was 5 my brother was 15. I can see how sharing a bedroom with me, at age 5, would be hard on a teen aged 15 year old, but it's no real big deal.

I'm not saying there aren't issues, the whole situation could be whacked but I don't think you can say it's off simply because of numbers. Yes, the more kids, the more problems, but the likelihood of an issue, doesn't mean the issue must exist. The same way I'd say, two parents is the best situation. But one parent (male or female) can do an equally good job. It's just not ideal and they'll have to put in more effort

As for late life babies, the issue is more about first babies than anything else. You find birth problems in women over 40 that have never given birth. If a woman has had babies before 40 and especially 35, the rate of problems over 40 drops. My own mother gave birth to me at 45 and the previous time she was 35. She said, my birth was the easiest time she had and one of the easiest she had seen. She was a nurse in pediatrics so was present at a lot of births.

I'm not saying any of you are wrong, you could be right. I'm just saying, you really have to judge each case individually. This woman may very well have problems and the kids may be in trouble. Or not, I'm just saying size alone can't be the factor
 
I happened by a show tonight about the 10 most hated attention seeking nit wits and she came in second only to Casey Anthony. The more I saw about miss
pop'em out like pop corn.....it was enough to make me loose my lunch. She has no money or no visible means of support. She should be stopped before she causes harm to her children past, present or future, not to mention the tax payers and the mess these likely future wards of the state will cause society.
With freedom comes responsibility.....something American idiot society has long abandoned.
 
chrish said:
I happened by a show tonight about the 10 most hated attention seeking nit wits and she came in second only to Casey Anthony. The more I saw about miss
pop'em out like pop corn.....it was enough to make me loose my lunch. She has no money or no visible means of support. She should be stopped before she causes harm to her children past, present or future, not to mention the tax payers and the mess these likely future wards of the state will cause society.
With freedom comes responsibility.....something American idiot society has long abandoned.
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Are you talking about the Duggars or Octomom?
Or is Kate Gosselin back in the mix and I missed it?
 
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