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Rebel Radio gone!

Anyone who is surprised by this obviously doesn't know how crappy heavy metal sounds on AM.

Is the latest Spanish format only on 1500, or simulcasting one of the other stations?
 
Sorry to say...Heavy Metal wasn't working on AM-1500, wasn't pulling in enough revenue to cover expenses. The limited signal coverage really didn't help the format at all. And as was previously mentioned Heavy Metal really sounds lousy on AM radio.

Rebel Radio will have better luck on the Internet once it gets up and running. I wish them all the best.
 
And as was previously mentioned Heavy Metal really sounds lousy on AM radio.


Totally disagree. Music on AM can sound almost as good as FM if you use the right radio. Likely you are using a lousy radio. With a RCA Superadio III, after tuning the desired station as best as possible, move the AFC switch to 'ON'. Then, move the WIDE BAND switch from 'NORMAL' to 'WIDE', and you won't believe your ears.

Rebel's last day was Wednesday last week, so the format lasted just over 2 years. Also, I noticed that the Sunday simulcast on 1330 WKTA from 4 PM-8 PM also disappeared after 16 years. Polnet is really making a foolish decision by flipping to Spanish. AM 1500 has already tried a Spanish format 4 times in the past, and every time Spanish has FAILED!

Likely Scott Davidson will end up broadcasting Rebel Radio on another station. Rebel has aired on numerous other stations since it began in 1994 (not including G-Force 1330 which started in the late 80's).
 
AM Radio can sound good...but Heavy Metal on AM Radio won't...Metal is best played on FM or better yet....The Internet.

My understanding is that Rebel Radio will have their Internet Stream up and running by late today or in worst case by the weeks end. :)
 
AM Radio can sound good...but Heavy Metal on AM Radio won't...Metal is best played on FM or better yet....The Internet.


All music (including Heavy Metal) can sound very good on AM when using a high performance AM radio. Both AM 1500 and especially AM 1330, after their power increase a couple years ago, sound excellent.

Another high performance AM radio is the CCRadio-EP manufactured by C. Crane Company:


http://www.ccrane.com/radios/am-fm-radios/ccradio-ep.aspx

http://radiointel.net/radio-receiver-reviews-info/c-crane-cc-radio-ep/
 
avtosalon said:
All music (including Heavy Metal) can sound very good on AM when using a high performance AM radio. Both AM 1500 and especially AM 1330, after their power increase a couple years ago, sound excellent.

AM can sound good...if the audio is treated in the same manner as it was back in the 80's-90's. Back when AM stations cared about their sound. All it takes is a station engineer that cares about the sound and knows how to get it. Many of todays station engineers are more concerned with how high the modulation meter reads or how loud the station is and audio quality suffers. Louder 'ain't" better! ;)
 
I don't think the sound quality of AM is the limiting factor here-- it's the signal itself. It's just too weak in the directions where most people live. I think that's why it didn't do well with any of its previous formats for the last 10 years.
 
audioguy said:
I don't think the sound quality of AM is the limiting factor here-- it's the signal itself. It's just too weak in the directions where most people live. I think that's why it didn't do well with any of its previous formats for the last 10 years.

Agreed.
 
avtosalon said:
All music (including Heavy Metal) can sound very good on AM when using a high performance AM radio. Both AM 1500 and especially AM 1330, after their power increase a couple years ago, sound excellent.

AM can sound good...if the audio is treated in the same manner as it was back in the 80's-90's. Back when AM stations cared about their sound. All it takes is a station engineer that cares about the sound and knows how to get it. Many of today's station engineers are more concerned with how high the modulation meter reads or how loud the station is and audio quality suffers. Louder 'ain't" better! ;)
The Notorious Thread Reviver strikes again!

People can call me someone who lives in the past, but I don't think AM has to be dying the way that it is now. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but can't a quality analog AM transmission standard - especially in stereo - be implemented? Can quality radios which can pick up AM stereo for a reasonable price be available to the public?

I feel that niche music formats can survive on AM if marketed right. In Vancouver Washington, just outside of Portland OR KKSN (910) signed on simulcasting KNRK-HD2 (94.7), whic broadcasts a local-Alternative format http://www.947.fm/. How well this is working out for them remains to be seen. From what I understand, Rebel Radio had a decent history in Chicago until a few years ago. Even its predecessor on 1330, G-Force was credible. While I'm at it, one source of advertising AM stations in general might want to consider is from manufactures of quality AM receivers and antennas.

e.g.: http://www.ccrane.com/antennas/am-antennas/
http://www.amazon.com/Terk-Indoor-AM-Antenna-ADVANTAGE/dp/B000069EUW
http://www.amazon.com/Kaito-200-Tunable-Passive-Antenna/dp/B001PNNXGO/ref=pd_cp_e_1
http://www.amazon.com/Sangean-WR-2-Digital-Tabletop-Black/product-reviews/B0009ZAA42/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
http://www.amazon.com/SANGEAN-WR-11-Table-Top-Radio/product-reviews/B001BGGD8A/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

Yeah, I realize some of these do cost an arm and a leg now, but hopefully that can change.

Now, with an alternative niche format, some of these broadcasters might want to consider alternative forms of advertisement and maybe even revenue. In the case of any form of alternative - underground or something similar - concert promotions, motorcycle shows, car shows or other special exhibits should all be considerations.

FTR, is Rebel Radio completely gone off WKTA?
 
FTR, is Rebel Radio completely gone off WKTA?


Yes, the Sunday simulcast (4 PM - 8 PM) of 1500 WPJX and 1330 WKTA ended in February of this year when 1500 went Spanish (for the 5th time!). Rebel Radio's Sunday show lasted 16 years on WKTA.

The pathetic WPJX Spanish programming was given any unsold/available weekend slots on 1330 WKTA and 1430 WEEF.

There was a plan for Rebel Radio to move to overnights on 105.5 WYKT Wilmington, Illinois, but I think that never happened. So for now, Rebel can now be heard 24/7 on the internet:

http://www.RebelRadio.com
 
I remember we had metal on AM here in Houston back in the late 80s. KRBE ran the Z Rock format on its 1070 AM station. It didn't sound too bad. But it was also in AM stereo.
 
rageradio said:
I remember we had metal on AM here in Houston back in the late 80s. KRBE ran the Z Rock format on its 1070 AM station. It didn't sound too bad. But it was also in AM stereo.

That station used the calls KKZR as a Z-Rock affiliate. It was on from early 1988 until the end of 1990. I suppose SMN terminated the agreement as Lee Abrams had taken over and wanted to move the format more mainstream and onto FM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KNTH
http://www.zrockready.com/stations
Having a stereo signal does help; so does a wide band radio.
 
avtosalon said:
FTR, is Rebel Radio completely gone off WKTA?


Yes, the Sunday simulcast (4 PM - 8 PM) of 1500 WPJX and 1330 WKTA ended in February of this year when 1500 went Spanish (for the 5th time!). Rebel Radio's Sunday show lasted 16 years on WKTA.

The pathetic WPJX Spanish programming was given any unsold/available weekend slots on 1330 WKTA and 1430 WEEF.

There was a plan for Rebel Radio to move to overnights on 105.5 WYKT Wilmington, Illinois, but I think that never happened. So for now, Rebel can now be heard 24/7 on the internet:

http://www.RebelRadio.com
All I can say is 'what a waste!' It would be better for some of these marginal AMs to do some niche programming rather than some half-concocted, degenerated ethnic or religious format. I also think many of these AMs are overvalued!
 
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