Rematsered oldies.

[oldies76]

BMG's 9 CD set, the Fabulous Fifties has a re-record of "Diana" by Paul Anka....Sort of suprising since nearly all of the tracks are originals.

 

[PirateJohnny]

How do some companies flip the left and right channels? I've been sorting out my duplicates and noticed quite a few from the early/mid 60s are flipped.

 

[TheFonz]

BMG's 9 CD set, the Fabulous Fifties has a re-record of "Diana" by Paul Anka....Sort of suprising since nearly all of the tracks are originals.

BMG is a subsidiary of RCA. Paul Anka recorded for RCA after he left ABC Paramount. He re-recorded most of his ABC hits for a RCA album.

 

[TheFonz]

.......he adds his own music track to the original song.

He really doesn't. The fake stereo effect is created with a computer program using echos and delays.

 

[TheFonz]

but it isn't the original song in true stereo either as it was heard.

The original song was never recorded in true stereo, so it was never "heard" in true stereo.

 

[howardm]

Sorry for slight deviation, but Fats Domino 45 Walking To New Orleans, Imperial 5675, had a stereo version, verified by Jerry Osborne, ace record value expert. Weren't a few Fabian Chancellor 45's issued in stereo?

 

[TheFonz]

Sorry for slight deviation, but Fats Domino 45 Walking To New Orleans, Imperial 5675, had a stereo version, verified by Jerry Osborne, ace record value expert. Weren't a few Fabian Chancellor 45's issued in stereo?

Over the years I've seen quite a few 45s from the late '50s in stereo, mostly on eBay. I don't remember seeing them in record stores "back in the day" so I'm thinking that stereo 45s were issued mainly for juke boxes. Most people didn't have stereo record players in their homes until the early to mid'60s. Even then, LPs were issued in stereo but stereo 45s didn't show up in stores until the late '60s.

 

[hornet61]

Sorry for slight deviation, but Fats Domino 45 Walking To New Orleans, Imperial 5675, had a stereo version, verified by Jerry Osborne, ace record value expert. Weren't a few Fabian Chancellor 45's issued in stereo?

Over the years I've seen quite a few 45s from the late '50s in stereo, mostly on eBay. I don't remember seeing them in record stores "back in the day" so I'm thinking that stereo 45s were issued mainly for juke boxes. Most people didn't have stereo record players in their homes until the early to mid'60s. Even then, LPs were issued in stereo but stereo 45s didn't show up in stores until the late '60s.

"I Want To Walk You Home " from get-go was a poor stereo version....not as super stereo as "I Hear You Knocking" and "Darktown Strutters Ball"...could have been and "Imperial Records" thing...Ricky Nelsons stuff on Imperial sucked as far as quality sound..

 

[CTListener]

I heard an obvious re-recording of the Outsiders' "Time Won't Let Me" on WBOQ Gloucester, MA, yesterday. Didn't even sound like the same lead vocalist and the instrumentals lacked the punchiness of the original. What's the source for this one? For what it's worth, the online player that the station uses usually displays the album the song came from, but in this case only this number/letter string appeared: USCA29001188.

 

[billyg]

the thing with this guy is yes, it is stereo, but he adds his own music track to the original song.
yes it takes work and detication, which i get. however, its not for me.
if you said it wasn't fake stereo, you'd be telling the truth as it isn't.
but it isn't the original song in true stereo either as it was heard.

I agree, like so many 50's recordings it was done "live" in one take, or the instrumental bed was recorded first and then the vocal added later.

These DES (Digitally Extracted Stereo) mixes where they use computer filtering to extract "elements" of the mono mix into separate tracks to remix in stereo are getting better. They'll sound alright on cheap computer speakers, but if you listen to them on a good high power stereo (especially with quality headphones) you'll hear all the nasty phasing artifacts, an "underwater" sound the DES caused.

And it sounds like DoctorKmix is overdubbing things like digital strings and drums to his remixes.. a big no-no! :

Many DES mixes just sound like Duophonic to me and I would never play them on the air.Many sound horrible summed back to mono.

 

[TheFonz]

I agree, like so many 50's recordings it was done "live" in one take, or the instrumental bed was recorded first and then the vocal added later.

These DES (Digitally Extracted Stereo) mixes where they use computer filtering to extract "elements" of the mono mix into separate tracks to remix in stereo are getting better. They'll sound alright on cheap computer speakers, but if you listen to them on a good high power stereo (especially with quality headphones) you'll hear all the nasty phasing artifacts, an "underwater" sound the DES caused.

And it sounds like DoctorKmix is overdubbing things like digital strings and drums to his remixes.. a big no-no! :

Many DES mixes just sound like Duophonic to me and I would never play them on the air.Many sound horrible summed back to mono.

I would agree that fake stereo should never be heard on the radio. As I said in a earlier post, I do some mobile DJ work. When the goal is to fill a room with sound, sometimes the fake stereo sounds better than mono. After all, even most "live" bands aren't perfectly mixed.

 

[unitron]

After reading this thread, I can't help wonder if some are confusing the stereo
mix with the original 45 mono release. MANY were different. Tommy James "Crystal Blue Persuasion" was only EVER released in hit version in mono on 45, same for many Rascals songs. Rhino finally reissued the Atlantic 45 rpm mono mixes of "Good Lovin" and the other early hits on a small box set. That tune, even when summed to mono, doesn't blend right, but the mono Rhino is from the Atlantic Master...same for "Groovin" with the correct harmonica mix.

One great CD source of correct hit versions from the Master tapes you can buy with confidence is Eric Records, the old reissue company. (No, I don't work for them) I''ve bought from them online for some years now, and every track is dead-on correct, clean, and from the master, unless CLEARLY nted that the master has been lost and the track is from 'best sourse available', usually a mint 45 or LP. Some have been lost. Many ABC Paramount singles: Marvellows "I Do", O'Kaysions "Girlwatcher",,. and others classics like Dyna-Voice The Toys "Lovers Concerto" will never be heard in stereo. They do a lot of legwork to find the correct stereo masters. The prices are reasonable and never had a lost delivery. www.ericrecords.com

Rumor had it, decades ago, that Girl Watcher was recorded at Pitt Sound Studios in Greenville, NC.

Maybe they've got the original tape in a closet somewhere.

 

[johnbasalla]

Rhino Records, usually good on doing things straight, released on 45 rpm record the Davy Jones kinda-hit "Rainy Jane" b/w "Girl", the song he sang on an episode of "The Brady Bunch". Well, "Rainy Jane" was shamefully remixed to downplay the horn section, making it less powerful, imo.

 

[hornet61]

I would rather hear the most horrible stereo than the best mono, on FM Radio. But, thats me.