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Reminder: deadline for voting for the IDMAs is Friday 2/18!

WOW - how did Energy 98 or 94.5 The Vibe get left out of those nominees? I'm sure E98 was there last year? Vibe maybe not, but isn;t it a legit station, maybe with not a massive signal, but still????? What gives?
 
I got my votes in just now,, I picked Deadmau5e and Sweidish house mafia alot,, I wanted real dance artists to win instead of the usual Rhianna and B.E.P stuff... I wish to keep my radio station votes confidential.
 
I want a real dance station to win, not KCRW. If KCRW wins again for a second year, we will know that they rigged it. It doesn't even serve them any purpose even if they do win.
 
See...THIS is why we run into so many problems in our community.

A "REAL" dance station, the whole revolution taking place with artists like Rihanna and B.E.P. stepping further in to the dance music side.

I was semi shocked that KCRW won (I was there at the IDMA's last year when they announced it). But at the same time, for the style and edginess of the electronica brand that they play, I could kinda see why the station won. Also realize, there are only VERY few stations on terrestrial here that play dance. Sure, I'd like to see one of the "usual suspects" win (C-89.5, Z-88.9, Party 105 and yeah 'KTU.). However we need more terrestrial stations like this and it can only happen so as long as we continually support ALL aspects of dance music, and YES that does mean the pop/r&b/rhythmic remixes as well. Now, if Rihanna isn't your cup o' tea, I'm not saying to go out and purchase her track but at least lets stop being condescending and "elitist" on what is dance and what isn't.

Let's also realize the Internet stations are making more of an impact each and every day. There will be a time where everyone can talk about Fusion Radio, Energy 98, Party Radio USA, B 91 in the same vain as we talk about the terrestrial stations.

As far as the Vibe not being there, I can only speculate "politics" and that's as far as I am going on that.
 
The problem with KCRW winning that award is that it's not a dance station. In fact, the station plays almost no dance now, certainly less than 5-10 years ago and before the nightly Metropolis show with Jason Bentley was discontinued 2+ years ago when Jason moved to host the Morning Becomes Eclectic show. KCRW is not a valid nominee in the dance station category.

KCRW is a hip NPR affiliate that carries a wide range of programming, from Morning Edition and All Things Considered to its flagship mid-morning show, the acclaimed Morning Becomes Eclectic, which is basically what I'll call hipster music. No dance. A late evening show and a weekend show or two play some deeper, cutting edge stuff but to connect dance with this station is beyond a stretch. It's never been a dance station, even when it played more dance and electronic than it does currently. No one in Los Angeles thinks of the station as a dance station so I don't know why WMC/IDMA thinks of it that way.

For the New York area readers, KCRW is similar to WFUV but with NPR and more news/talk.
 
I'm thinking that since the nominations are open to anyone on the Internet, the KCRW staff must have spammed the IDMA nomination site to make sure they have enough votes to get nominated, then once the ballot is released, they vote early and often for KCRW. Web polls cannot be taken seriously since there is no way to stop people from voting multiple times.
In the future they should restrict the "best dance station" nominees to stations that have at least 33% of its playlist composed of tracks that are on the Billboard Hot Dance Airplay chart.
 
Nick said:
I'm thinking that since the nominations are open to anyone on the Internet, the KCRW staff must have spammed the IDMA nomination site to make sure they have enough votes to get nominated, then once the ballot is released, they vote early and often for KCRW. Web polls cannot be taken seriously since there is no way to stop people from voting multiple times.
In the future they should restrict the "best dance station" nominees to stations that have at least 33% of its playlist composed of tracks that are on the Billboard Hot Dance Airplay chart.
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You cant restrict a station if they dont play x amount of singles from a certain chart. This is not the billboard awards and 2nd its for best US dance station. What if the station played all bootleg and underground singles?
 
