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Reminder : Cousin Oliver killed the Brady Bunch
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failsafe said:
Uh-Ok..It would be nice when you make a hit-and-run statement like that to explain WHY "Cousin Oliver" killed the Brady Bunch..My thoughts, while Oliver didnt exactly help the show, he far from "killed" it..They were in their fifth season..The kids were getting older..Robert Reed didnt want to be there..The show probably had run its course by 1973-74. In fact, there had been talk of having Mike Brady "killed off" If the series had gone to a sixth season..
Okay, Okay, here's what would have happened:
Mike Brady, sitting in a field level seat down the left field line at Dodger Stadium, would be killed after being hit in the head by a line drive off the bat of the Dodgers' Davey Lopes.
Carol Brady, after once again becoming a widow, remarries, and the lucky man is a young stockbroker named Bernard Madoff. She had earlier turned down a proposal from a young promoter named Vincent K. McMahon.
Greg Brady graduates from Pepperdine with a degree in Business Administration, and becomes a junior executive with Western Auto. He later goes to work for Dairy Queen, though not as an executive.
Marcia Brady, after graduating from high school, disdains college, and runs off with the camp of The Bay City Rollers, subsequently marries lead singer Les McKeown, has two daughters with him, wakes up one day and realizes that she truly is Scottish when she has the Scottish Epiphany: She hates Scotland. She returns to the U.S. with her daughters, and settles in Rock Springs, Wyoming, and becomes co-manager of the local pool hall.
Peter Brady becomes a regular at the Pickwick Ice Rink in Burbank, and takes up hockey, with the hopes of one day playing for the local NHL Kings. When no one in pro hockey takes the slightest look at him, he takes up curling, and becomes a better-than-average pro on the Alberta Curling Association circuit. He marries a former Miss Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan, gets divorced and cleaned out in divorce court, and winds up running the only tire shop in Trail, B.C.
Jan Brady attends UCLA, and graduates in three years. After collecting several postgraduate degrees in her spare time, she becomes a professor of Astronomy at Compton Junior College, the alma mater of NFL Commissioner Pete Rozelle. One day while in her office at the college, she makes a startling discovery: Compton College has no Astronomy Dept., and the President of the school is named Slick. She suddenly becomes a substitute teacher in the Long Beach Unified School District, where she meets and marries a PE teacher from Long Beach Poly High. Both her and her husband are retired, and living on royalties from a Signal Hill oil well.
Bobby Brady played minor league baseball in such stops as Bend, Oregon and Ashland, Ky. After not making the majors, he takes a job as a Traffic Enforcement Officer in the newly incorporated city of West Hollywood, Ca. He marries aspiring actress Karen Gerard, who after giving birth to his daughter, leaves him for a Scientology leader. One night, after leaving a traffic ticket on a windshield in West Hollywood, he walks into the nearest bar for a quick drink, and when he comes out, he's wearing the Miss West Hollywood sash and tiara.
Cindy Brady has quite a Senior year at her high school. She becomes homecoming queen, head cheerleader, editor of the school paper and yearbook, president of 5 clubs, represents the school at several youth scholastic seminars, captains the girl's soccer team, and is school valedictorian. Upon the end of the school year, one of her classmates is thumbing through the school yearbook and talking to another girl. As she turns one page after another, she is heard to exclaim "Cindy, Cindy, Cindy! Always Cindy!" Cindy is now married to her second husband, they have two kids, two grandkids, and two mortgages. She runs a telemarketing company in Victorville, Ca.
Alice Nelson, the Bradys' maid, got fed up with the entire family in 1975, entered an order of cloistered nuns in Ojai, Ca., left the order in early 1976, married a Tournament of Roses official, became widowed, and helped start the Wiccan movement in the U.S. She now resides in the South of Market district of San Francisco.
Cousin Oliver sold programs at Laker games, hawked USC merchandise at home games, sold jams & jellies at Knott's Berry Farm, and later held the "SLOW" sign for Caltrans maintenance crews on various freeways. He is now in charge of script development at Paramount Pictures.
There now. Now you have it. You can now rest at night knowing what would have happened to them if there had been a sixth season.
Remember, you read it here first!
Mike Brady, sitting in a field level seat down the left field line at Dodger Stadium, would be killed after being hit in the head by a line drive off the bat of the Dodgers' Davey Lopes.
Carol Brady, after once again becoming a widow, remarries, and the lucky man is a young stockbroker named Bernard Madoff. She had earlier turned down a proposal from a young promoter named Vincent K. McMahon.
