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mario
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Lite FM 93.9 HD has not been turned on yet (pun intended) but when it is, you'll find RealOldies 1690 on its HD2.
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AnotherBigFan
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> Lite FM 93.9 HD has not been turned on yet (pun intended)
> but when it is, you'll find RealOldies 1690 on its HD2.
>
That's good news!
(Now if only I had me one of those HD tuners...)
> but when it is, you'll find RealOldies 1690 on its HD2.
>
That's good news!
(Now if only I had me one of those HD tuners...)
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mario
Guest
> > > Lite FM 93.9 HD has not been turned on yet (pun
> intended)
> > > but when it is, you'll find RealOldies 1690 on its HD2.
> > >
> > That's good news!
> >
> > (Now if only I had me one of those HD tuners...)
> >
> YIPPEEE Now we have two oldies stations that we can't listen
> to
>
LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great comment
> intended)
> > > but when it is, you'll find RealOldies 1690 on its HD2.
> > >
> > That's good news!
> >
> > (Now if only I had me one of those HD tuners...)
> >
> YIPPEEE Now we have two oldies stations that we can't listen
> to
>
LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great comment
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magicmk
Guest
> > > > Lite FM 93.9 HD has not been turned on yet (pun
> > intended)
> > > > but when it is, you'll find RealOldies 1690 on its
> HD2.
> > > >
> > > That's good news!
> > >
> > > (Now if only I had me one of those HD tuners...)
> > >
> > YIPPEEE Now we have two oldies stations that we can't
> listen
> > to
> >
> LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great comment
>
LOL, I got a good chuckle out of that too. I'm beginning to wonder with the matriculation of these new multicasts that are popping up now, if new receivers might possibly be a big hit when the holiday gift giving season arrives? (probably moreso in the bigger markets than smaller ones)
> > intended)
> > > > but when it is, you'll find RealOldies 1690 on its
> HD2.
> > > >
> > > That's good news!
> > >
> > > (Now if only I had me one of those HD tuners...)
> > >
> > YIPPEEE Now we have two oldies stations that we can't
> listen
> > to
> >
> LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great comment
>
LOL, I got a good chuckle out of that too. I'm beginning to wonder with the matriculation of these new multicasts that are popping up now, if new receivers might possibly be a big hit when the holiday gift giving season arrives? (probably moreso in the bigger markets than smaller ones)
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eggsdannythomas
Guest
> I'm beginning to wonder with the matriculation of these new multicasts that
> are popping up now, if new receivers might possibly be a big
> hit when the holiday gift giving season arrives?
Nobody is buying HD recievers, there are no walkman style units, just those Boston acoustic shelf radios or the Tivoli Henry Kloss models. And those radios are for yuppies. They start at $300.
And I'm not tearing up my dashboard just to listen to Larry Lujack.
What I am starting to think, which backs up your comment Matt, is that maybe the '06 and '07 automobiles will be arriving on dealer's lots with HD radios built in already. I remember Chrysler did that in the mid eighties with AM stereo. Most Chrysler , Dodge and Plymouth factory radios had AM stereo, it helped the technology advance to where it is today.
OK nevermind that. I still think that alot of cars are going to have it in the next few model years so that is why the broadcasters are putting the full court press on.
> are popping up now, if new receivers might possibly be a big
> hit when the holiday gift giving season arrives?
Nobody is buying HD recievers, there are no walkman style units, just those Boston acoustic shelf radios or the Tivoli Henry Kloss models. And those radios are for yuppies. They start at $300.
And I'm not tearing up my dashboard just to listen to Larry Lujack.
What I am starting to think, which backs up your comment Matt, is that maybe the '06 and '07 automobiles will be arriving on dealer's lots with HD radios built in already. I remember Chrysler did that in the mid eighties with AM stereo. Most Chrysler , Dodge and Plymouth factory radios had AM stereo, it helped the technology advance to where it is today.
OK nevermind that. I still think that alot of cars are going to have it in the next few model years so that is why the broadcasters are putting the full court press on.
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OldiesCat
Guest
RealOldies1690
That will be true for 99% of radio listeners for a number of years to come.
>
> (Now if only I had me one of those HD tuners...)
>
That will be true for 99% of radio listeners for a number of years to come.
>
> (Now if only I had me one of those HD tuners...)
>
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magicmk
Guest
Re: HD receivers
> Nobody is buying HD recievers, there are no walkman style
> units, just those Boston acoustic shelf radios or the Tivoli
> Henry Kloss models. And those radios are for yuppies. They
> start at $300.