Would any station be listed as a format that it is not? For example, what if Wired 96.5 is nominated for Best Country Station when the only country it plays is a few hits from Taylor Swift (it's a Rhythmic CHR)? Or what if 94.5 The Vibe was nominated for Best Public Radio Station (it's a commercial dance station)?

It just doesn't reflect the public opinion of what the best dance station is if a few people at KCRW rig the poll to have them win this award. KCRW winning this award is like an unknown person winning an election because he stuffed the ballot box. Furthermore, it does not benefit KCRW to win this award since they do not play dance (or any form of electronic) music at all anymore.

Something similar happened many years ago with a web poll. The Mets were looking for a new song for their 7th inning stretch, and they posted a web poll. A handful of people rigged it so that Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up won that poll. The Mets did play that song at the first game that season, but the people at the game booed.

I think the IDMAs should restrict the poll to ensure that a person cannot vote as many times as they can, such as by asking for a valid credit card number (but not charge it).
 
Nick said:
Would any station be listed as a format that it is not? For example, what if Wired 96.5 is nominated for Best Country Station when the only country it plays is a few hits from Taylor Swift (it's a Rhythmic CHR)? Or what if 94.5 The Vibe was nominated for Best Public Radio Station (it's a commercial dance station)?

It just doesn't reflect the public opinion of what the best dance station is if a few people at KCRW rig the poll to have them win this award. KCRW winning this award is like an unknown person winning an election because he stuffed the ballot box. Furthermore, it does not benefit KCRW to win this award since they do not play dance (or any form of electronic) music at all anymore.

Something similar happened many years ago with a web poll. The Mets were looking for a new song for their 7th inning stretch, and they posted a web poll. A handful of people rigged it so that Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up won that poll. The Mets did play that song at the first game that season, but the people at the game booed.

I think the IDMAs should restrict the poll to ensure that a person cannot vote as many times as they can, such as by asking for a valid credit card number (but not charge it).
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They track by IP and you need a valid email address that can only be used once. If you submit multiple entries it will not be counted as valid and you forfeit your vote.

That doesn't stop organizations (Radio stations, artists, record labels, etc) from getting all of their fans to vote for them once.
 
Nick said:
Would any station be listed as a format that it is not? For example, what if Wired 96.5 is nominated for Best Country Station when the only country it plays is a few hits from Taylor Swift (it's a Rhythmic CHR)? Or what if 94.5 The Vibe was nominated for Best Public Radio Station (it's a commercial dance station)?

It just doesn't reflect the public opinion of what the best dance station is if a few people at KCRW rig the poll to have them win this award. KCRW winning this award is like an unknown person winning an election because he stuffed the ballot box. Furthermore, it does not benefit KCRW to win this award since they do not play dance (or any form of electronic) music at all anymore.

Something similar happened many years ago with a web poll. The Mets were looking for a new song for their 7th inning stretch, and they posted a web poll. A handful of people rigged it so that Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up won that poll. The Mets did play that song at the first game that season, but the people at the game booed.

I think the IDMAs should restrict the poll to ensure that a person cannot vote as many times as they can, such as by asking for a valid credit card number (but not charge it).
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Thats why this system is flawed. Every station, artist, DJ and whomever was getting people to vote. So in reality it goes right along with public opinion. If KCRW can get 10,000 votes for them and thats more than any of the others, that is major of the public that vote opinion.
 
Most nominees on that list were nominated because they begged people for votes on Facebook and set up a "Get The Vote Out" type street team that hammered the ballot using Proxy servers and free email accounts such as Gmail. IDMA's are a complete joke and simply a way for Winter Music Conference to build a massive spam list for years to come.
 
Okay,do I have to be the one to say it? Who cares about a stupid IDMA award. It's insignificant to the at large public and holds no influence.It's not like it's a Grammy that can make a star out of an unknown such as Esperanza Spalding.The whole Winter Music Conference is just an excuse for poor slobs up North to come down and party in Miami in March.Which is why I rather go to the Ultra Music Festival... ;)
 
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