Greg Brady graduates from Pepperdine with a degree in Business Administration, and becomes a junior executive with Western Auto. He later goes to work for Dairy Queen, though not as an executive.
Marcia Brady, after graduating from high school, disdains college, and runs off with the camp of The Bay City Rollers, subsequently marries lead singer Les McKeown, has two daughters with him, wakes up one day and realizes that she truly is Scottish when she has the Scottish Epiphany: She hates Scotland. She returns to the U.S. with her daughters, and settles in Rock Springs, Wyoming, and becomes co-manager of the local pool hall.
Peter Brady becomes a regular at the Pickwick Ice Rink in Burbank, and takes up hockey, with the hopes of one day playing for the local NHL Kings. When no one in pro hockey takes the slightest look at him, he takes up curling, and becomes a better-than-average pro on the Alberta Curling Association circuit. He marries a former Miss Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan, gets divorced and cleaned out in divorce court, and winds up running the only tire shop in Trail, B.C.
Jan Brady attends UCLA, and graduates in three years. After collecting several postgraduate degrees in her spare time, she becomes a professor of Astronomy at Compton Junior College, the alma mater of NFL Commissioner Pete Rozelle. One day while in her office at the college, she makes a startling discovery: Compton College has no Astronomy Dept., and the President of the school is named Slick. She suddenly becomes a substitute teacher in the Long Beach Unified School District, where she meets and marries a PE teacher from Long Beach Poly High. Both her and her husband are retired, and living on royalties from a Signal Hill oil well.
Bobby Brady played minor league baseball in such stops as Bend, Oregon and Ashland, Ky. After not making the majors, he takes a job as a Traffic Enforcement Officer in the newly incorporated city of West Hollywood, Ca. He marries aspiring actress Karen Gerard, who after giving birth to his daughter, leaves him for a Scientology leader. One night, after leaving a traffic ticket on a windshield in West Hollywood, he walks into the nearest bar for a quick drink, and when he comes out, he's wearing the Miss West Hollywood sash and tiara.
Cindy Brady has quite a Senior year at her high school. She becomes homecoming queen, head cheerleader, editor of the school paper and yearbook, president of 5 clubs, represents the school at several youth scholastic seminars, captains the girl's soccer team, and is school valedictorian. Upon the end of the school year, one of her classmates is thumbing through the school yearbook and talking to another girl. As she turns one page after another, she is heard to exclaim "Cindy, Cindy, Cindy! Always Cindy!" Cindy is now married to her second husband, they have two kids, two grandkids, and two mortgages. She runs a telemarketing company in Victorville, Ca.
Alice Nelson, the Bradys' maid, got fed up with the entire family in 1975, entered an order of cloistered nuns in Ojai, Ca., left the order in early 1976, married a Tournament of Roses official, became widowed, and helped start the Wiccan movement in the U.S. She now resides in the South of Market district of San Francisco.
Cousin Oliver sold programs at Laker games, hawked USC merchandise at home games, sold jams & jellies at Knott's Berry Farm, and later held the "SLOW" sign for Caltrans maintenance crews on various freeways. He is now in charge of script development at Paramount Pictures.
There now. Now you have it. You can now rest at night knowing what would have happened to them if there had been a sixth season.
Remember, you read it here first!
RicoGregg said:
(golf clap) Nice!.
Speaking of which: Whatever happened to Ricky Seagall, the little neighbor boy on The Partridge Family who sang and also appeared in the 1973-1974 season as well? I wonder if he ruined The Partridge Family in the same way that people think that Robbie Rist did with The Brady Bunch.
RicoGregg said:
And here I thought she ended up marrying Ken Ober of MTV's Remote Control. (The Cindy Brady Channel). ;D
I suppose this all means that Seven and the second Buck the Dog killed Married With Children.
And little Andy killed Family Ties.
And...and...and....the entire cast moving to California killed 'Laverne & Shirley'.
Tom Wells said:
I don't think so. Chachi came along in season 5 and the show ran a total of 11 seasons. Chachi was a replacement for Fonzie's cousin/nephew Spike who never caught on a season or two earlier.
Without Chachi, we would never have had http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfl_1ndey4c ;D
Braves2005 said:
Ricky Segall, that little boy seen in the last season of The Partridge Family (1973-1974) is now the Rev. Richard Segall, a Protestant minister, married and has at least two kids in his brood. I highly doubt he was the cause of the end of the series. What killed the series was that the show was getting a bit stale after 4 seasons. ABC moved this once very popular show from Fridays at 8:30 to Saturdays at 8. Of course "All In The Family" on CBS was the favorite for years at that same time slot. It wasn't even a contest. It was more like a network execution. What's more, most of the audience who watched The Partridge Family during the first three seasons (1970-1973) had pretty much outgrown the show, much as the same audience had outgrown The Brady Bunch. So, I hardly think that Robbie Rist and Ricky Segall we're the catalysts for the demise of their respective shows. The times they were a changin'. They were great while they lasted.