>
> And I'm not tearing up my dashboard just to listen to Larry
> Lujack.
>
> What I am starting to think, which backs up your comment
> Matt, is that maybe the '06 and '07 automobiles will be
> arriving on dealer's lots with HD radios built in already.
> I remember Chrysler did that in the mid eighties with AM
> stereo. Most Chrysler , Dodge and Plymouth factory radios
> had AM stereo, it helped the technology advance to where it
> is today.
>
I have to quickly admit that I'm far from knowledgeable on HD radio... I'm a bit behind on the learning curve compared to many others here on the board. I spent some time reading/researching over the weekend, and even surfed over to Crutchfield's web site to see what sort of HD-compatible receivers were on the market for sale. There's a limited number of them (Kenwood seems to have a good jump on it for car receivers), but reading the specs I couldn't get an idea of which ones were multi-cast capable and which ones weren't. Or perhaps they all were. I'm still without half a clue on this.
I don't think it's too far fetched to say that most or all of the top 60 radio markets could have one or more stations doing multi-casting before the end of the year. (Ibiquity actually has some info on their site as to who and where has gone digital and multicasting so far.) Retailers generally begin to prepare for the christmas season in September... it just happened to get me wondering if the timing might work out, although the rollout for HD broadcasting could well not happen fast enough to impact the electronics market for this season. As for the automakers, I thought I had read in one of the monthly car publications that some of them were hoping to install OEM HD-compatible radios as soon as '06... I doubt that is firm as to whether that will happen right at the beginning of the model year or perhaps later and closer to 2007.
> Nobody is buying HD recievers, there are no walkman style
> units, just those Boston acoustic shelf radios or the Tivoli
> Henry Kloss models. And those radios are for yuppies. They
> start at $300.
>
> And I'm not tearing up my dashboard just to listen to Larry
> Lujack.
>
> What I am starting to think, which backs up your comment
> Matt, is that maybe the '06 and '07 automobiles will be
> arriving on dealer's lots with HD radios built in already.
> I remember Chrysler did that in the mid eighties with AM
> stereo. Most Chrysler , Dodge and Plymouth factory radios
> had AM stereo, it helped the technology advance to where it
> is today.
>
I have to quickly admit that I'm far from knowledgeable on HD radio... I'm a bit behind on the learning curve compared to many others here on the board. I spent some time reading/researching over the weekend, and even surfed over to Crutchfield's web site to see what sort of HD-compatible receivers were on the market for sale. There's a limited number of them (Kenwood seems to have a good jump on it for car receivers), but reading the specs I couldn't get an idea of which ones were multi-cast capable and which ones weren't. Or perhaps they all were. I'm still without half a clue on this.
I don't think it's too far fetched to say that most or all of the top 60 radio markets could have one or more stations doing multi-casting before the end of the year. (Ibiquity actually has some info on their site as to who and where has gone digital and multicasting so far.) Retailers generally begin to prepare for the christmas season in September... it just happened to get me wondering if the timing might work out, although the rollout for HD broadcasting could well not happen fast enough to impact the electronics market for this season. As for the automakers, I thought I had read in one of the monthly car publications that some of them were hoping to install OEM HD-compatible radios as soon as '06... I doubt that is firm as to whether that will happen right at the beginning of the model year or perhaps later and closer to 2007.
> Most Chrysler , Dodge and Plymouth factory radios
> had AM stereo, it helped the technology advance to where it
> is today.
And exactly WHERE did it advance TO today ???????? Oblivian?????
> had AM stereo, it helped the technology advance to where it
> is today.
And exactly WHERE did it advance TO today ???????? Oblivian?????
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magicmk
Guest
Re: HD receivers
> IMO
>
> It will take at least ten years to make it mainstream....at
> least!
>
> Remember laser discs? (I remember a friend bragging that
> his would "turn the movie over for him" as a great feature)
>
> DVD took, what, 10-15 years to really catch on like today?
>
Good points... keep in mind that technology is advancing at a faster rate than it was 15, 20, or 30 years ago (compare the cost of a flat panel tv today versus one or two years ago). The technology gets cheaper to produce and sell, demand goes up, product becomes mainstream and competition drives the price down (eventually). Compared to VHS, Laserdiscs were large and a bit cumbersome, I don't know that they really stood much of a chance from the get-go compared to DVD (yes I do remember... I remember VIDEO discs for crying out loud... LOL).