Peter Q. George (K1XRB) said:
Chances are David Cassidy's disenchantment with both the role on the show and the role as teen idol also led to its demise.
On the other hand, The Partridge Family came back in Fall 1974 as an animated series, "Partridge Family: 2200 AD" -- on CBS. Also that Fall, reruns of "The Partridge Family" debuted in syndication; like "The Brady Bunch", they were very successful in finding a new audience after cancellation.
I heard Cousin Oliver was so mean, he once shot a man, just for snoring.
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Yes, thanks for that reminder!
The Brady Bunch was dying a slow death already, but may have lived one more season had Cousin Oliver not come in with a semi-automatic weapon (loaded with hollow tips) to put it out of its misery - and fast. That last season had a lot of episodes that were groaners, but Cousin Oliver did more damage to the show than Ted McGinley on a bender! A brutal addition to the cast, just brutal.
As for Chachi, he didn't kill Happy Days; he just made it suck. Watch an early episode (first 2 seasons), then watch one with Chachi. The level of 'quality' tanked in a major way and anyone older than the age of 12 would find the early episodes far more enjoyable than the later ones. They even forgot about the setting - early episodes were very careful to make the setting as authentic (time and place) as possible. By the time Chachi showed up and started taking center stage, you could hardly remember that the show was supposed to take place in 1957 or so. By then it was about 1977 and seemed it on the show. Chachi NEVER looked like a 50s kid. Not even a juvenile delinquent in that era would have had feathered hair and clothes like his. They just gave up on trying by then.
The thing is, remembering how popular the show was at the time, it didn't matter that it morphed into a lowbrow howlfest. Happy Days was too popular to fail for a while. As long as the Fonz was there, it was still hugely successful. However, it did take on the aura of a kids show in those later seasons. With so little competition at the time, the producers could get away with that. If the same thing happened now (with all of the programming options that we have now), I do not think that Days would have lasted nearly as long.
And, did I mention, Chachi sucked.
The Brady Bunch was dying a slow death already, but may have lived one more season had Cousin Oliver not come in with a semi-automatic weapon (loaded with hollow tips) to put it out of its misery - and fast. That last season had a lot of episodes that were groaners, but Cousin Oliver did more damage to the show than Ted McGinley on a bender! A brutal addition to the cast, just brutal.
As for Chachi, he didn't kill Happy Days; he just made it suck. Watch an early episode (first 2 seasons), then watch one with Chachi. The level of 'quality' tanked in a major way and anyone older than the age of 12 would find the early episodes far more enjoyable than the later ones. They even forgot about the setting - early episodes were very careful to make the setting as authentic (time and place) as possible. By the time Chachi showed up and started taking center stage, you could hardly remember that the show was supposed to take place in 1957 or so. By then it was about 1977 and seemed it on the show. Chachi NEVER looked like a 50s kid. Not even a juvenile delinquent in that era would have had feathered hair and clothes like his. They just gave up on trying by then.
The thing is, remembering how popular the show was at the time, it didn't matter that it morphed into a lowbrow howlfest. Happy Days was too popular to fail for a while. As long as the Fonz was there, it was still hugely successful. However, it did take on the aura of a kids show in those later seasons. With so little competition at the time, the producers could get away with that. If the same thing happened now (with all of the programming options that we have now), I do not think that Days would have lasted nearly as long.
And, did I mention, Chachi sucked.
I saw the Happy Days musical at TPAC here in Nashville the other night. And aside from all the musical dance numbers, the presentation told a story. A minor complaint about it: Chachi was made to seem as old as the other three guys: Richie, Ralph, and Potsie. And Potsie was actually made to seem a little younger, in comparison to Richie and Ralph. Aside from that, they gave an actual year in which the whole thing was set: 1959. The show was always kinda vague about what year it actually was, although I think Laverne and Shirley occasionally made specific references to given years on their show.
The musical also made some funny references, such as Mr. C. commenting that Chuck skipped town and hasn't been seen since, and Joanie's quip that Fonzie hadn't been the same since he jumped that shark! ;D
I think the Brady Bunch jumped the shark when Marcia's skirts began to get longer! Of course, they had nowhere else to go! I think Greg voted against Marcia being cheerleader because that would have meant that Marcia would have been wearing longer skirts! In the middle years of the Brady Bunch, even when lounging around the house, Marcia would parade around in front of her step-brothers in those micro mini-dresses! I remember at least one scene in which she walked right into her brothers' room wearing that very short dress which must have been one of her favorites, because she wore it in several episodes! She was in there looking for something, I forget what. ("Uh, Marcia, it's in that bottom drawer. You'll have to bend way over to get it!!" ;D) Could you imagine the conversation her parents had with her: "Say, Marcia, where are the pants to that pantsuit you're wearing? You're only wearing the top!" ;D
The musical also made some funny references, such as Mr. C. commenting that Chuck skipped town and hasn't been seen since, and Joanie's quip that Fonzie hadn't been the same since he jumped that shark! ;D
I think the Brady Bunch jumped the shark when Marcia's skirts began to get longer! Of course, they had nowhere else to go! I think Greg voted against Marcia being cheerleader because that would have meant that Marcia would have been wearing longer skirts! In the middle years of the Brady Bunch, even when lounging around the house, Marcia would parade around in front of her step-brothers in those micro mini-dresses! I remember at least one scene in which she walked right into her brothers' room wearing that very short dress which must have been one of her favorites, because she wore it in several episodes! She was in there looking for something, I forget what. ("Uh, Marcia, it's in that bottom drawer. You'll have to bend way over to get it!!" ;D) Could you imagine the conversation her parents had with her: "Say, Marcia, where are the pants to that pantsuit you're wearing? You're only wearing the top!" ;D
Speaking of Happy Days' time frame...I remember seeing an episode from the final season (although it could have the second-to-last), and Postie and Howard were at a Braves game. One of them (I think it was Postie) mentioned it was sad that the Braves were leaving Milwaukee. Of course, the Braves moved to Atlanta in 1966, although a Wisconsin court blocked the Braves move a year eariler, and the Braves had to honor the final year of their lease at Milwaukee County Stadium. So, the final season of Happy Days have to be set in no later than 1966.
BRNout said:Yes, thanks for that reminder!
The Brady Bunch was dying a slow death already, but may have lived one more season had Cousin Oliver not come in with a semi-automatic weapon (loaded with hollow tips) to put it out of its misery - and fast. That last season had a lot of episodes that were groaners, but Cousin Oliver did more damage to the show than Ted McGinley on a bender! A brutal addition to the cast, just brutal.
As for Chachi, he didn't kill Happy Days; he just made it suck. Watch an early episode (first 2 seasons), then watch one with Chachi. The level of 'quality' tanked in a major way and anyone older than the age of 12 would find the early episodes far more enjoyable than the later ones. They even forgot about the setting - early episodes were very careful to make the setting as authentic (time and place) as possible. By the time Chachi showed up and started taking center stage, you could hardly remember that the show was supposed to take place in 1957 or so. By then it was about 1977 and seemed it on the show. Chachi NEVER looked like a 50s kid. Not even a juvenile delinquent in that era would have had feathered hair and clothes like his. They just gave up on trying by then.
The thing is, remembering how popular the show was at the time, it didn't matter that it morphed into a lowbrow howlfest. Happy Days was too popular to fail for a while. As long as the Fonz was there, it was still hugely successful. However, it did take on the aura of a kids show in those later seasons. With so little competition at the time, the producers could get away with that. If the same thing happened now (with all of the programming options that we have now), I do not think that Days would have lasted nearly as long.
And, did I mention, Chachi sucked.
I was always irritated when Chachi did " Wa - wa - wa ".
I found it funny on an episode of Charles in Charge that Charles told Jaime " Nobody likes Chachi. He's an idiot! " LOL
ShawnHill1 said:
Then again perhaps by 1983/1984 ( Happy Days last season ), the writers were bored and running out of ideas and just threw things together without checking the history angle.
This was a BIG problem with The Lucy Show and Here's Lucy. The writers ( there were many ..and many of those were just flat out scared to death of Lucille Ball ) made a number of goofs with the scripts after Vivian Vance had left. So many in fact one could write a book on this, no wait..someone had already done that ;D
One episode had Lucy going to her college reunion...a few episodes later Lucy was a high school dropout. Lucy was working for Mr. Mooney at the bank yet other episdes showed her working at other places and her bank job wasn't mentioned at all..then she is seen again working at the bank a few episodes later. One show he had Lucy calling her son "JIMMY" rather than "Jerry". The only thing Lucille Ball cared about at this point was..well getting those guest stars.
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