Don't wanna digress too much... the lingering question in the back of my mind is that with the advent of HD Radio, you now have yet an additional medium competing for audio time, with analog radio, satellite, internet radio, MP3 podcasts, and of course all the pre-recorded media options. With heavyweight media gorillas like Clear Channel, Infinity and the like, all out there pushing and supporting this thing along with the government, odds are on for it to survive, but in the long run, it seems to me that something's gonna have to give.
> IMO
>
> It will take at least ten years to make it mainstream....at
> least!
>
> Remember laser discs? (I remember a friend bragging that
> his would "turn the movie over for him" as a great feature)
>
> DVD took, what, 10-15 years to really catch on like today?
>
Good points... keep in mind that technology is advancing at a faster rate than it was 15, 20, or 30 years ago (compare the cost of a flat panel tv today versus one or two years ago). The technology gets cheaper to produce and sell, demand goes up, product becomes mainstream and competition drives the price down (eventually). Compared to VHS, Laserdiscs were large and a bit cumbersome, I don't know that they really stood much of a chance from the get-go compared to DVD (yes I do remember... I remember VIDEO discs for crying out loud... LOL).
Don't wanna digress too much... the lingering question in the back of my mind is that with the advent of HD Radio, you now have yet an additional medium competing for audio time, with analog radio, satellite, internet radio, MP3 podcasts, and of course all the pre-recorded media options. With heavyweight media gorillas like Clear Channel, Infinity and the like, all out there pushing and supporting this thing along with the government, odds are on for it to survive, but in the long run, it seems to me that something's gonna have to give.
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eggsdannythomas
Guest
> AM stereo, it helped the technology advance to where it
> > is today.
> >
>
> WOW! AM Stereo advanced?
>
>
>
Sarcasm my friend!
> > is today.
> >
>
> WOW! AM Stereo advanced?
>
>
>
Sarcasm my friend!
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eggsdannythomas
Guest
> > Most Chrysler , Dodge and Plymouth factory radios
> > had AM stereo, it helped the technology advance to where
> it
> > is today.
>
> And exactly WHERE did it advance TO today ????????
> Oblivian?????
>
Sarcasm, my friend!
> > had AM stereo, it helped the technology advance to where
> it
> > is today.
>
> And exactly WHERE did it advance TO today ????????
> Oblivian?????
>
Sarcasm, my friend!
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Large_106
Guest
> Lite FM 93.9 HD has not been turned on yet (pun intended)
> but when it is, you'll find RealOldies 1690 on its HD2.
>
Wouldn't it have been smarter for Clear Channel to put that on WNUA's HD2 channel to compete with WJMK's HD2 right out of the gate? The market for Oldies is larger than for straight Jazz (and WBEZ and its simulcasters play it after 8PM already.) And the WNUA HD2 channel has no personality, imaging or even legal IDs.
At least WVAZ's HD2 channel (for the short time it was up) sounded like a real radio station with imaging and legal IDs and a good variety of songs and artists, as opposed to WNUA's HD2 channel that consistently plays 6 or more songs in a row by the same artist without any imaging like a bad I-Pod playlist.
Since Clear Channel isn't putting any effort into the WNUA HD2 signal, they really should put Real Oldies on there. Plus, I'd love to hear a distinct WLIT HD channel with all 80's music or more deep cuts from their library. If WVAZ can augment their Urban AC with Dusties, WLIT should be able to do something similar once they get their HD2 signal up and running.
> but when it is, you'll find RealOldies 1690 on its HD2.
>
Wouldn't it have been smarter for Clear Channel to put that on WNUA's HD2 channel to compete with WJMK's HD2 right out of the gate? The market for Oldies is larger than for straight Jazz (and WBEZ and its simulcasters play it after 8PM already.) And the WNUA HD2 channel has no personality, imaging or even legal IDs.
At least WVAZ's HD2 channel (for the short time it was up) sounded like a real radio station with imaging and legal IDs and a good variety of songs and artists, as opposed to WNUA's HD2 channel that consistently plays 6 or more songs in a row by the same artist without any imaging like a bad I-Pod playlist.
Since Clear Channel isn't putting any effort into the WNUA HD2 signal, they really should put Real Oldies on there. Plus, I'd love to hear a distinct WLIT HD channel with all 80's music or more deep cuts from their library. If WVAZ can augment their Urban AC with Dusties, WLIT should be able to do something similar once they get their HD2 signal up and running.
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